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Nothing that we will do in FA should impact us drafting a QB this year. So we add Colt McCoy or someone roughly equivalent that doesn't lessen the need for a QB really. It just provides you with someone who might be a mildly competent bridge between Romo and a rookie.

And I agree that I doubt they go Buckner for the same reason I doubt they go Bosa. I don't think they draft someone who's likely a SDE at 4.

They may see him as a Calais Campbell type..a guy who can move through all 4 DL spots, similar to how they tried to move Hardy around. If Hardy is re-signed, i think that would all but eliminate Buckner and Bosa.
 

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Wentz

or trade down
 
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I don't really see any of them making a big impact. They might as well go wentz if they grade him out well.
 

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If my scouts tell me Wentz can be a franchise QB, it should be Wentz without question.

Given Romos health and age this should not even be a debate


I'm with you but Dallas probably won't be.

I think we will try to load up on defense this offseason and we'll need corners after we cut Carr.

We have Jones and Scandrick as of now... So Mo walks, Carr is cut, so who does that leave in our secondary?

A FA signing or 2 is a must imo and I think Dallas caps it with Jalen Ramsey as our #1 pick.


Ramsey is definitely the better short term pick to try and win a Superbowl in the Romo era but from everything we hear about Wentz is that he is just as dedicated to football off the field as he is on it. All signs point to him being a franchise QB.
 

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Wentz or trade down.

I think the best value is trading down if we are set on not taking a QB. I just don't see many "can't miss" future all pros to take with that 4 pick.

Trade down till the middle, take Lynch or Zeke and pick up an extra second or a first next year is where it is.

So you just don't see any great prospects so we should trade down to teams offering 1s and 2s for those same not so great prospects?
 

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If my scouts tell me Wentz can be a franchise QB, it should be Wentz without question.

Given Romos health and age this should not even be a debate

If the player could play OMGRIGHTNOW!! it wouldn't be a debate.

There's a correlation between the these QBs aren't any good and the draft for need crowd.

Flush it all. Then wash your hands.
 

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So you just don't see any great prospects so we should trade down to teams offering 1s and 2s for those same not so great prospects?


I don't think teams will be eager to trade up unless they want a QB.

Bosa & Jack won't be guys that I think teams will want to move up for. Teams may want to move up for Ramsey, and Goff/Wentz.

I think trading down is a great option for Dallas if they don't want a QB. Ramsey is a elite talent but do you want to take a DB with your first pick...
 

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Dallas is on the clock and these players are still available, who do you pick

Wentz
Bosa
Jack
Ramsey
Buckner

Ramsey.

The d-line is pretty good, even without Hardy coming back. The secondary -- safeties, in particular -- is gawd-awful; Ramsey would be in instant upgrade.

Edit: I did not see Wentz. Hence, I pick Wentz.
 

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So you just don't see any great prospects so we should trade down to teams offering 1s and 2s for those same not so great prospects?

Well it depends, if a team is really in love with Goff, Wentz or any other top 5 pick, that pick may be more valuable. My opinion is not the opinion of the Cowboys or any other team that may or may not want a top 5 pick this year. If I was the GM, I would see the most value in taking Wentz or Goff but if my scouts do not feel they are worth the fourth pick, it would be the most value to trade down.
 

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Well it depends, if a team is really in love with Goff, Wentz or any other top 5 pick, that pick may be more valuable. My opinion is not the opinion of the Cowboys or any other team that may or may not want a top 5 pick this year. If I was the GM, I would see the most value in taking Wentz or Goff but if my scouts do not feel they are worth the fourth pick, it would be the most value to trade down.

But you are assuming the Cowboys will have no lack of options in trading down to teams offering 1s and 2s. Despite your belief there are no great prospects at the top.

Trade down is like the gag reflex for fans. Every year you read it. Rarely is there a lot of thought behind it.
 

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But you are assuming the Cowboys will have no lack of options in trading down to teams offering 1s and 2s. Despite your belief there are no great prospects at the top.

Trade down is like the gag reflex for fans. Every year you read it. Rarely is there a lot of thought behind it.

My assumptions means nothing. My opinion is not the opinion of the Cowboys or the teams below the Cowboys. The Eagles could grade Ramsey as having the potential to be the best DB in NFL history. The 49ers could grade Wentz as the next Peyton Manning. We don't know these things, I am simply a fan stating an opinion that if we could trade down and pick up an extra pick, that would be the best value.

We do know Jerry Jones has a history of being active in the first round, even though he hasn't in the last two years. We don't have far to trade up so I would say there is a fair chance, based on his history, that Jerry would at least be open to trading down if we get good value.
 

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My assumptions means nothing. My opinion is not the opinion of the Cowboys or the teams below the Cowboys. The Eagles could grade Ramsey as having the potential to be the best DB in NFL history. The 49ers could grade Wentz as the next Peyton Manning. We don't know these things, I am simply a fan stating an opinion that if we could trade down and pick up an extra pick, that would be the best value.

We do know Jerry Jones has a history of being active in the first round, even though he hasn't in the last two years. We don't have far to trade up so I would say there is a fair chance, based on his history, that Jerry would at least be open to trading down if we get good value.

Jerry's reputation of trading is actually exaggerated if you study the history. He also loves to draft Razorbacks. That's BS too.

I'm just saying, you telling us you don't think there any great prospects at the top so the Cowboys should trade down to a team offering a bounty for one of these not so great prospects might not be well thought out.
 

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Jerry's reputation of trading is actually exaggerated if you study the history. He also loves to draft Razorbacks. That's BS too.

I'm just saying, you telling us you don't think there any great prospects at the top so the Cowboys should trade down to a team offering a bounty for one of these not so great prospects might not be well thought out.

Bogus. I am not looking through all of the drafts but by just judging Wikipedia, we have traded our first round pick under Jerry probably 40 percent of the time.
 

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Bogus. I am not looking through all of the drafts but by just judging Wikipedia, we have traded our first round pick under Jerry probably 40 percent of the time.

Even if that's correct, and I'm not looking it up, he's more likely not to trade the pick.

So we have a guy more likely to not trade his pick that should trade it because there aren't any elite prospects at the top to a team that will covet one of those players.

I don't know how you can think the top of the draft is weak but the trade market will be strong for those picks.
 

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Even if that's correct, and I'm not looking it up, he's more likely not to trade the pick.

So we have a guy more likely to not trade his pick that should trade it because there aren't any elite prospects at the top to a team that will covet one of those players.

I don't know how you can think the top of the draft is weak but the trade market will be strong for those picks.

Because I am a fan, not a scout. I am hoping another team's scouts and falls in love with a player that will open an opportunity for us to trade down. If we don't, I don't care as long as we get an impact player.

A couple months ago, I was pretty against taking a QB but now I am open to the idea. If not, a trade down may be the best option (of course, if there is even an opportunity to trade down).
 
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