One thing I don't want to hear on offense

[jazzcat22]

I don't want to hear anyone on the offense saying “a lot of this offense looks the same as what we've been doing!" To me has much changed, they'll say it's different verbage, but it's familiar as last year. I think I'll throw up instantly if I hear this!

We need to get as far away as possible from anything that we've been doing, and get some new ideas and concepts in here!! Please give your thoughts

We need to see it on the field first, before anyone can comment on anything.
Even what we will see in any practice or PS games, we can't say for sure.

You know some will say it. But if you look at any teams offense, one can say the same thing. It still comes down to the players executing the plays.
If KC goes 6-11 this year. Their fans will be saying, hey it's the same offense they ran since Reid got here, time to change it up.

 

[jazzcat22]

Nothing will ever change. Can you imagine if Dallas hired Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson would be pulling his hair out trying to make the same moves he is making in Chicago.
Jerry would be telling him this is what you have to work with. Get it done!

I think Jerry is listening to his new coaching staff, and they have some influence. As he tries to give them the groceries to cook with.
Now where do those groceries come from. Some will say they are shopping 1 day old items to fresh produce.
Other will say out back in the dumpster.

At least they are making an effort more so than last year, filling holes in the roster with a lot better possibilities than they have before. Also they are not bringing back every FA they have. The past 2 years they have let a lot of players walk in FA, that many do not think should be here anyway.

This players need to be replaced. And that is what they are doing. Then rely upon the draft for BPA and not need. Though they still do need a lot.

 

[SquidwardTentacles]

Maybe we can learn how to disguise a screen pass and Dak can learn how to throw it to the receiver's advantage

 

[GINeric]

.....and whilst we undoubtably need to increase the run (even to free up the secondary), what an embarrassment for Jerry and Dak that your top end QB needs so much increased support....indeed he now needs EVERYTHING.

It's hilarious to read this take because the same people who has a problem with a quarterback needing talent around him, we're the same people who gave quarterbacks like Matthew Stafford excuses for playing in Detroit and given excuses about the team he played on....

Then the year Stafford played on a talented Rams team that had went all in to aquire talent all around that quarterback on both sides of the ball to reach the Superbowl.... that was the same season Stafford led the league in interceptions....

What has Stafford done since that talent around him left LA?

As a matter of fact, name me all the quarterbacks outside of Brady and Mahomes who have succeeded without talent around them..... this is a question that gets frequently avoided for some mysterious reason.

 

[jazzcat22]

Maybe we can learn how to disguise a screen pass and Dak can learn how to throw it to the receiver's advantage

Yes, one of my biggest pet peeves. I don't think they had a successful screen pass since 2016, when Zeke took it for what, 86 yards for a TD.

On the flip side, the defense needs to learn how to defend a screen pass.

 

[Hadenough]

I think Jerry is listening to his new coaching staff, and they have some influence. As he tries to give them the groceries to cook with.
Now where do those groceries come from. Some will say they are shopping 1 day old items to fresh produce.
Other will say out back in the dumpster.

At least they are making an effort more so than last year, filling holes in the roster with a lot better possibilities than they have before. Also they are not bringing back every FA they have. The past 2 years they have let a lot of players walk in FA, that many do not think should be here anyway.

This players need to be replaced. And that is what they are doing. Then rely upon the draft for BPA and not need. Though they still do need a lot.

It just seems like they really haven't done much in FAs but being in or trade for a few players highly drafted that haven't turned out well. That seems like Jerry move thinking he can fix someone.

 

[jazzcat22]

It just seems like they really haven't done much in FAs but being in or trade for a few players highly drafted that haven't turned out well. That seems like Jerry move thinking he can fix someone.

He needs to fix himself first.

 

[SquidwardTentacles]

Yes, one of my biggest pet peeves. I don't think they had a successful screen pass since 2016, when Zeke took it for what, 86 yards for a TD.

On the flip side, the defense needs to learn how to defend a screen pass.

More hybrids will help

 

[Coogiguy03]

We need to see it on the field first, before anyone can comment on anything.
Even what we will see in any practice or PS games, we can't say for sure.

