Omg!!!! I Finally Saw Youtube Footage Of Patrick Peterson!!!!

[Hostile]

I like the kid, but I don't. Give me Dez, please, thank you.

We've already got Dez.

Never turn down depth and talent.

 

[YosemiteSam]

We've already got Dez.

Never turn down depth and talent.

I meant as a returner. No doubt I would take the kid for the team.

 

[jterrell]

I agree we wont be trading up this yr, but in 1991 we did trade up to the #1 spot and took Russell Maryland.

you are correct. we traded off ron francis and eugene lockhart.

i'd guess that's why we haven't done so again. when rocket wouldn't agree to our terms we took a fairly pedestrian russell maryland at 1 overall. and of course because we havent had the entire vikings draft to work with

i believe the past 15 years indicate fairly heavily that we wouldn't move up in r1 from 9 and are far more likely to move down.

 

[Idgit]

I see more Jammer and less Woodson with the Peterson highlights. I also don't think there's any chance the consensus best CB in the draft slips to 9. Slotting the picks, there are definitely ways it can happen, but the reality is, on draft day, CBs are in high demand.

I'd rather spend high picks on the trenches, anyway.

 

[CCBoy]

I see more Jammer and less Woodson with the Peterson highlights. I also don't think there's any chance the consensus best CB in the draft slips to 9. Slotting the picks, there are definitely ways it can happen, but the reality is, on draft day, CBs are in high demand.

I'd rather spend high picks on the trenches, anyway.

I agree here, Idgit...as I'm always rooting for a 'big ugglies' draft. Especially now. I'd take a DE, NT, and OT/G/C in the first three picks without looking back and turning into stone. They don't even have to be in that order.

 

[JBS]

I see more Jammer and less Woodson with the Peterson highlights. I also don't think there's any chance the consensus best CB in the draft slips to 9. Slotting the picks, there are definitely ways it can happen, but the reality is, on draft day, CBs are in high demand.

I'd rather spend high picks on the trenches, anyway.

This is completely erroneous. First and foremost, Peterson is not the consensus #1 CB in the draft.

More importantly, CBs come draft day are not in high demand, not relatively speaking to top 5-10 draft picks.

 

[CCBoy]

This is completely erroneous. First and foremost, Peterson is not the consensus #1 CB in the draft.

More importantly, CBs come draft day are not in high demand, not relatively speaking to top 5-10 draft picks.

History wise, you are correct, sir. They had previously tended to be mid-first to lower. When we took Terrence Newman, it was something of a departure back then. Today, veterans experienced, are the money grabbers.

 

[jterrell]

This is completely erroneous. First and foremost, Peterson is not the consensus #1 CB in the draft.

More importantly, CBs come draft day are not in high demand, not relatively speaking to top 5-10 draft picks.

PP is the consensus #1 CB and DB.
If a site has someone else then you should delete that site.

This is not a great DB draft by any means but PP is easily the top choice there going into the draft.


historically DBs make up a low percentage of 1st round picks but not in the last 10 years. recently they have been going high. only really bad db classes have seen a lack of r1 guys. last season we had haden at 7 and berry at 5. there were 5 more dbs for a total of 7 out of 32 players in r1.

the best overall athletes in this draft are bowers, fairley, peterson and miller.

rumors are both fairely and bowers have had questionable interviews and soem off field concerns. miller is a 4-3 OLB who played OLB in a 3-4 in college.

peterson will go top 3 unless someone goes bananas and drafts a mediocre qb very high and even then he'll go top 5.

 

[JBS]

You are correct on everything JT, other than Peterson being the consensus #1 Cb in this draft. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Prince is drafted ahead of Peterson. I would agree that the majority believe PP is the #1 cb but I wouldn't say it's a consensus.

 

[Texan_Eph89]

You are correct on everything JT, other than Peterson being the consensus #1 Cb in this draft. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Prince is drafted ahead of Peterson. I would agree that the majority believe PP is the #1 cb but I wouldn't say it's a consensus.

OMG, let that be the case!!!

 

[jterrell]

You are correct on everything JT, other than Peterson being the consensus #1 Cb in this draft. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Prince is drafted ahead of Peterson. I would agree that the majority believe PP is the #1 cb but I wouldn't say it's a consensus.

Do you have examples of people placing Prince higher?

I seriously haven't seen any.

I have seen people push PP to as low as 7 but I haven't seen a single instance where someone rated him below Prince.

I am not arguing Prince is a lock to be a worse pro but I would argue he is a lock to be drafted after PP.

