On the Micheal Irvin show Emmitt and Nate chime in

[big dog cowboy]

Actually, last year Arizona went up to New England or Philly and laid an egg, which infuriated their HC. When they went to practice for their next game, they were shocked that Weisenhut made the dress in full pads and have a very physical practice. That's what started their run to the superbowl.

Perhaps they shouldn't practice in pads everyweek, but when they lay an egg, they should know that a hard week of physcial practice is awaiting them. Maybe they will work harder and play better knowing that if they don't a very physical practice is awaiting them.

I would like to see Wade do that.

 

[Alexander]

I would like to see Wade do that.

Whisenhunt also threatened people's jobs.

I don't see Phillips doing that, nor do I see him being allowed to do that even if he wanted to. That's part of the problem in itself.

 

[AsthmaField]

It was one loss... by two points.

One INT bounced off of Witten's foot and stuck to the DB's gut like velcro. One TD bounced around until it nestled right in the WR's bread basket and then, stuck like velcro.

the entire game, things bounced and calls were made in the Giants favor and still, the Cowboys were thisclose to victory.

In the NFL, losses happen. Teams have off days. Nothing needs to be changed.

You could tell watching the game that if Dallas and NY played 10 times, Dallas would win the majority of them.

Good grief... let the season play out a little before jumping off a bridge. It is embarrassing for other team's fans to come read this melt down. You just know they're loving the defcon 5 most Cowboy fans are at.

 

[cowboyjoe]

Its all Wade's fault...

There so much talent on this team that if practiced correctly this team would go undefeated

oh wait....this team cant be talented......Jerry Jones is a pathetic GM...

We always go back to how jimmy johnson ran practice....but there are alot of other SB coaches that dont run their players into the ground and have won SB's

Yes, but there are more head coaches that have won championships superbowls with the hard nosed tough practices then the easy no hitting training camps without pads etc. Hostile did an article on tough coaches and easy coaches, more head coaches have won being the tough coach then the other way with being easy in practices

If it was just coaching then Jimmy Genius would of won a SB and gone undefeated in Miami......but how did that work out?

Totally different scenario. Jimmy Johnson had total control while in dallas the first 5 years. Jimmy Johnson had to battle Don Shula for control in Miami. Not sure if your aware or not, but Jimmy wanted to trade Marino like he did with Hershel Walker, Shula wouldnt let him.
Has to do with total control of a football team.

Can the coaches coach better? Sure.....is it the lack of physical practice that is the problem with this team? I highly doubt it.....Players even commented that Wade's training camp was one of the hardest in years....even harder then Big Bill's time here.

Yes, lack of physical toughness on this team, which in reality leads to mental toughness, this team just doesnt have it. They keep shooting themselves in the foot or make mistakes or cant stop the last drive. Prove in point, ravens game at the end, 2 long runs by ravens at the same spot on defense? That has to deal with toughness and coaching my friend. As a head coach you might be me one time, but you sure shouldnt beat me that same way twice. If you do, your not coaching the players to be tough enough and endure. The Pittsburgh game, killer mistakes right at the end. The giants playoff game or the game sunday night with the giants. Eventually you will see it.

Loook at it this way. The Jets had a new head coach right. They installed a new defense right, more multiple blitz packages etc. I think you would agree with me that they harrased the QBs in both games they won right and left with interceptions and turnover on defense.

Yet, what do we do on defense, first game of season, we try multiple blitz packages, but after half time wade has to go back to base defense. Then what does wade say? I probably didnt run blitz packages enough in preseason games and training camp. So, what did wade have to do after the 1st game. Wade fixed the run defense. That worked. Now he has to fix the pass defense.

Why in the world didnt he do that in preseason? His answer was, oh, i didnt want to get players hurt, because when you blitz, you tend to get players hurt especially on offense. Now are you satisfied with that answer?

If the jets new head coach worked his team, and got them with a killer mentality, and wade is suppose to be this defensive coordinator guru, why didnt wade to that in training camp. Answer too soft in camp, with no hitting, no pads and especialy no tackling.

You work those players over and over till they get it, thats what they are paid for bottom line.

Then, when you start winning like the jets are, the players accept the tough camp policy and keep working that way, but when you run around in shorts, no pads during practice, your players are soft.

Sure why did the players say camp was tough, because wade didnt give them any time off, no days off. Thats why camp was tough to them, not the physical part but the mental part of studying and walking through practice every day with no days off.

That attitude still doesnt make your team tough, when the big game comes up, for you not to make no mistakes, no penalties, no turnovers, you havent practiced that way in camp, so your going to keep making those stupid silly plays and not stop an opposing teams drive like the pittsburgh game or the ravens game or the giants cowboys game sunday night.

