Opinion: Tony Fasano

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Having seen a lot of ND games I have a high opinion on Fasano, I think he is a hardnosed player who knows how to get open and make the catch. Like most I was shocked with the pick it came as a complete suprise
 

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Well...think of it this way...Fasano is going to get on the field, which is more than we can say for most of our 2nd rounders recently...
 

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The Fasano pick reminds me a lot of another 2nd round pick Dallas made years ago.

Dallas was coming off a 3-13 season and selected a plodding slow FB by the name of Daryl Johnston.
 

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The thing I don't like about Fasano is his injury issues .... I hope this doesn't come back to bite the Cowboys like it did with Rogers (and maybe Burnett).
 

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Crown Royal said:
Not to be a homer to my boy, but exchange Crayton for Fasano, run 3 WRs instead of 2 TEs, and you still have legitimate threats.

The added benefit here is that you don't have to motion a WR to the end position to chip block, but A) it isn't as if either Witten or Fasano are prolific blockers and B) it isn't as if Julius can't be successful with 3 WRs out there.

And no, my head scratching has nothing to do with the obvious that Crayton will see the field less. It has to do with the fact that I could live with Hannam and Witten if we could have gotten better quality on the OLine.

I seriously hope that the front office felt that none of the OLine available in the second were very good, because if the value between Fasano and the best available lineman was close, and we chose Fasano, I have to feel that was faux pas.

Crown, I would say that Fasano while maybe not being a prolific blocker, is a pertty darn good blocker. You don't draw comparisions to Mark Bavaro by every major scouting group, if you are not a good blocker.
 

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Part of the concern over the pick is we are all fans and we all like to think we know better when the fact is we don't. I'll admit when the pick was made I was furious. I was SURE I knew who we were taking- even was showing off for my wife:

Me: Ok, now honey in a few seconds you're going to see the newest member of the Dallas Cowboys- from the University of Miami, OT, Eric Winston.

Wife: ha, ha you're wrong.:laugh2:

Me: %$#@!:mad:

I feel better now that I understand what we're doing but I think I'd like Parcells to talk about why TE and not OL a bit before I'll completely let this go. Winston would have made me feel a LOT more comfortable with our OL situation. But Fasano was not a reach and it appears we have big plans for him <shrug>.
 

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Like everyone else, I was puzzled by the pick. I also felt much better after we got the explanation. Those folks who remain unhappy have a reasonable case we could have gone in another direction. Our performance along the O-Line this season will tell the tale of who was right. My popcorn is ready.
 

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Not trying to pat myself on the back, but I thought TE was a possibility in the 2nd and said so in the chat room. Most dismissed it.

The fact is TE is important in Bill's offense. A good TE who can block, run and catch is important. With Campbell gone, we need someone else to step up and I think Bill wants someone who is a threat in the passing game.
 

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It was funny.. right before this pick I was sitting there thinking of who they might take and for some reason, the first name that came into my head was Fasano.. I'm not even quite sure why. I think it was because I had heard a lot about him and I was suprised that he was still on the board, couple with the whole BP love for ND and TE's.

Th eway I see it, he basically solves two major issues from last year...

1) Roster spot for a FB/Polite.. I think you'll see Fasano used a lot like Cooley in DC. In the process he also free Witten up from handling a lot of the blocking and let's him get more receiving opportunities.

2) Teams can't overload one side... With two TE's that can block and have good receiving ability, defenses won't be able to overload to Witten's side, to remove him from the passing game and force him to block. If they do, then Fasano can work the middle of the field and vice-versa. This is part of what caused them to have Keyshawn play Quasi-Hback at times last year.

So basically you have... Fasano as an H-Back and Witten as a true TE... allowing them both to do what they do best.
 

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Dale said:
My reaction was the same. Why a backup tight end when we already have Hannam?

But not knowing that the Cowboys were planning on using a two tight end set, how could anyone be pleased with the pick initially?

To me, the question here isn't with the pick itself. To me, since we're starting two tight ends, this pick was a must. And he's a good talent, to boot. I think the quesiton is just how successful it will be ditching the fullback position and going fulltime with two tight ends. It'll be interesting to see if there's ever a time where we're regretting this.

But to your point, in hindsight, I think it's a good pick given the information we now know. It's like last year when we drafted all those DEs. Some were concerned we were overstocking at the position, but as it turned out with the defensive switch, we needed each and every one of them. At the time of the pick, though, clearly I was scratching my head.

If we actually go with two TE's, one a motion/blocker guy, instead of a FB, what it tells me is that Julius Jones is unlikely to be our starting RB...

1. I don't think Julius has the strength, vision, or patience to run without a FB

2. I think Barber is more the 1 back type who can find the crease, power through it, grind it out.

I have never liked the no FB set, and I don't think Julius Jones will like it one bit...look for Marion Barber to become the #1 RB....my opinion.

The biggest positive of the two TE set isn't really the balanced look...it's the pass protection, and I don't mean because the TE's stay in to block....sometimes they chip, but even when they release immediately, the OT has an easier block on a DE that had a TE lined up on his side. This will help our OT's.
 

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My only question, was Fasano predicted to go in the 2nd round? Honestly, after I heard the pick, I was thinking to myself...who the heck let Larry Reachwell into the war room???

I suppose the 2 TE sets explain the position pick...but I am still wondering if he was rated that high...or if we could have picked him up in a later round.
 

