OL Or Stud Rb? When Does A Rb Shine?

[kskboys]

Trade down in the 1st round. Get a 4th round pick. Use that 4th round pick on this ex-WR turned RB...

SMU: Brashard Smith. 5'10", 196 lbs, 4.41 40 speed.



Best burst, excellent cutting ability, quickness and very good speed out of this upcoming 2025 Draft.

Then why would he last til the 4th?

 

[Cmac]

Maybe an OL needs to be on the draft list.......

 

[big dog cowboy]

This team needs to fire Solari. Should have last year.

 

[Risen Star]

"Would Derrick Henry do better than Rico Dowdle?"

That's why I love this place. The thought provoking questions.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Then why would he last til the 4th?

Because he is an ex WR turned RB who has low miles playing as a RB. Yet, he displays very good potential as a RB. Very loose hips (your favorite trait), excellent cut back ability, excellent burst, excellent twisting while pumping legs, plus very good speed ability to hit the hole quickly or be patient as the hole opens up. He can run both inside and outside, plus can squeeze through the tightest holes to get past the line of scrimmage and past the LBs. Has the potential to take it to the house. Exactly what we need.

 

[kskboys]

Because he is an ex WR turned RB who has low miles playing as a RB. Yet, he displays very good potential as a RB. Very loose hips (your favorite trait), excellent cut back ability, excellent burst, excellent twisting while pumping legs, plus very good speed ability to hit the hole quickly or be patient as the hole opens up. He can run both inside and outside, plus can squeeze through the tightest holes to get past the line of scrimmage and past the LBs. Has the potential to take it to the house. Exactly what we need.

Sounds like a great prospect!!! Might go earlier, though.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Sounds like a great prospect!!! Might go earlier, though.

Hey, K, watching Brashard Smith's tapes, his running style reminds me of Tony Pollard.

 

[blueblood70]

There’s no running back in the NFL that’s ever done it by themselves and before people say Barry did it let’s not discredit Lomas brown who made 5 all pro teams blocking for Barry

And all your points are right….especially about Henry

He would’ve done better than Rico here but by how much is the question? Baltimore preaches run run run run and Lamar isn’t chucking it 50 times

correct DH would have added how many wins to this season given all the facts 8mil for what? how did CMC help the 9ers? IMHO would not have been great fit not reading the OP post at all BUT the issue was NOT drafting a RB..thta needs to be remedied. but the way rico was used the first 10 games is proof DH could have made much of an impact here.
a young pair of legs on rookie deal would have been better fit and hope the FO sees this error and remedies it..

this has happened before 2015 went with Mcfaden and rbbc FO saw the error and immediately corrected it..weve always had top back and im sure we will get one this coming off season..if not welp. we can talk about it than.

 

[blueblood70]

You lost me with Rico being a legit starting RB. He should be the backup to a RB with better speed and burst.

disagree he should have been used as the normal; RB and one with speed like pre injury pollard comes in with speed and burst behind him.. worry about carries the way the game dictates, but naming a RB1 isn't the issue its how they are utilized game to game.. not always team and the d that the fast back would have been the best option, then hammer is needed.2023 MM made that mistake should have used Rico in T{Ps role and left TP in his old role..

Ironic what's KC record using Hunt as starter most of the season? he and Rico are the same at this point.. they kept winning. This is MM issue not necessarily the RB itself. scheme and play calling matter....could have used Turpin more for scat back.. that fact or [picked up one off anther PS..

This by far was more a problem with lack of commitment to the run game I watched from day one Kareem hunt got picked up off the street not off another team not off another practice squad the man was just sitting there immediately was handed the ball 20 * a game why are wonderful offensive coordinator was still only given Rico 10 carries a game at most couldn't figure out what back to use it was in shambles using regular season games for something you should've worked out in training camp I'm not saying we couldn't use a better back or a faster back I'm saying in the same situation it wasn't as successful as it could have been because of Mike McCarthy he was sad right now look at some of those carries that they were giving lamb now they're giving Turpin he nearly had a shoe string of his own player tripping him from taking a ball from the backfield as a running back and taking it to the house did you not see that against the eagles he could do those things minimally if you needed it he just wasn't there are many things you could do to get the run game working with more motion and misdirection better blocking this season's over but I'm telling you right now Rico could have been a much better starting running back had he been utilized from game one properly he already proved that the man could have had 12 to 1300 yards he doesn't do anything special but I'm looking over there at the Atlanta Falcons everyone's praising one of my boys from my Longhorns old days and Robinson and like he's something special he didn't do anything in the last game in the past game his longest run was 13 yards and they're praising this dude was picked top five is he better than Rico yeah but it proves if you're not at the right place and they're not getting the ball properly you're never gonna succeed this is a scheme problem more than it was the running back problem if he was utilized properly last year I'm telling you Rico should have been getting Tony pollard's carries and vice versa I don't think zeke would have been back I don't think they would've saw problem is being as bad and Jerry getting desperate enough to bring zeke back for short yardage this was Mike McCartney S offense making it appear that way..