In other words, did the giants have any turnovers or did the giants make stupid mistakes like newman did on a pass coverage or flozell did with the tripping, or bobby carpenter on holding no. Eventually you will get it and see. Might take you awhile but eventually you will see.

 

[alancdc]

I know a lot of today's players do this, but it wouldn't hurt for our defensive guys to not pound their chests every freakin' time they finally come through with a tackle. Hard for me to watch us give up so many points, and players are acting like that. Make a freakin' tackle and walk back to the huddle until you play like the Steelers and Ravens.

 

[panchucko]

This is all fodder and BS IMHO. After we win 7-9 games this season, who will Red hire for his def. coordinator? It's really a more relevant question than beating the dead horse topic of "Wade Sucks" ............etc....we all KNOW that............................

Come on you don't really believe Jerry will let Red hire his own staff do you?
Hasn't this been the problem since Jimmy left, Jerry will hire assistances and HC needs to bless them.

 

[ArmyCowboy]

That wasn't the case this week though. Dallas came out playing intense.

They just had to many turnovers and bad bounces.

Hopefully we'll get it squared away but I don't have faith that we will because it is a reoccuring thing.

Wade had these guys ready though and put them in a position for success. The players epically failed.

Exactly, the players played hard, no doubt about it.

I'm not sure how the players hitting in pads is going to result in Romo throwing fewer interceptions, but maybe it makes some people feel better to thump their chests and say the players should be hitting in parctice will solve everything.

 

[NextGenBoys]

Great stuff. This team doesn't know what a hard practice is like. They have been embarassed so many times and never respond. I have lost all faith in Wades ability to motivate this team.

I dont think the terms "heart, passion and motivation" make any sense in this instance.

We got outplayed. Motivation, heart, or passion or whatever doesnt matter.

If you want to put it on Wade, Wade did not prepare us well for this game with our practices and we got outplayed. Not out motivated.

Everything else is a cop out. I saw plenty of heart passion and motivation out there, but we did not make the plays we needed to make in order to win.

 

[Mash]

Cowboy Joe;

I dont want to quote your whole response so here is my reply to your post..

I understand Wade isnt the best Coach.....but I dont believe you have to be a task master to succeed in the NFL. Marv Levy went to 4 straight SB's by not running their guys into the ground....as with Bill Walsh. So history tells us that being a task master and running guys to the ground is the most successfull way.....but its not the only way.

Look at Bellicheat this year.....why is his team struggling? Is it because he hasnt been the hard *** he was previous years? No.....its because he has less talent. Bellicheat basically played a two deep zone all game against the Bills because he couldnt trust his corners or pass rush.

Why is it so hard to understand that maybe its the players.........

The Jets played a great game.....but they maned up on moss with Revis (sp?) which gave coaches options to run blitz packages....Revis also shut Johnson (Hou) the week before.

Do you really think Wade can trust Newman one on one with those players? Look what Smith and co did to him Sunday nite...

Wade's record speaks for itself starting the season.....so I have no issues with his training camps. Should he be better during the week preparing for the next opponent? Maybe.......but (I may be too stubborn).... I really think its on the players........like Scandrick said...I have to listen to my coaches.....Wade didnt tell Adams to trip.....Wade sure didnt tell Romo to throw that deep int...should Wade bench them? Jimmy Johnson never yelled or benched his star players.....

I dont know what people want.....first its a chemistry issue.....then its no leadership.......then its make it Romo friendly.....now its get rid of Romo and Wade is too soft.

This team is a very good team but the players have to step up to make it a great team. Switzer won a SB and many say he was just going along with the ride and the players won it for him....

Its talent that wins most of the time in this league....

For every Ryan we have a Mangini...

Lets see what Ryan or Singletary win in this league.....without any talent.......coaching is important but its up to the players to be accountable....

We just have different opinions....u think those stupid mistakes by Flo..Newman and bobbie C...were the result of bad coaching.....I tend to blame the players.....btw...its not like Manning never throws bad int.....so when he does.....should we blame the Giants coaching?

 

[Goldenrichards83]

Exactly, the players played hard, no doubt about it.

I't not sure how the players hitting in pads is going to result in Romo throwing fewer interceptions, but maybe it makes some people feel better to thump their chests and say the players should be hitting in parctice will solve everything.