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wayne_motley said:
If we actually go with two TE's, one a motion/blocker guy, instead of a FB, what it tells me is that Julius Jones is unlikely to be our starting RB...

1. I don't think Julius has the strength, vision, or patience to run without a FB

2. I think Barber is more the 1 back type who can find the crease, power through it, grind it out.

I have never liked the no FB set, and I don't think Julius Jones will like it one bit...look for Marion Barber to become the #1 RB....my opinion.

The biggest positive of the two TE set isn't really the balanced look...it's the pass protection, and I don't mean because the TE's stay in to block....sometimes they chip, but even when they release immediately, the OT has an easier block on a DE that had a TE lined up on his side. This will help our OT's.

Do you know how few offensive snaps Polite was on the field for last year? Pretty much short yardage and goal line only. JJ doesn't need a FB and he has largely run without one. If healthy, JJ is the #1 back.
 

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wayne_motley said:
If we actually go with two TE's, one a motion/blocker guy, instead of a FB, what it tells me is that Julius Jones is unlikely to be our starting RB...

1. I don't think Julius has the strength, vision, or patience to run without a FB

2. I think Barber is more the 1 back type who can find the crease, power through it, grind it out.

I have never liked the no FB set, and I don't think Julius Jones will like it one bit...look for Marion Barber to become the #1 RB....my opinion.

The biggest positive of the two TE set isn't really the balanced look...it's the pass protection, and I don't mean because the TE's stay in to block....sometimes they chip, but even when they release immediately, the OT has an easier block on a DE that had a TE lined up on his side. This will help our OT's.

I think you have it completely backward. Parcells had talked in the past about how some running backs prefer to run behind a fullback and others don't. Emmitt worked well with a fullback. Julius Jones really runs better without the fullback.
 

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wayne_motley said:
If we actually go with two TE's, one a motion/blocker guy, instead of a FB, what it tells me is that Julius Jones is unlikely to be our starting RB...

1. I don't think Julius has the strength, vision, or patience to run without a FB

2. I think Barber is more the 1 back type who can find the crease, power through it, grind it out.

I have never liked the no FB set, and I don't think Julius Jones will like it one bit...look for Marion Barber to become the #1 RB....my opinion.

Maybe.

However, with TO and now two legitimate receiving threat TE's that's going to give safeties and LBers fits. They simply can't key on the run like they did last year, and I think we're going to see a lot less run blitzing and safeties crashing down. That will create more space, especially on JJ's favorite delays, where he really is a better back then Barber.

Also, the 2 TE set gives us the option to run outside in either direction, where JJ should also excel over MB. Add in a LG that can now actually pull, and we may see more of that.
 

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wayne_motley said:
If we actually go with two TE's, one a motion/blocker guy, instead of a FB, what it tells me is that Julius Jones is unlikely to be our starting RB...

1. I don't think Julius has the strength, vision, or patience to run without a FB

2. I think Barber is more the 1 back type who can find the crease, power through it, grind it out.

I have never liked the no FB set, and I don't think Julius Jones will like it one bit...look for Marion Barber to become the #1 RB....my opinion.

The biggest positive of the two TE set isn't really the balanced look...it's the pass protection, and I don't mean because the TE's stay in to block....sometimes they chip, but even when they release immediately, the OT has an easier block on a DE that had a TE lined up on his side. This will help our OT's.

I was watching local Dallas news last night and someone dont remember who (Babe Laughenberg?) said that Julius Jones did not like having a FB in front of him.

Take that for what it is worth, but someone did say that last night on one of the local sports media outlets.
 

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dboyz said:
Not trying to pat myself on the back, but I thought TE was a possibility in the 2nd and said so in the chat room. Most dismissed it.
Yeah, I posted the same thing on another board ... And got pasted for it. :)
 

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BPA is the way to go. when we draft for need we end up with Quincy Carter and Dwayne Goodrich.
 

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wayne_motley said:
If we actually go with two TE's, one a motion/blocker guy, instead of a FB, what it tells me is that Julius Jones is unlikely to be our starting RB...

1. I don't think Julius has the strength, vision, or patience to run without a FB

2. I think Barber is more the 1 back type who can find the crease, power through it, grind it out.

I have never liked the no FB set, and I don't think Julius Jones will like it one bit...look for Marion Barber to become the #1 RB....my opinion.

The biggest positive of the two TE set isn't really the balanced look...it's the pass protection, and I don't mean because the TE's stay in to block....sometimes they chip, but even when they release immediately, the OT has an easier block on a DE that had a TE lined up on his side. This will help our OT's.

Some of his best runs have been from the single back formation. Not having a FB has not hurt him at all.
 

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wayne_motley said:
If we actually go with two TE's, one a motion/blocker guy, instead of a FB, what it tells me is that Julius Jones is unlikely to be our starting RB...

1. I don't think Julius has the strength, vision, or patience to run without a FB

2. I think Barber is more the 1 back type who can find the crease, power through it, grind it out.

I have never liked the no FB set, and I don't think Julius Jones will like it one bit...look for Marion Barber to become the #1 RB....my opinion.

Julius averaged 4.8 yards per carry from one-back sets last year and 5.9 yards per carry as a rookie. For his career, he has 135 carries for 718 yards (5.32 ypc) out of a one-back set. And Barber averaged 5.1 per carry from a one-back set last year.

I don't know how many (if any) of those were two-tight end, one-back carries, but both backs seem to do better without a fullback.
 
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