 

[doomsday9084]

1. The QB has to play from under center more. Playing from the gun destroys the run game as the only option is a delayed draw.
2. Anyone here old enough to remember how much worse the Cowboy's line looked when they blocked for Emmitt's back up instead of Emmitt?

Get a stud all around RB that can make people miss, break tackles and can turn 8 yard runs in to 80 yard runs with speed. You will be surprised how much better Dak and the line look.

 

[rambo2]

Does a stud RB do it all without a great OL or does a great OL make a average RB look good?

Would Derrick Henry have done better than Rico Dowdle? For sure, because he is a stud RB. Rico is a quality backup, a complimentary back, but is not impact player. He has no runs over 25 yards. A stud sizzling RB would make this Cowboys team much better.

In 1988, a terrible Cowboys team, Herschel walker led the NFC in rushing. That is because a young Herschel transcended any sub-par OL. He was an elite RB.

When Jimmy Johnson took over in 1989, he asked his new OL coach to evaluate his inherited OL. Tony Wise said that Mark Tuinei and Nate Newton were talented, but the technique used was bad, that RT Kevin Gogan was too slow to start at RT ( he did start on one winning Super Bowl Cowboy team at guard and left as a free agent for very good career with Raiders), that center Tom Rafferty was overwhelmed at center. Yet with all these weaknesses, Herschel led the NFC in rushing with over 1500 yards in a full 16 game schedule with 50 pass catches.

The Boys do not need all high draft picks to establish a great OL. Nate Newton and Mark Tuinei were both free agents, Stepnoski and Erik Williams were 3rd rounders; Larry Allen was a 2nd rounder. They need great coaching and time to develop. Doug Free as a 4th rounder who became a solid starter for many years, but he did not start in his first two years while he developed. Perhaps the current RT would make a very good guard, Guyton goes to RT, and Asim Richards in his 3rd year starts on the left side.

A thorough re-evaluation of the BOY's OL is necessary.

Perhaps a back with breakaway speed who can come up with some big impact plays, as opposed to the grind it out Dowdle, will make the OL better, open more space for Ferguson and the Cowboys' receivers.

I saw how the 1976 Cowboys were missing an impact RB. Adding Tony Dorsett dramatically changed their offense. He was a feared home run hitter who hit homers. Today's Cowboy team has one home run hitter, in Lamb. Dowdle is a singles hitter. Would Dak have had a great rookie season without a young Zeke?

With all of the above said, there is one player in the draft who can provide instant stud offense as a rookie, who is superb at breaking tackles, yards after contact, with breakaway speed, durable, and light years above any other impact offensive player. He is built like Emmitt Smith with far greater speed. He comes from the potato state program the Boys are enamored with, Ashton Jeanty.

Now there will be a team that may trade above our slot to grab him just to rub it in that the Boys are in a steep decline, so all the talk of the draft should be on stud defensive linemen and talk that good RB's can be had in later rounds.

The rebuilding of this team starts with a sizzling, impact offensive threat who will make our less than top end QB not need to be the hero. Get the OL retrained into the tactics employed by the great 92-95 teams.

If Jeanty is healthy and available when the Cowboys are on the board, he would be bpa and would make sense. He might be a dominant runner for a few years and would improve the team.

 

[Sheepherder]

They go hand in hand. A good OLine makes the life of a RB easy. But the RB needs to be competent enough to use his good OLine. Just as a OC needs to know what sort of OLine he has and how to best maximize the running game and how to work around a bad or injured line if he needs to.

You guys might remember when Emmitt Smith came in as a rookie. It was almost like he added life to their oline. By far, the biggest playmaker they had at that time. Nate Newton talks about that.

 

[rambo2]

1. The QB has to play from under center more. Playing from the gun destroys the run game as the only option is a delayed draw.
2. Anyone here old enough to remember how much worse the Cowboy's line looked when they blocked for Emmitt's back up instead of Emmitt?

Get a stud all around RB that can make people miss, break tackles and can turn 8 yard runs in to 80 yard runs with speed. You will be surprised how much better Dak and the line look.

1. Jeanty
2. Hampton
3. Johnson

Jeanty would have to be taken around pick 11. Hampton late 1st or early 2nd. Johnson might be available at Cowboys 2nd round pick. That's it. The Cowboys better hit on the dominant runner. They need a dominant runner to be able to win.

 

[Johannes44]

You guys might remember when Emmitt Smith came in as a rookie. It was almost like he added life to their oline. By far, the biggest playmaker they had at that time. Nate Newton talks about that.

I don't diminish what Emmitt meant or the impact he had. Rather I'm talking about the symbiotic relationship between the RB and the OL. Having a terrible OL will have an effect on the running game no matter how talented a runner you have back there. It also increases wear and tear on the running. Similarly bad running backs cannot take full advantage no matter how good a line they have.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Does a stud RB do it all without a great OL or does a great OL make a average RB look good?

Would Derrick Henry have done better than Rico Dowdle? For sure, because he is a stud RB. Rico is a quality backup, a complimentary back, but is not impact player. He has no runs over 25 yards. A stud sizzling RB would make this Cowboys team much better.

In 1988, a terrible Cowboys team, Herschel walker led the NFC in rushing. That is because a young Herschel transcended any sub-par OL. He was an elite RB.

