Only in Dallas do they need so many leaders

[Hardline]

Harry Truman once said. "The buck stops here."

The biggest problem with the Cowboys is where the buck stops.

 

[Future]

Well, to be fair, I don't think he is suggesting we get rid of bad contracts to add more bad contracts. Lol. I think he is saying get rid of all these dead weight contracts and replace them with performing contracts.

Sure, but that's not reality. UFAs have "performing contracts" for a year or two, and then turn into the same contracts we're talking about right now. There is never value at the top of the UFA market - you find it with reclamations and late free agency options who fit.Woods, Looney, Laurent Robinson, etc.

Besides, the Cowboys have so much cap space right now that they can afford a top player (ET) and a handful of those later guys.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You're absolutely right, and that's how it should be. Belicheck has enough leadership himself that he only need Brady among his players.



And these leaders you mentioned were all highly productive starters, not the backup/part timers we're grossly overpaying now. That's a key part of my point. They're obviously not being paid according to their on-field contributions.

I won't argue with the quality of players we have today, vs. when we were winning championships. when the coaching is not there in leadership, when the players aren't there in leadership, when the GM is not there in leadership, you end up with a product that's not so good, which is what we have. I attribute most of it to Jerry. At the end of the day, he is the GM, president and everything falls on him.

 

[408Cowboy]

I wasn't responding to your posts, it was more about the moving goalposts in the OP. Your summary is a fair one, I think that is where a lot of people fall on the issue. My complaint is with the minority that can't acknowledge there has been progress or that there is real upside with his team.

You quoted @ESisback response to me so I laid it out in the same format to get it across. Probably should've tagged him in it. You also have valid points that there has been significant improvement and this team has plenty of upside. My problem with it is that the quality in coaching hasn't improved nearly as well. I would love to see them go all in by loading the roster to make a real run for it. If they do and we don't advance to a NFCCG at the minimum Garrett needs to go. I just trust him to squander another opportunity more than anything else at this point.

 

[Kaiser]

My problem with it is that the quality in coaching hasn't improved nearly as well. I would love to see them go all in by loading the roster to make a real run for it. If they do and we don't advance to a NFCCG at the minimum Garrett needs to go. I just trust him to squander another opportunity more than anything else at this point.

IMO its way more about talent and execution than the coaching. And the coaching is a group effort where one guy (Linehan) can kill you, but a great new add (Richard) is only a marginal improvement.

I don't think Garrett is the best, but he certainly isn't the problem. It takes time and you still have to have some luck. The Saints were the best team in the NFL this year and Payton is a great coach - and they watched the Super Bowl from home. The Patriots are clearly the gold standard and they had a ten year stretch where they didn't win a SB.

Our fan reaction to the coaching IMO is "the perfect is the enemy of the good", which every team's fans do. We don't have the best staff, but taken all together they are above average.

 

[408Cowboy]

IMO its way more about talent and execution than the coaching. And the coaching is a group effort where one guy (Linehan) can kill you, but a great new add (Richard) is only a marginal improvement.

I don't think Garrett is the best, but he certainly isn't the problem. It takes time and you still have to have some luck. The Saints were the best team in the NFL this year and Payton is a great coach - and they watched the Super Bowl from home. The Patriots are clearly the gold standard and they had a ten year stretch where they didn't win a SB.

Our fan reaction to the coaching IMO is "the perfect is the enemy of the good", which every team's fans do. We don't have the best staff, but taken all together they are above average.

Richard made more than a marginal impact. I doubt we beat NO the way we did if it weren't for his influence in scheme and play calling. There were plenty of other games throughout the year where the D played significantly above the standard Marinelli's has set. Byron Jones transformation could easily be credited solely to him as well. On the other side Linehan was allowed to fester. Through out the year we witnessed him call plays suited to Dak's skill set where he would excell just to watch him go right back to the same tepid plays that bore little results. Week after week. Where is the HC in this? Why allow your OC to sputter off into lala land? According to reports the last game against the Giants Linehan had little to maybe no involvement in the game plan and the difference was night and day. After that he was right back to creating the game plan for the playoffs. Same route concepts, same personnel, par for the course. Garrett the HC was aware his OC had become a liability and acted on it for one game. Then in what can only be an attempt to not be out done Garrett pulls the best Linehan of the year and goes right back to the same dry well. Too bad he happened to call his worst game the same time the D got caught with it's pants down. It's downright comical at this point.

 

[Kaiser]

On the other side Linehan was allowed to fester. Through out the year we witnessed him call plays suited to Dak's skill set where he would excell just to watch him go right back to the same tepid plays that bore little results. Week after week. Where is the HC in this?

They did take responsibility away from Linehan at midseason. They fired Alexander but you can't fire an OC in midseason to install a brand new offense on the fly. It just doesn't happen. Garrett installed plays of his own and apparently Kellen Moore was given more responsibility at midseason when Linehan had some taken away.

Everyone knew it, when they started calling middle routes for Blake Jarwin Aikman was saying publicly in his commentary that those were plays Garrett had installed.

