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A. Would you rather our team take some chances and even though we might strike out every now and then, we are at least trying. Trading for Roy Williams, PacMan, and signing or resigning players such as TO, Barber, Romo, Witten, Flo, and Columbo to name a few. We only have 14 million under the cap and no 1st round pick. However, if players such as Flo or Columbo was out on the free agent market this year, due to the lack of quality tackles, they would be grossly overpaid. Point Im trying to make is were trying. Every move might not work out but at least were coming out swinging.

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B. Be a team like Philly who always lets their own walk away. They only really signed three high price free agents in the McNabb era and they are Samuel, Owens and Kearse if I remember correctly. The people they let walk are amazing Duce Staley, Troy Vincent, Al Harris, Bobby Taylor, Hugh Douglas, Jermei Trotter to name a few and soon to be added Brian Dawkins, Tra Thomas, John Runyan, and Lito Sheppard. Thats a core team right there of two eras. There is just no loyality on that team. So this leads me to my next point, today they opened up free agency with 48 million to spend and there isnt nobody to spend it on. Yeah, great job Philly way to save that money.(haha, I hate the Eagles)

For a team thats been to the championship game 5 of the last 10 seasons it befuddles me how their ownership never overspends to get over the hump. They wouldnt trade a 2nd for Tony Gonzlez this year because he makes too much money and they dont do the whole trading the draft picks thing. Imagine if Gonzelez was on that team they would of went to the Superbowl.

So, would you have Jerry Jones and his approach or Philly's approach. I know the Eagles went further in the playoffs then us over that time but fact of the matter is whether you finished 2nd or 32nd you still accomplished the same thing. Theres only one champion and theres never a good loss in the playoffs. In addition, Jerry at least gets us excited for upcoming seasons with the signings and trades I said earlier.(Owens, Pac, etc) Its something to look forward to. If it were flip flopped and Lurie was running this team we would come into this season minus Flo, Columbo, Owens, Pac(I know hes already gone), Canty, Roy Williams (would of never made the trade), Marion Barber(would of never resigned him for that type of money, they would be just fine with Choice and Jones) Henry, and Roy Williams(db). On top of this we would have 40 mil to spend and no one to spend it on. Theres would be just no excitement at all to me when you run your team that way. Like him or hate him Jerry Jones at least tries. He might not be right all the time but at least he takes a chance. opinions
 

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playmakers;2656605 said:
A. Would you rather our team take some chances and even though we might strike out every now and then, we are at least trying. Trading for Roy Williams, PacMan, and signing or resigning players such as TO, Barber, Romo, Witten, Flo, and Columbo to name a few. We only have 14 million under the cap and no 1st round pick. However, if players such as Flo or Columbo was out on the free agent market this year, due to the lack of quality tackles, they would be grossly overpaid. Point Im trying to make is were trying. Every move might not work out but at least were coming out swinging.

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B. Be a team like Philly who always lets their own walk away. They only really signed three high price free agents in the McNabb era and they are Samuel, Owens and Kearse if I remember correctly. The people they let walk are amazing Duce Staley, Troy Vincent, Al Harris, Bobby Taylor, Hugh Douglas, Jermei Trotter to name a few and soon to be added Brian Dawkins, Tra Thomas, John Runyan, and Lito Sheppard. Thats a core team right there of two eras. There is just no loyality on that team. So this leads me to my next point, today they opened up free agency with 48 million to spend and there isnt nobody to spend it on. Yeah, great job Philly way to save that money.(haha, I hate the Eagles)

For a team thats been to the championship game 5 of the last 10 seasons it befuddles me how their ownership never overspends to get over the hump. They wouldnt trade a 2nd for Tony Gonzlez this year because he makes too much money and they dont do the whole trading the draft picks thing. Imagine if Gonzelez was on that team they would of went to the Superbowl.

So, would you have Jerry Jones and his approach or Philly's approach. I know the Eagles went further in the playoffs then us over that time but fact of the matter is whether you finished 2nd or 32nd you still accomplished the same thing. Theres only one champion and theres never a good loss in the playoffs. In addition, Jerry at least gets us excited for upcoming seasons with the signings and trades I said earlier.(Owens, Pac, etc) Its something to look forward to. If it were flip flopped and Lurie was running this team we would come into this season minus Flo, Columbo, Owens, Pac(I know hes already gone), Canty, Roy Williams (would of never made the trade), Marion Barber(would of never resigned him for that type of money, they would be just fine with Choice and Jones) Henry, and Roy Williams(db). On top of this we would have 40 mil to spend and no one to spend it on. Theres would be just no excitement at all to me when you run your team that way. Like him or hate him Jerry Jones at least tries. He might not be right all the time but at least he takes a chance. opinions


Can I have a happy medium?
 

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Since Philly wins more than we do and basically owns us under Andy Reid's administration, I'd rather do it like them.
 

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Jeffrey Lurie is a cheap arse, thats the main difference. If he would actually spend some money on the team, they would probably have at least 1 championship by now.

