on the hiring of assistants before HC

[dbair1967]

alot of you are going off the deep end, assuming the worst and that "Jones is forcing coaches on a new HC" etc etc

1) if you will remember back to earlier in the season, Jones himself said the reason some of the current assistants (specifically Zimmer) had not received contract extensions was because in the event Parcells wasnt the HC any longer, JONES wanted the new HC to be able to pick his own people

2) its almost February, every other HC opening has been filled and alot, if not most of those spots on those staffs have been filled...teams out of the playoffs have been adjusting their staffs too...the fact of the matter is it was going to be awfully hard for ANY new HC to hire a complete staff himself...in the case of Garrett (assuming he isnt the HC) Jones probably saw one of the last talented offensive guys out there, and wanted to get him while he could...this was probably relayed to the people Jones feels are his top HC candidates, and signed off on

3) no matter who the new HC is, this years staff is NOT going to be compltely new...some of Parcells' assistants will be here, and it will probably be after next season before a complete new staff is hired to the new coaches liking

4) finally, who do you guys want a new HC to fill his staff with? unemployed people or all college coaches? because thats all thats available

alot of you need to chill and quit expecting the worst...you might end up pleasantly surprised

David

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Positive vibes from a normally negative person.

Ok...I am getting my fur coat on lay away as hell is going to freeze over soon.

Just Kidding David.

 

[Yeagermeister]

alot of you are going off the deep end, assuming the worst and that "Jones is forcing coaches on a new HC" etc etc

1) if you will remember back to earlier in the season, Jones himself said the reason some of the current assistants (specifically Zimmer) had not received contract extensions was because in the event Parcells wasnt the HC any longer, JONES wanted the new HC to be able to pick his own people

2) its almost February, every other HC opening has been filled and alot, if not most of those spots on those staffs have been filled...teams out of the playoffs have been adjusting their staffs too...the fact of the matter is it was going to be awfully hard for ANY new HC to hire a complete staff himself...in the case of Garrett (assuming he isnt the HC) Jones probably saw one of the last talented offensive guys out there, and wanted to get him while he could...this was probably relayed to the people Jones feels are his top HC candidates, and signed off on

3) no matter who the new HC is, this years staff is NOT going to be compltely new...some of Parcells' assistants will be here, and it will probably be after next season before a complete new staff is hired to the new coaches liking

4) finally, who do you guys want a new HC to fill his staff with? unemployed people or all college coaches? because thats all thats available

alot of you need to chill and quit expecting the worst...you might end up pleasantly surprised

David

I want Chico

 

[dbair1967]

Positive vibes from a normally negative person.

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I'm actually one of the more optimistic people there is when it comes to this team...its just that I saw things in what was going on that led me to believe we were going nowhere...too many games like the last month of December to my liking...keeping Zimmer after switcing to the 3-4...going with Vinny and the "best chance to win" non sense in 2004...4 straight yrs of December collapse

I was thrilled when we got Parcells by the way

I see the coaching change as a breath of fresh air and hope for 2007 and beyond

David

 

[Doomsday]

You should go work for Jerry your almost as good at spinning things as he is. Once again Jerry is reverting back to bringing in people that he is familiar with, so he can pull the strings. I dont buy all the crap that JG is some upcoming hot commodity, there have been 5 new staffs built in the last few weeks and I havent heard his name mentioned once.

 

[zrinkill]

Once again Jerry is reverting back to bringing in people that he is familiar with, so he can pull the strings.

based on what?

 

[VA Cowboy]

You should go work for Jerry your almost as good at spinning things as he is.

Reminds me of the spin when JJ hired Campo, who was actually much worse than Switzer and Gailey.

Many assume because the guy made billions in the oil business that it means he's smart enough to be GM

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

based on what?

I don't know how anyone could not question or even think about that...seriously.

He has had a history of it and Jason is someone from his past.

I am not going to jump up and down ranting and raving that it is that...but I honestly don't know how anyone could completely ignore that idea.

I would imagine if everyone was honest with themselves they will admit to thinking, even if it is just a little, in the back of their minds that JJ is reverting back to puppet master role by going with someone he is familiar with or someone he would have no trouble meddling with in the operations of the team.

 

[Doomsday]

based on what?

