Only in Dallas do they need so many leaders

[Trendnet]

How many "leaders" does a team need?

How many true "leaders" do the Super Bowl champs have? I count one - Tom Brady. The rest are replaceable parts who either get with the program or get lost.

How many guys does it take for a team to be successful? The Cowboys apparently need a whole lot, and all of that leadership somehow doesn't manage to keep the screwups from screwing up again and again and again, does it?

Only our Cowboys need to pay all of these players to be "team leaders". Players who don't actually contribute on the field when it truly matters, but cheerleaders who 'say' the right things, but can't actually 'do' those right things, or not anymore anyway.

I've never seen a team that apparently has such a leadership void that they need to overpay half of their roster because they're 'leaders'.

You certainly have a knack for coming up with fantasy scenarios, then raging against it.

Kudos.

 

[Stash]

You certainly have a knack for coming up with fantasy scenarios, then raging against it.

Kudos.

Feel free to elaborate on that.

Or is this simply an attempted hit and run with absolutely nothing behind it?

 

[Kaiser]

The guy who can't bear to hear that this team is doing somerhingwrong is being referred to as "triggered". If you're going to try to paint with that broad brush, at least bother to do so accurately.

I can bear to hear the team is doing something wrong because I say it all the time. Linehan sucked, TWill sucked, Allen Hurns sucked until he was 4th on the depth chart.

But its just silly to move the goalposts to the level of "these players (who I've never met) are losers with no leadership until we win the Super Bowl" especially when follow it up by claiming its a logical argument rather than a tantrum.

 

[Kaiser]

The only "utter nonsense" comes from fans like you who can't bear to watch the stupid things their team does, and why their favorite team no longer wins anything.

When the team was 3-5 I said they would still win 7 or 8 games and you had a similar tantrum to this thread. You offered to make an Avatar bet, which I should have done since they won ten games.

 

[Big_D]

Like re-signing Terrance Williams. Sure they woke up after the fact, but they will always make the sentimental decision. Considering the production or lack thereof, they can get it at a much cheaper rate. Witten, Lee, Hurns, Crawford, Beasley etc... should be times up. Why did Crawford ever get that deal to begin with? Head scratching decisions by the front office as usual. Perhaps they need a few more leaders to make up for the HC? It's a mystery?

 

[dallasdave]

I'm triggered.

Wait wan't that the Lone Ranger's Horse

 

[Kaiser]

Like re-signing Terrance Williams. Sure they woke up after the fact, but they will always make the sentimental decision.

Resigning TWill was a mistake but it was understandable. Williams had averaged 44 catches a year for 4 years and signed for a contract that was a bit below market after another team backed out on an offer.

Signings like Nolan Carroll were disasters. TWill and guys like Cedric Thornton were realistic gambles that didn't work out.

 

[Stash]

I can bear to hear the team is doing something wrong because I say it all the time. Linehan sucked, TWill sucked, Allen Hurns sucked until he was 4th on the depth chart.

But its just silly to move the goalposts to the level of "these players (who I've never met) are losers with no leadership until we win the Super Bowl" especially when follow it up by claiming its a logical argument rather than a tantrum.

It’s too bad that that’s how you completely misinterpreted the point of the thread.

 

[Stash]

When the team was 3-5 I said they would still win 7 or 8 games and you had a similar tantrum to this thread. You offered to make an Avatar bet, which I should have done since they won ten games.

Sure. That’s. Completely the same thing. Is that the well you run to whenever you’re losing an argument now?

 

[Kaiser]

It’s too bad that that’s how you completely misinterpreted the point of the thread.

You mean the four page thread where no one has agreed with you?

 

[Vanilla2]

Long offseason engaged

 

[Stash]

You mean the four page thread where no one has agreed with you?

Look again. The only people having trouble handling the harsh truth are a few homers. The first post has at least 12 likes from people who agree with me.

How about you? How popular are your own posts here?

Back up your claim.

 

[Big_D]

Resigning TWill was a mistake but it was understandable. Williams had averaged 44 catches a year for 4 years and signed for a contract that was a bit below market after another team backed out on an offer.