Lurie reminds me of Bud Adams, another cheap arse owner. The Titans are like $30 million under the cap and they let Fat Albert just walk out the door.

That would be like us letting Ware walk.
 

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They probably would have won more than one championship. Remember from 99-02 the Eagles had one of the best, if not the best, defense in all of football. They lost in the championship game to the Rams(all 500 plus points scored that year) in St.Louis, 11-6. There offense was horrible and the front office always had the same quote about it after every season "we won many of games with that personnel in place, so why change." The Eagles could had been a dynasty but ownership wouldnt go that extra step. I know the Eagles have been further but all they do is tease you. At least Jerry wouldnt tease our fans, he would go for the tko.
 

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Making it to the NFC Championship game 5 times in the last 10 years, at the very least, would be far more favorable to what we've done in the last 10 years.

By a long, long, long way.
 

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BraveHeartFan;2657955 said:
Making it to the NFC Championship game 5 times in the last 10 years, at the very least, would be far more favorable to what we've done in the last 10 years.

By a long, long, long way.
And HOW many rings did all of that "success" get them...the same amount as Dallas, correct? I'd take JJ over Lurie anyday.
 

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BraveHeartFan;2657955 said:
Making it to the NFC Championship game 5 times in the last 10 years, at the very least, would be far more favorable to what we've done in the last 10 years.

By a long, long, long way.

Word up, home skillet.

This team needs cohesion in the organization as much as talent on the field. We are missing the former desperately.
 

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HomeOfLegends;2656606 said:
Can I have a happy medium?

Me too.

But using Philly as an example blows the whole argument up. Think about it...5 nfc champ games in the last 10 years to our zero. Pittsburgh also does not usually pay huge bucks for its free agents either...yet they have a couple of titles in that span. The reality is that they are managing their teams better than we are.
 

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To me, it merely shows that a good QB can cover up all the rest of your blunders. It's no surprise that Philly has done well with McNabb at QB no matter who is at WR. It's no suprise that Roethlisburger finally got Cowher his Superbowl win after 15 unsuccessfull years, and then once again with Tomlin. As long as Dallas has a healthy Romo, they should compete no matter who else we have on the team and I fully expect him to lead us to the promised land in the future, hopefully as soon as next season.
 

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DFWJC;2657995 said:
Me too.

But using Philly as an example blows the whole argument up. Think about it...5 nfc champ games in the last 10 years to our zero. Pittsburgh also does not usually pay huge bucks for its free agents either...yet they have a couple of titles in that span. The reality is that they are managing their teams better than we are.
As much as I hate to say it, that's an organization the we should mimic, one with a winning tradition, not the perennial losers in Philly!
 

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Even if Jerry chooses to go with Phili's approach, there is no guarantee that the team will have the same type of success as Phili has had so far. Different organization, GM, Coaching staff, atmosphere, culture, media exposure, etc.....
 

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DFWJC;2657995 said:
Me too.

But using Philly as an example blows the whole argument up. Think about it...5 nfc champ games in the last 10 years to our zero. Pittsburgh also does not usually pay huge bucks for its free agents either...yet they have a couple of titles in that span. The reality is that they are managing their teams better than we are.

Agree with this.
 

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Happy medium, as stated before is needed. This is not a black and white issue like most of you are making it out to be. We are not a cheap team and thats never what we are going to be under Jerry. If you can play you will get paid in Big D. Simple as that.

I think that philly puts there team through more adversity and thats why they do well. They have a few guys that anchor that team as well. Dawkins is one of them IMO. Letting him go will haunt them. Thats a mistake that our front office would not make. When it comes down to it. I would rather keep the players you have then letting them walk all the time.
 

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BraveHeartFan;2657955 said:
Making it to the NFC Championship game 5 times in the last 10 years, at the very least, would be far more favorable to what we've done in the last 10 years.

By a long, long, long way.


not a long way, if you have no chips to show for it. No way. I would rather suck and know than to be constantly teased.
 

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thechosen1n2;2658156 said:
not a long way, if you have no chips to show for it. No way. I would rather suck and know than to be constantly teased.

Wow. I completely disagree. If you are in the hunt, you always have a shot at that title. If you suck...which we do not, by the way...you have no hope at all.
 

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DFWJC;2658195 said:
Wow. I completely disagree. If you are in the hunt, you always have a shot at that title. If you suck...which we do not, by the way...you have no hope at all.


I never thought the Eagles could win the SB in any of those years... or any other year for that matter.

"never gonna get it, never gonna get it,"
"never gonna get it, never gonna get it,"
"never gonna get it, never gonna get it,"

woo woo woo hoo woo woo
 

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DFWJC;2658195 said:
Wow. I completely disagree. If you are in the hunt, you always have a shot at that title. If you suck...which we do not, by the way...you have no hope at all.

My thoughts exactly. The Eagles seem to always be in the hunt these past years and you can never tell what just might happen. As for us,where the hell are we at???? We cant even win a freaking playoff game let alone go to 5 NFC champ games. The BOYS need so show me something this year!!
 
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