You act like that is a far fetched idea with no merit. All you have to do is look at Jerry's history and its obvious that he has his hands in everything and has since Jimmy left. If he hires a defenisve guru as the head coach he is sending a signal loud and clear that everyone is working for him. One guy running the offense (JG) and one guy running the defense and Jerry sitting at the top pulling all the strings.

 

[Next_years_Champs]

alot of you are going off the deep end, assuming the worst and that "Jones is forcing coaches on a new HC" etc etc

1) if you will remember back to earlier in the season, Jones himself said the reason some of the current assistants (specifically Zimmer) had not received contract extensions was because in the event Parcells wasnt the HC any longer, JONES wanted the new HC to be able to pick his own people

2) its almost February, every other HC opening has been filled and alot, if not most of those spots on those staffs have been filled...teams out of the playoffs have been adjusting their staffs too...the fact of the matter is it was going to be awfully hard for ANY new HC to hire a complete staff himself...in the case of Garrett (assuming he isnt the HC) Jones probably saw one of the last talented offensive guys out there, and wanted to get him while he could...this was probably relayed to the people Jones feels are his top HC candidates, and signed off on

3) no matter who the new HC is, this years staff is NOT going to be compltely new...some of Parcells' assistants will be here, and it will probably be after next season before a complete new staff is hired to the new coaches liking

4) finally, who do you guys want a new HC to fill his staff with? unemployed people or all college coaches? because thats all thats available

alot of you need to chill and quit expecting the worst...you might end up pleasantly surprised

David

Hey I'm all for Jason Garrett I think he could be a good head coach or offensive coordinator. I also understand that contracts have to be honored and that time is of the essence.

And just like you I look for signs that not all is well within the organization. And guess what I see? I see signs that Jerry Jones football super-guru general manager might be re-awakening from his four year slumber. That possibility is there you can't deny it.

I certainly hope that is not the case, I can see this as positive since I think Jason Garrett is the type of individual who would respect the chain of command and not work to undermine his head coach. but anyone who thinks a high quality head coach wouldn't mind his coordinators being hired before he has any input is delusional, good coaches are very sensitive about who has their back and rightfully so.

 

[zrinkill]

I was talking about in this instance right here .....

You guys are jumping to conclusions and have already laid out the gameplan because he hired some guy he would have hired anyway if Parcells stayed ......

Jerry wants this guy on his staff ........ I do not understand how this is a big deal as long as He lets the New coach hire whoever he wants ALSO ....

 

[BulletBob]

You act like that is a far fetched idea with no merit. All you have to do is look at Jerry's history and its obvious that he has his hands in everything and has since Jimmy left. If he hires a defenisve guru as the head coach he is sending a signal loud and clear that everyone is working for him. One guy running the offense (JG) and one guy running the defense and Jerry sitting at the top pulling all the strings.

Was Jerry an idiot when he hired Parcells?

Has he had his hands in everything for the past 4 years?

How do you know what level of control Jerry is going to give to his new HC?

Look, we were all running around the boards yesterday like a bunch of school girls yipping and yapping about how Jerry was hiring an OC before hiring a HC.

Turns out that he's considering Garrett as a HC (or so the press reports).

My point is that we have no idea what Jerry's strategy is with this hire, and how much involvement he plans to have in the day-to-day operations of this team.

We are all jumping to conclusions way to fast (myself included).

 

[silverbear]

I don't know how anyone could not question or even think about that...seriously.

Seriously, Jerry would have to be incredibly stupid to fall back into those bad ol' habits... do you think he's that stupid??

He has had a history of it

And he got nowhere fast doing it that way... which is precisely why he brought Parcells in and ceded the bulk of the authority to him... most important, doing so WORKED, it got the Boys moving in the right direction again...

So, do you really think that Jerry can't figure that out too??

I would imagine if everyone was honest with themselves they will admit to thinking, even if it is just a little, in the back of their minds that JJ is reverting back to puppet master role by going with someone he is familiar with or someone he would have no trouble meddling with in the operations of the team.

I thought about that for about 2 seconds, and came up with the answer I offered above... honestly, I'm not really worried about that at all...

Rather, I truly think Jerry's just looking for a caretaker, a short term answer so that he can after the "name" coach he craves for his team next season... I refer, of course, to Bill Cowher... of course, if that short term answer comes in and wins it all (or gets close to winning it all), that might change the master plan...

 

[Doomsday]

Was Jerry an idiot when he hired Parcells?

Has he had his hands in everything for the past 4 years?

How do you know what level of control Jerry is going to give to his new HC?