You know some will say it. But if you look at any teams offense, one can say the same thing. It still comes down to the players executing the plays.
If KC goes 6-11 this year. Their fans will be saying, hey it's the same offense they ran since Reid got here, time to change it up.

really good points jazz!!! I agree with the PS games and practice, I hate when they tell us what they're doing and how they're using them in different ways on the field, only for us not to see them until the second half of the season

 

[Coogiguy03]

Yes, one of my biggest pet peeves. I don't think they had a successful screen pass since 2016, when Zeke took it for what, 86 yards for a TD.

On the flip side, the defense needs to learn how to defend a screen pass.

loooooooooool right!! The WR screens are useless

 

[noshame]

The quarterback has limitations. You have to play within those limitations every coach that's come here, has found this out. It will be a very horizontal version of the WCO

 

[jazzcat22]

The quarterback has limitations. You have to play within those limitations every coach that's come here, has found this out. It will be a very horizontal version of the WCO

Do they have a WR that can go horizontal. And I don't mean laying down on the field.

We have not had a true deep threat nor end zone threat since Dez. And he did both.

 

[Ranching]

Y’all didn’t work this out yet? I thought you were going to have him at the ranch for a long weekend and become besties.

That aside, I’m no XO person, but wasn’t the major point of hiring Shoddy about familiarity for Prescott?

Unless I’m wrong I’d expect the offense to look very close to the same.

If he comes to my ranch, you'll never see him again....Hmmm...maybe, I should invite him to come over!

 

[Ranching]

Be careful!! He'll call you an Eagles lover or some other loser fake talking point.

Thank you you sharing your thoughts...lol

 

[Chuck 54]

I don't want to hear anyone on the offense saying “a lot of this offense looks the same as what we've been doing!" To me has much changed, they'll say it's different verbage, but it's familiar as last year. I think I'll throw up instantly if I hear this!

We need to get as far away as possible from anything that we've been doing, and get some new ideas and concepts in here!! Please give your thoughts

You do realize that Shotty was the OC, right? He may call plays differently. They may block a little differently, but the offense is not going to be anywhere near as new as the defense may be.

 

[noshame]

Do they have a WR that can go horizontal. And I don't mean laying down on the field.

We have not had a true deep threat nor end zone threat since Dez. And he did both.

KM turned CeeDee into a deadly horizontal threat.
We also have some capable TEs.
Turpin could be deadly deep or at least demand a double every play. However, I would have him catching 50 deep passes a day off the machine..
I wouldn’t mind bringing in Keenan Allen for a safety valve.

 

[5Stars]

You don't wanna hear it...then, STOP ASKING OUR THOUGHTS! Damn, this is ridiculous....serious question, Coogs, did another forum plant you here, to destroy this site? You're doing a great job! There won't be many left by camp and you and your one-liner buddy can give each other likes for sharing your thoughts with each other.

He most likely has you on ignore, that is why maybe he needs to be a mod because they cannot put you on ignore, then you can tell him what you really want to without breaking the forum rules.

He has me on ignore also and several others because he thinks he is cute when others actually give him his stupid thoughts.

 

[Ranching]

He most likely has you on ignore, that is why maybe he needs to be a mod because they cannot put you on ignore, then you can tell him what you really want to without breaking the forum rules.

He has me on ignore also and several others because he thinks he is cute when others actually give him his stupid thoughts.

I wish I could ignore him, he's like a turd in a punch bowl, you don't wanna look, but it's hard not too.

 

[5Stars]

I wish I could ignore him, he's like a turd in a punch bowl, you don't wanna look, but it's hard not too.

Yeah, I don't ignore anyone. To me that is a cowardly thing to do just because the ones that do put others on ignore do not want to hear an opinion different than theirs.

I want to ignore jazzcat but I just can't because I like him so much. lol

 

[TheCritic]

I wish I could ignore him, he's like a turd in a punch bowl, you don't wanna look, but it's hard not too.

Honestly the best thing the mods could do for the Troll is let him have his own thread and every time he posts another thread just merge it. That way, any one who does take that troll seriously can interact with him. His own little safe space/prison/phantom zone/cage, whatever term you want to call it. That would be the fairest solution for everybody.