OMG!, Felix Jones only 8 reps

[iceberg]

And some people way overvalue Big slow WR's

i'd overvalue old CB's but someone else has that covered.

 

[Sitting Bull]

Four TWO SEVEN? Amazing.

 

[Da Hammer]

The Felix Jones bandwagon is about to get very light.

ive been mostly against drafting jones. he seems to be speed and that is all. basically a higher profile version of tyson thompson with better moves.

 

[Hong2221]

Ray Rice!!!!!!!!!!!!! With His 4.44

 

[Manwiththeplan]

8 reps is dissappointing, but he'll try again at his pro day. If he can't get atleast 15, then'll be worried. But to be honest I'd put more stock in his 10/20 yard dash and short shuttle numbers than anything.

 

[TheCount]

He's not helping himself so far at the combine.

 

[CATCH17]

Hes not a finished product though.

I dont care how well these guys run jump and swim coming out of college.

I care about how they produced.

This kid produced big, with limited carries, in the best defensive conference in the country.

He has a high ceiling and just because he benches 225 8 times today doesnt mean he will be doing that this time next year or a year after.

To me this just shows he has a lot more room to grow and has the skills to do it.

Plus if he can bench 225 8 times hes benching around 300 for his total max.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I was shocked to see him only get 8. That is just pathetic. I'm just now (in the last year) getting heavily into weight training, for the first time in my life (When I was in high school and stuff and played football i hated lifting weights so I never did it) and I can probably get 225, at this point, 3 or 4 times and as I've said I've only been weight training for a year now.

That is just pathetic.

 

[Hoofbite]

If Emmitt had been judged by the measurables, I doubt he would have even been a first round pick.

Can he play or can't he play?

When will people quit using Emmitt Smith as some sort of crutch for weaker, slower, dumber (or whatever other shortcomings) players.

Yes, we all know that Emmitt was the exception. In fact, he may be the exception to such an extent that you won't see another one.

Every year whenever some player at any position comes out and bombs on some workouts, Emmitt is always brought up.

Its obvious that measurements are not the whole story. However, its also obvious that these measurements are important, otherwise they wouldn't even have the combine. So to see a player show up and throw up something like 8 reps on the bench is just pitiful.

And yes, Felix can play. He can play at the college level. How well will he be able to play at the pro level remains to be seen. But given the workouts of other guys in comparison to his. No way in Hell is he worth a 1st round pick.

 

[Eddie]

Many college trainers don't emphasize the bench press as a strength building exercise. Most emphasize squats, dead lifts, and the clean-and-jerk.

Still, all college prospects should spend time on their bench press prior to the combine. Considering there's so much riding on the number, they should know better.

 

[gbrittain]

When will people quit using Emmitt Smith as some sort of crutch for weaker, slower, dumber (or whatever other shortcomings) players.

Yes, we all know that Emmitt was the exception. In fact, he may be the exception to such an extent that you won't see another one.

Every year whenever some player at any position comes out and bombs on some workouts, Emmitt is always brought up.

Its obvious that measurements are not the whole story. However, its also obvious that these measurements are important, otherwise they wouldn't even have the combine. So to see a player show up and throw up something like 8 reps on the bench is just pitiful.

And yes, Felix can play. He can play at the college level. How well will he be able to play at the pro level remains to be seen. But given the workouts of other guys in comparison to his. No way in Hell is he worth a 1st round pick.

Well, I guess people will stop using Emmitt as an example as soon as there are no longer any Mike Mamula's, Tony Mandarich, Ryan Leaf, Blair Thomas, and Joey Harrington's world as well.

There is nothing wrong with being top rated in terms of measurables, but neither is it the end of the world if you are not.

I am not enamored with the combine. Nobody would be impressed with Jerry Rice's speed at combine if he were there today as a young man. How many times did you ever see Jerry Rice get caught from behind?

 

[Alexander]

Still, all college prospects should spend time on their bench press prior to the combine. Considering there's so much riding on the number, they should know better.

That is the only criticism of Jones that anyone should be making.

The bench doesn't have translation to being an effective running back. The fact he did 8 or 80 shouldn't change anyone's impressions of whether or not he can play the position.

It should call into question his ability to prepare and how seriously he takes preparation. But this talk about how he cannot play because he did seven less repetitions than the average is completely off base.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Well, I guess people will stop using Emmitt as an example as soon as there are no longer any Mike Mamula's, Tony Mandarich, Ryan Leaf, Blair Thomas, and Joey Harrington's world as well.

There is nothing wrong with being top rated in terms of measurables, but neither is it the end of the world if you are not.

I am not enamored with the combine. Nobody would be impressed with Jerry Rice's speed at combine if he were there today as a young man. How many times did you ever see Jerry Rice get caught from behind?

JMO, Joey Harrington and Ryan Leaf are a different case than the work out wonders. Harrington was a productive college player, who lacked ideal measurables (arm strength) who turned out to be a bust. Leaf was just an immature kid who didn't know how to be a proffesional (If I were a GM I would never take a junior QB in the top 5 unless they had about 28 or so starts).

 

[Eddie]

That is the only criticism of Jones that anyone should be making.

The bench doesn't have translation to being an effective running back. The fact he did 8 or 80 shouldn't change anyone's impressions of whether or not he can play the position.

It should call into question his ability to prepare and how seriously he takes preparation. But this talk about how he cannot play because he did seven less repetitions than the average is completely off base.

I agree. The bench press isn't an accurate measure of a RB's abilities.

But knowing how much rides on that number, he really should have prepared himself better.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Yeah I'm not trying to say he can't play or anything. I don't know that this will, or won't, hurt him in the pros in terms of being a good runner I'm just surprised that he was only able to get it 8 times.

 

[speedkilz88]

It should definitely raise flags about his commitment to offseason workouts.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

8 reps says a whole lot about his preparation as well as his strength.

Any NFL LB blitzing would go right through him like crap through a goose!

PATTON! great movie

kick him in the ***, shoot him in the belly

 

[Kangaroo]

Felix Jones also ran a 4.47 as his fastest time (he is going to drop in the draft)

McFadden ran a 4.33 but Chris Jones ran a blistering 4.24 and he looked like he was strolling in the park with that time.

If you want speed at the RB position Chris Jones was the fastest guy out there in the 40 but to me the best stat for RB IMO is the shuttle drill and 3 cone drill because they show the burst and agility better than the 40 and you need a rb that can burst to the hole

 

[Angus]

The Pro Football Weekly take on Felix Jones in the article “Sidekick Label Not Easy to Shed”:

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/Scouting+Combine/2008/parr022308.htm

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Jones' biggest weakness is his perceived lack of durability. The PFW scouting report says he lacks strength, bounces the ball outside too often and needs to become a better blocker. It may explain why the 5-foot-10, 207-pound back will participate in the running drills at the Combine workout, but not the lifting.

 

[ctrous25]

8 reps is pathetic. u dont need 30 reps, but nfl isnt college.

its horrible