I would take PP first overall if I had to choose one guy. He could be an Ed Reed type FS or a solid CB and is a stellar return guy if anyone is crazy enough to use him there.

CBSSports and NFLdraftexchange rate PP 1 overall and Prince 7 overall.
Scott Wright has PP 2 and Prince 6.
Walter Football has PP rated top 4 and 1 CB, Prince top 10 and 2 at CB.

I just don't see the examples of guys having questions to whom is the top overall corner.

 

[JBS]

Scott Wright was actually where i heard it from. I will try and see if i can find the proof, but according to him, some teams had prince rated above Peterson.

 

[JBS]

http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44399

It was actually Shane Hallam from draftcountdown who said it and not Scott. Shane works hand in hand with Scott. Scott did say prince would battle Peterson for the #1 db spot which implies that they are closer than you are making it out to be.

I also just tweeted Shane, I specifically asked him what the chances were that Prince gets drafted before Peterson and he replied and said "as of right now 50/50"

 

[Idgit]

Do you have examples of people placing Prince higher?

I seriously haven't seen any.

I have seen people push PP to as low as 7 but I haven't seen a single instance where someone rated him below Prince.

I am not arguing Prince is a lock to be a worse pro but I would argue he is a lock to be drafted after PP.

I would take PP first overall if I had to choose one guy. He could be an Ed Reed type FS or a solid CB and is a stellar return guy if anyone is crazy enough to use him there.

CBSSports and NFLdraftexchange rate PP 1 overall and Prince 7 overall.
Scott Wright has PP 2 and Prince 6.
Walter Football has PP rated top 4 and 1 CB, Prince top 10 and 2 at CB.

I just don't see the examples of guys having questions to whom is the top overall corner.

PP is the overwhelming consensus #1 DB right now.

 

[romo_19_55]

I know most Zoners don't think Jerrah would 'move up' to pick PP and the 'smart money' says draft OT, NT, and OG in the first 3rds to rebuild our OL (since we last WON 3 Rings with the BEST OL in the NFL during the Emmitt SMith years). However, Jerrah did SAY (just like last year) recently that he WANTS an IMPACT player with his first draft pick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That being said, who ELSE would be an IMPACT player for the Cowboys that could play at a very high level for the next 9-10yrs?????? I don't see anyone else 'dropping' to us except for Quinn or Von Miller. Jerrah may have to 'move up' to grab PP if he drops into picks 5-8. Even with giving up a 1st and 3rd for PP, we'd still end up with PP in Rd 1, BPA OL (OT or OG) in the Rd 3, a mammoth NT in Rd 4 or signed via Free Agency, and the BPA Free Safety in Rd 5 or signed via Free Agency. Rounds 6 and 7 could be a backup FULLBACK or OL.

My GUT tells me that Jerrah is looking at either Patrick Peterson (who could be an All-Star CB for years and return PUNTS like Antonio Cromartie) or Robert Quinn (who could be a terror at rushing the QB and rotate with Spencer and/or Ware and provide DEPTH in case of injury to Ware) or Von Miller (who's also excellent at QB pressures; although smaller than Quinn, he's still very young and could put on weight).

 

[Hostile]

I know most Zoners don't think Jerrah would 'move up' to pick PP and the 'smart money' says draft OT, NT, and OG in the first 3rds to rebuild our OL (since we last WON 3 Rings with the BEST OL in the NFL during the Emmitt SMith years). However, Jerrah did SAY (just like last year) recently that he WANTS an IMPACT player with his first draft pick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That being said, who ELSE would be an IMPACT player for the Cowboys that could play at a very high level for the next 9-10yrs?????? I don't see anyone else 'dropping' to us except for Quinn or Von Miller. Jerrah may have to 'move up' to grab PP if he drops into picks 5-8. Even with giving up a 1st and 3rd for PP, we'd still end up with PP in Rd 1, BPA OL (OT or OG) in the Rd 3, a mammoth NT in Rd 4 or signed via Free Agency, and the BPA Free Safety in Rd 5 or signed via Free Agency. Rounds 6 and 7 could be a backup FULLBACK or OL.

My GUT tells me that Jerrah is looking at either Patrick Peterson (who could be an All-Star CB for years and return PUNTS like Antonio Cromartie) or Robert Quinn (who could be a terror at rushing the QB and rotate with Spencer and/or Ware and provide DEPTH in case of injury to Ware) or Von Miller (who's also excellent at QB pressures; although smaller than Quinn, he's still very young and could put on weight).

I rarely respond to posts that call him Jerrah or Jerruh, but this is right on the money in every way.

Post more often.