It wasn't just hitting in practice but practice in more pressure situations. This isn't a get rid of Wade Phillips thread but I think these hall of famers are on too something. I really don't compare Dallas to most teams because of their media market. I know thier are other big market teams but the Dallas media is something in itself. I remember back in the day for you to have a show on TV you had to at least win something. Now in Dallas we have so many guys on the team with their own shows or who appear on all kind of shows and they haven't won a playoff game in years. I think a tougher mentality in practice will bring some of these primadonnas back down to earth.

 

[Dallas4ever]

Great stuff. This team doesn't know what a hard practice is like. They have been embarassed so many times and never respond. I have lost all faith in Wades ability to motivate this team.

Welcome to the club!

I'm sure you didn't have a hard time finding it.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Nothing will change until Marshmellow figures out that you cannot use the fear of injuries as an excuse not to practice hard...it's an absolute sham. This team's mindset will NEVER change until he figures this out.

Btw, the Bills won alot in the early 90's not because they didn't practice in pads during the week, but rather the overwhelming talent they possessed on both sides of the ball....yes, maybe even more than that Cowboys team that whupped them twice in a row

 

[removed_20241105]

Strange there were no quotes of this nature from Emmitt after the TB win.

 

[Goldenrichards83]

True grit: 49ers molded in Singletary's tough-guy image


Some 2-0 records are prettier than others. You look at teams such as the New Orleans Saints, and you see a lot of points, a lot of yards, and a lot of big plays. You see the clean, unwrinkled uniforms found on a club that wins mainly with finesse.

Then you look at the San Francisco 49ers. What you see is a lot of toughness and a lot of grit. You see a defense that punishes and an offense that pounds. There is nothing pretty about the way this bunch plays.

And that's because the 49ers are an exact replica of their coach, Mike Singletary, who was the very definition of toughness and grit during his Pro Football Hall of Fame career at middle linebacker for the Chicago Bears.
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"That's the mindset that he always wanted from us, and that's what's been exemplified on the field," 49ers veteran linebacker Takeo Spikes said.

Singletary set out to create that sort of mentality among his players seven games into the 2008 season, when he was named the 49ers' interim coach after Mike Nolan was fired. However, Singletary didn't get to fully implement his plan to bring it about until this past offseason, when he was given the job on a full-time basis.

It all began last March, during what the Niners officially called a minicamp but what, to Spikes, felt more like a boot camp. The fact he and his teammates were gathered so early in the offseason for anything even remotely resembling football activity was the first clue that Singletary had something unusual in store for his team -- something other than standard non-contact workouts. The next clue came when the so-called "drills" began.

"When we first stepped out on the field, we didn't even touch a ball," Spikes recalled.

What the players touched were sand bags, which they carried from one yard marker to another. Singletary pushed them hard through the exercises, with each session growing more intense than the one before it.

In 11 seasons in the NFL, Spikes could not recall another offseason workout quite like this.

"It was more so catered toward (Singletary saying), 'I want to see if you really want to be here. And I know you're not going to (say so), but your actions will speak louder than your words ever will,'" Spikes said. "You knew a foundation was going to be laid, but you (wondered) whether or not you really wanted to see it happen. You thought, 'Man, if this was this tough, imagine how training camp is going to be.'"

Training camp was, in fact, much harder. Some would call it brutal. Singletary revived the age-old "Oklahoma Drill," with a ball-carrier and defender going one-on-one in a confined space surrounded by the rest of the team and coaching staff. It's collision after collision to see who can emerge victorious in the ultimate game of football survival.

The rest of Singletary's camp was every bit as challenging. He held a total of 45 practices, 38 of which were part of two-a-days in full pads.

"His mentality toward this game has always been us playing physical and tough and relentless," 49ers veteran center Eric Heitmann said. "We haven't had that identity before, and that's what he wants to strive for first. Everything will kind of take care of itself after that."

So far it has. The 49ers opened the season by traveling to Arizona, where they knocked off the defending NFC West and NFC champion Cardinals. On Sunday, they beat the Seattle Seahawks, considered by many pundits to be a division favorite.



The Niners' defense held Kurt Warner and the rest of the Cardinals' high-flying offense in check. It then pummeled Matt Hasselbeck, who was hospitalized after suffering a cracked rib on a hit by linebacker Patrick Willis. San Francisco's running game, which was persistent but unproductive in the first game, trampled the Seahawks for 256 yards. Frank Gore had 207 on 16 carries, including touchdown runs of 79 and 80 yards.

"(A successful) running game always has been a huge goal for us, and I think that coach Singletary firmly believes and our offensive coordinator (Jimmy Raye) firmly believes that when the running game is working at its best, everything on our offense can go," Heitmann said.