 

[408Cowboy]

They did take responsibility away from Linehan at midseason. They fired Alexander but you can't fire an OC in midseason to install a brand new offense on the fly. It just doesn't happen. Garrett installed plays of his own and apparently Kellen Moore was given more responsibility at midseason when Linehan had some taken away.

Everyone knew it, when they started calling middle routes for Blake Jarwin Aikman was saying publicly in his commentary that those were plays Garrett had installed.

Fair enough. In your previous post you said it takes time and then still some luck. How much more time would you be willing to give him? You also said in your opinion it's way more about talent and execution than coaching. IMO it is to a degree. It's ultimately the coach's responsibility to recognize the talent available and decide how best to utilize it. As Richard did immediately after being hired by making it clear Byron Jones would be playing corner. That decision paid off throughout the year. Since Garrett lost play calling duties to be a walk around coach where is the payoff? And what exactly is he doing to make sure the talent is properly utilized by his staff? He was hired as the HC in waiting I understood it was a learn as you go situation and that there would be growing pains. That said plenty of companies hire people new to the position all the time and typically have probationary periods. I'm ready for this year to be his final assessment of who and what he is as a coach. I hope JJ goes all in to stack the roster and make it happen.

 

[Kaiser]

Fair enough. In your previous post you said it takes time and then still some luck. How much more time would you be willing to give him?

I give him as much time as he is showing he is worth keeping, which is mostly about the team improving. The team has except for the stretches last year when LT was a disaster and the first half of the season where our TE and WR groups were a joke.

That lack of talent isn't on Garrett and my main point is the people saying Garrett sucks were saying at midseason we would never have a winning record. Then they said we would never make the playoffs. Then they said if we made the playoffs, we wouldn't win a game.

Now the complaint is that we didn't win the SB. Pretty significant moving of the goalposts.

 

[Kaiser]

It's ultimately the coach's responsibility to recognize the talent available and decide how best to utilize it. As Richard did immediately after being hired by making it clear Byron Jones would be playing corner. That decision paid off throughout the year. Since Garrett lost play calling duties to be a walk around coach where is the payoff? And what exactly is he doing to make sure the talent is properly utilized by his staff?

This is a good example, because Kris Richard didn't show up on the doorstep like a lost kitten. He didn't walk in and say "Hey guys, I just had a flash of inspiration that Byron Jones should play corner!".

Dallas recruited him because his scheme and technique were perfect for Jones, Awuzie and Brown. Garrett was part of the process to recruit him once he left Seattle, he wasn't the only one obviously but at a minimum he agreed with it. People on this board were pounding the table to move Jones to corner the year before, I wasn't one of them but it was obviously the right move.

You can't say Garrett is a "walk around coach" to blame him for everything bad but then ignore everything that went right. Garrett is managing the process and there have been plenty of problems - but the overall trend is over a young team that is going to the playoffs and getting better.

 

[Brax]

We all want a wife with the bank account that Brady's wife has, but that isn't really how things work.

You know nothing about the dynamics of TB's contract and he is $$$ with out his wife, the real reality is he will accept less so he get to visit the super bowl pretty often and gets good players around him. You and others need to stop with the wife thing, it has absolutely nothing to do with his contracts, it has never been mentioned in New England at any level what you spew. You are truly ignorant if you believe Brady's wife earnings impact TB negotiations for a contract.

 

[Kaiser]

You know nothing about the dynamics of TB's contract and he is $$$ with out his wife, the real reality is he will accept less so he get to visit the super bowl pretty often and gets good players around him. You and others need to stop with the wife thing, it has absolutely nothing to do with his contracts, it has never been mentioned in New England at any level what you spew. You are truly ignorant if you believe Brady's wife earnings impact TB negotiations for a contract.

Thanks, Mrs Brady. We appreciate you for clearing that up.

 

[Brax]

Thanks, Mrs Brady. We appreciate you for clearing that up.

jealous rascal aren't you, haven't sniffed a championship game in 23 years much less a super bowl. Blame it on everyone but the Jones boys it's Brady's wife fault, too funny, you hit the bottle early today didn't you.

 

[Kaiser]

jealous rascal aren't you, haven't sniffed a championship game in 23 years much less a super bowl. Blame it on everyone but the Jones boys it's Brady's wife fault, too funny, you hit the bottle early today didn't you.

If I drank a quart of vodka before Noon I would still write more intelligent posts than you do.

 

[ESisback]

You know nothing about the dynamics of TB's contract and he is $$$ with out his wife, the real reality is he will accept less so he get to visit the super bowl pretty often and gets good players around him. You and others need to stop with the wife thing, it has absolutely nothing to do with his contracts, it has never been mentioned in New England at any level what you spew. You are truly ignorant if you believe Brady's wife earnings impact TB negotiations for a contract.

People bring it up because it’s provocative, which sell$. Brady’s wife’s money DOES actually impact the Pats. Brady STILL makes TONS of $$ (his Pats contract is fly poop) with endorsements. But it’s all gravy because of the little woman’s treasure trove. Makes it easier to be amiable when you’re richer than God. He can Let Hoodie make them consistent winners.