Signings like Nolan Carroll were disasters. TWill and guys like Cedric Thornton were realistic gambles that didn't work out.

There were too many needs and too much money spent at WR. You have to find that production cheaper and let players walk. Weird how they refuse to spend big in free agency but can also never let anyone go? That was a prime situation to move a guy up the ladder maybe develop a player and get him involved for just under 3 catches a game.

 

[Kaiser]

How about you? How popular are your own posts here?

Back up your claim.

I could 9 likes on my posts in this thread and anti-trolling is never as popular as original troll OPs are.

So there.

 

[Kaiser]

There were too many needs and too much money spent at WR. You have to find that production cheaper and let players walk. Weird how they refuse to spend big in free agency but can also never let anyone go? That was a prime situation to move a guy up the ladder maybe develop a player and get him involved for just under 3 catches a game.

Totally agree. The guy I was pounding the table for was Alshon Jeffrey and I would argue Philly doesn't get their ring if he signs with Dallas instead of Philly.

It is Monday Morning QB'ing though, Jeffrey only signed in Philly on a pillow contract after he got frozen out of the market a bit.

 

[Stash]

I could 9 likes on my posts in this thread and anti-trolling is never as popular as original troll OPs are.

So there.

Nice try.

 

[Big_D]

Totally agree. The guy I was pounding the table for was Alshon Jeffrey and I would argue Philly doesn't get their ring if he signs with Dallas instead of Philly.

It is Monday Morning QB'ing though, Jeffrey only signed in Philly on a pillow contract after he got frozen out of the market a bit.

I was hoping to put that towards some defense. Safety, LB, CB, DT? All needed at the time. Blowing that contract on their 5th option in the passing game is a luxury they really didn't have.

 

[DHCBF66]

How many "leaders" does a team need?

How many true "leaders" do the Super Bowl champs have? I count one - Tom Brady. The rest are replaceable parts who either get with the program or get lost.

How many guys does it take for a team to be successful? The Cowboys apparently need a whole lot, and all of that leadership somehow doesn't manage to keep the screwups from screwing up again and again and again, does it?

Only our Cowboys need to pay all of these players to be "team leaders". Players who don't actually contribute on the field when it truly matters, but cheerleaders who 'say' the right things, but can't actually 'do' those right things, or not anymore anyway.

I've never seen a team that apparently has such a leadership void that they need to overpay half of their roster because they're 'leaders'.

You ask how many leaders a team needs then go on to bring up guys like Crawford and Hurns and how much they make, I do not see either of them as a "leader". Sean Lee when healthy is a "leader". There was a time not so long ago we could not win a game without Lee on the field. Witten wasn't even around last year and signed for peanuts to return. So is this thread about too many leaders or players you think are overpaid?

 

[xwalker]

No. He isn’t. Not anywhere else. Not even truly for this team. ‘Starting’ defensive ends aren’t taken off the field on passing downs. But waste more time defending that too.



Because he’s not a real starter. You know it I know it. Now go defend 5 sacks from YOUR STARTER.



Even worse.




Nobody does this. That is a LIE. You ‘bloviate’ trying to defend your team’s stupidity. NO SELL.

Crawford plays the most snaps on DL most years. The other years he was top 2 in snaps other than one year when he was 3rd.

Tyrone Crawford is not a problem. Not finding players to take snaps away from him is a problem.

In 2018 he started multiple games at RDE but still played the 2nd most snaps at DT of any DT on the roster.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Resigning TWill was a mistake but it was understandable. Williams had averaged 44 catches a year for 4 years and signed for a contract that was a bit below market after another team backed out on an offer.

Signings like Nolan Carroll were disasters. TWill and guys like Cedric Thornton were realistic gambles that didn't work out.

What the Cowboys typically do in free agency is sign affordable players at areas of need so they don't go into the draft forced to go after a specific position. Carroll was quickly made expendable because Dallas was able to get Awuzie and Lewis in the draft that year.

Thornton really wasn't a bad player here, just a bad fit. Turns out not all 3-4 ends can transition to 4-3 DT's.