Look, we were all running around the boards yesterday like a bunch of school girls yipping and yapping about how Jerry was hiring an OC before hiring a HC.

Turns out that he's considering Garrett as a HC (or so the press reports).

My point is that we have no idea what Jerry's strategy is with this hire, and how much involvement he plans to have in the day-to-day operations of this team.

We are all jumping to conclusions way to fast (myself included).

He pushed Zimmer and TO BP that tells me he had his hands in a lot more then people realize or that we were led to believe.

Coaches and their assistants have to be on the same page. How is that going to happen when you bring in your offensive guy to run half the team?

Bringing in Garrett as the head coach would be even worse. The guy has zero experience leading and offense let alone head coaching experience and you want him to take over a playoff calibur team?

 

[VA Cowboy]

Seriously, Jerry would have to be incredibly stupid to fall back into those bad ol' habits... do you think he's that stupid??

Uh...

Stupid wouldn't be the word for it. I do however think his ego is so large that he probably thinks he knows what he's doing.

 

[dbair1967]

You should go work for Jerry your almost as good at spinning things as he is. Once again Jerry is reverting back to bringing in people that he is familiar with, so he can pull the strings. I dont buy all the crap that JG is some upcoming hot commodity, there have been 5 new staffs built in the last few weeks and I havent heard his name mentioned once.

Garrett's name has been mentioned, but the Dolphins have declined all the interview requests until ours.

Either you havent paid attention, or have just chosen to ignore it.

David

 

[iceberg]

I'm actually one of the more optimistic people there is when it comes to this team...its just that I saw things in what was going on that led me to believe we were going nowhere...too many games like the last month of December to my liking...keeping Zimmer after switcing to the 3-4...going with Vinny and the "best chance to win" non sense in 2004...4 straight yrs of December collapse

I was thrilled when we got Parcells by the way

I see the coaching change as a breath of fresh air and hope for 2007 and beyond

David

yea, pre-parcells i was one of the most positive people about htis team. when he went 4 useless games and insisted on vinnie vs. letting romo or henson play, it screamed inflexibility to me and an unwillingness to try.

"win a useless game" was our motto. now what if we gave romo his 2 games then? i was always told you can't tell anything in 2-3 games, but 2-3 games into romo's start last year, there were a lot of people saying "see!!! i told you so!!! THAT'S how to bring in a qb!!!"

but yet, 3 games back then couldn't tell you anything, right?

parcells is gone and his 2 weeks of "oh, drama drama...i don't know" did put us behind and if jones DOES want a coach still coaching, could that coach still assemble a staff 2 weeks from now? what would be left?

we've been put into a unique situation and while i'll look at the move with a ? in my mind, i'll undersatnd it as potentially necessary due to our "unique" situation parcells left us in.

for all those that want to panic and predict 5-11 all over again - maybe.

but i don't see it and i sure won't say it's a lock just because i have an anti-jones boner to wave around. let's see how it plays out and let's see if parcells really left us a lot of talent.

give it some time. the bp supporters were gonna give bp all the time he wanted but jones has killed this team in a day?

kinda odd thinking to me.

 

[Doomsday]

Uhh one problem with that theory. Are you really going to tell me that it will be that much harder to put a staff together next week? I mean really, if Jerry put all his time and energy into finding a head coach instead of interviewing coordinators it could be a done deal in the next few days and the new coach could have input on building his staff. You cant tell me that a few days this late in the game is going to make that big of a difference.

 

[zrinkill]

Uhh one problem with that theory. Are you really going to tell me that it will be that much harder to put a staff together next week? I mean really, if Jerry put all his time and energy into finding a head coach instead of interviewing coordinators it could be a done deal in the next few days and the new coach could have input on building his staff. You cant tell me that a few days this late in the game is going to make that big of a difference.

Not if who he wants he has to wait till after the Superbowl ......

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I agree with David. Jerry *may* be going back to his old stupid ways, but the bottom line is that it's too early to say that based merely on some interviews he's doing.

If he does hire some puppet cast of a coaching staff like the old days, then we can all criticise the heck out of him. But until then I think we should give him a chance. For all we know, he may just be doing his due diligence.

Remember, Parcells is still there and is even sitting in for some interviews, and I don't think he'd advise Jerry to do anything too crazy. So like Silverbear said, I really think Jerry has gotten smarter since those late-90s days.