Everything, as in the effectiveness of Shaun Hill, who beat out 2005 No. 1 overall draft pick Alex Smith in training camp for the starting quarterback job. One topic the 49ers' fast start has overshadowed is the fact they have the least accomplished starter in the division.

"Shaun has more confidence and composure, I think, than just about any other quarterback I've ever played with," Heitmann said. "He does not get rattled. You're not going to see turnovers from Shaun. He's a guy who makes great, confident decisions. He doesn't ever really put us in a bad place on offense. He's done a great job for us."

Another subject the Niners' 2-0 record also has made at least a little less distressing is the fact wide receiver Michael Crabtree, their first-round draft pick, remains unsigned.

"As a team, how can you miss what you've never had?" Spikes said. "We understand that it's a business. (But) what person doesn't want to be a part of something special?"

And what does the 49ers' sitting among the NFL's unbeatens say about all that has transpired since March?

"I think it says that the proof is in the pudding," Spikes said. "It says that hard work does pay off."

 

[Sportsbabe]

Great stuff. This team doesn't know what a hard practice is like. They have been embarassed so many times and never respond. I have lost all faith in Wades ability to motivate this team.

I heard the guys on Mike's show and they made very valid points.

 

[Sportsbabe]

Good grief. There isn't a single team out there that practices like Jimmy did. Not one. So I guess whoever wins the Super Bowl is doing it wrong, too.

I get so tired of these guys from the glory days sometimes. Yes, if only we did Oklahoma drills all week long, we too would suddenly gain three or four Hall of Famers on our team!

But Chocolate, Emmit made the point that he's only expressing what he knows. That's what worked for him and them (since HS). Sharing their formula for success. They just have a strong desire/passion for these Cowboys to have success also.

If a person can't learn from people who have been there and done that, then those are some people with no respect for history and proven examples of how it can be done. One thing I do know, Jerry won't stand for less than the pinnacle of success for too long (not even through the end of this season ... rack it), because he has put up too much and has too much at stake .... uuuhm billlions with a biggity-B.

 

[Bleu Star]

Send in the clowns.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

It was one loss... by two points.

One INT bounced off of Witten's foot and stuck to the DB's gut like velcro. One TD bounced around until it nestled right in the WR's bread basket and then, stuck like velcro.

the entire game, things bounced and calls were made in the Giants favor and still, the Cowboys were thisclose to victory.

In the NFL, losses happen. Teams have off days. Nothing needs to be changed.

You could tell watching the game that if Dallas and NY played 10 times, Dallas would win the majority of them.

Good grief... let the season play out a little before jumping off a bridge. It is embarrassing for other team's fans to come read this melt down. You just know they're loving the defcon 5 most Cowboy fans are at.

All though I want Phillips tared and feathered, this is the best post I have read since Saturday.

 

[dcfanatic]

Good grief. There isn't a single team out there that practices like Jimmy did. Not one. So I guess whoever wins the Super Bowl is doing it wrong, too.

I get so tired of these guys from the glory days sometimes. Yes, if only we did Oklahoma drills all week long, we too would suddenly gain three or four Hall of Famers on our team!

The 49ers, Steelers and Eagles always go hard in practice.

I just don't see how people want to defend Wade anymore when he's got his team out on Wednesday early in the season just *****footing around before a big game.

There isn't any way this will ever be known as a tough, hard nosed, warrior mentality, get it done no matter what it takes NFL football team with Wade around.

I just hate that we are a soft team year in and year out that can't sometimes find ways to win big games, but can always do enough things to make sure the other team is kept in the game so they can find a way to win.

 

[dcfanatic]

It was one loss... by two points.

One INT bounced off of Witten's foot and stuck to the DB's gut like velcro. One TD bounced around until it nestled right in the WR's bread basket and then, stuck like velcro.

the entire game, things bounced and calls were made in the Giants favor and still, the Cowboys were thisclose to victory.

In the NFL, losses happen. Teams have off days. Nothing needs to be changed.

You could tell watching the game that if Dallas and NY played 10 times, Dallas would win the majority of them.

Good grief... let the season play out a little before jumping off a bridge. It is embarrassing for other team's fans to come read this melt down. You just know they're loving the defcon 5 most Cowboy fans are at.

That's a really dumb statement.

Keep pumping up that 'we only lost by two points' mentality like Wade does.

When are we going to get the 'we won by three' mentality. That's what we want as fans. Anything that mentions the word 'losing' or 'loss' is unnacceptable.

You act like we are cursed and there is nothing we could do about it. As if the mistakes made by Romo, Flozell, Newman, Scandrick, Hamlin, Felix didn't play a part in us losing.