When Jimmy Johnson took over in 1989, he asked his new OL coach to evaluate his inherited OL. Tony Wise said that Mark Tuinei and Nate Newton were talented, but the technique used was bad, that RT Kevin Gogan was too slow to start at RT ( he did start on one winning Super Bowl Cowboy team at guard and left as a free agent for very good career with Raiders), that center Tom Rafferty was overwhelmed at center. Yet with all these weaknesses, Herschel led the NFC in rushing with over 1500 yards in a full 16 game schedule with 50 pass catches.

The Boys do not need all high draft picks to establish a great OL. Nate Newton and Mark Tuinei were both free agents, Stepnoski and Erik Williams were 3rd rounders; Larry Allen was a 2nd rounder. They need great coaching and time to develop. Doug Free as a 4th rounder who became a solid starter for many years, but he did not start in his first two years while he developed. Perhaps the current RT would make a very good guard, Guyton goes to RT, and Asim Richards in his 3rd year starts on the left side.

A thorough re-evaluation of the BOY's OL is necessary.

Perhaps a back with breakaway speed who can come up with some big impact plays, as opposed to the grind it out Dowdle, will make the OL better, open more space for Ferguson and the Cowboys' receivers.

I saw how the 1976 Cowboys were missing an impact RB. Adding Tony Dorsett dramatically changed their offense. He was a feared home run hitter who hit homers. Today's Cowboy team has one home run hitter, in Lamb. Dowdle is a singles hitter. Would Dak have had a great rookie season without a young Zeke?

With all of the above said, there is one player in the draft who can provide instant stud offense as a rookie, who is superb at breaking tackles, yards after contact, with breakaway speed, durable, and light years above any other impact offensive player. He is built like Emmitt Smith with far greater speed. He comes from the potato state program the Boys are enamored with, Ashton Jeanty.

Now there will be a team that may trade above our slot to grab him just to rub it in that the Boys are in a steep decline, so all the talk of the draft should be on stud defensive linemen and talk that good RB's can be had in later rounds.

The rebuilding of this team starts with a sizzling, impact offensive threat who will make our less than top end QB not need to be the hero. Get the OL retrained into the tactics employed by the great 92-95 teams.

The Falcons drafted the best RB prospect to come out of the draft since Saquon Barkley.

Did the Falcons become a "sizzling offense"?

And speaking of Saquon, was drafting him a good choice by the Giants? He's one of the best RB prospects during the draft process of all time. Was he a good use of a Top 10 pick for that Giants organization?

All things to think about

 

[Thomas82]

1. The QB has to play from under center more. Playing from the gun destroys the run game as the only option is a delayed draw.
2. Anyone here old enough to remember how much worse the Cowboy's line looked when they blocked for Emmitt's back up instead of Emmitt?

Get a stud all around RB that can make people miss, break tackles and can turn 8 yard runs in to 80 yard runs with speed. You will be surprised how much better Dak and the line look.

I definitely remember how drastically different the Cowboys O-line looked without Emmitt. It was a night and day difference.

 

[Big D]

Give me the big boys every time. A good offensive line can make a poor/average running back look good to great. A Great RB does not do the same.

 

[SFloridaCowboy]

1. The QB has to play from under center more. Playing from the gun destroys the run game as the only option is a delayed draw.
2. Anyone here old enough to remember how much worse the Cowboy's line looked when they blocked for Emmitt's back up instead of Emmitt?

Get a stud all around RB that can make people miss, break tackles and can turn 8 yard runs in to 80 yard runs with speed. You will be surprised how much better Dak and the line look.

Amen, Ashton Jeanty!!

 

[SFloridaCowboy]

Give me the big boys every time. A good offensive line can make a poor/average running back look good to great. A Great RB does not do the same.

A speedy RB who can take it to the house, who can run off large chunks of yards will make the team better. Dak cannot be entrusted to win games himself.

 

[jujoboys]

Look no further than Saquon Barkley. He was good for the Giants, but never great. Look at how many yards before contact Barkley has this year. I read it was over 1400 yards before yesterdays game and he had a lot of room to run yesterday too.

Rico is not a featured RB. He lacks the speed, quickness and vision to be that kind of back. I see every game a few plays where Rico, if he had more quickness or speed, could evade the tackler and doesn't. But I have said repeatedly, even Henry or Barkley could not succeed behind the Cowboys offensive line.

For me, it is the offensive line - and WRs and TEs who can block. Once you have that, a 4th round draft pick can be more than good enough in the backfield. And btw, having a top offensive line also helps your QB. Look at the two Eagles backups yesterday. They looked so much better than Rush. The Cowboys did not sack either one of them.

Saquon played with a completely terrible OLine and average to below average QB play his entire time with the Giants. But to say he was never great in NY is wrong. He had 2,028 yards from scrimmage in 2018 and 1,650 yards from scrimmage in 2022. Daniel Jones should be calling Saquon and thinking him every day for helping him get that $40 million a year contract. Saquon basically carries the Giants to the playoffs that year and DJ gets rewarded a big contract in return. Saquon doesn’t get a lot of credit for his time with the Giants because the rest of the team was so terrible