Opponents' Touchdowns

[AdamJT13]

So, maybe I do.

Maybe I expect a good defense to step up when they need to. Maybe I think they shouldn't get beat during crunch time but once in a blue moon.

Shoot me.

All I saw in the Giant and Philly games was our defense giving up either long drives, or long plays.....

Try to cover for them if you want. I figured most on here would. But something's not right with our defense.

Yeah, they're not perfect. Shoot them.

 

[Bizwah]

Yeah, they're not perfect. Shoot them.

I guess I just expect more from them than you.

It seems you expected them to be a good defense.

I was expecting them to take the next step and be dominating.

 

[DipChit]

this unit should be capable of putting the team on its back and "winning" games, and it doesnt do that

David

Keep dreaming. For one thing you dont see more than 1 or 2 D's capable of doin that in the league at any one time in the first place. And those that are usually can only keep it up for a year or so anyway from the standpoint of winning anything meaningful from it. Ask the '85 Bears or '00 Ravens. Most all the rest are decent one week and not so decent the next. Or flat out terrible all the time.

This team isnt going to accomplish anything until the O becomes more consistent. No not dominating.. just like the D doesnt have to be flat out dominating.

But the O has been terribly inconsistent going back a long time. Last year, scoring 14 or less in 5 out of the last 6 road games. This year scoring 17 or less in 2 out of 3 road games. Now we're even having issues with that at home. 3 against the Texans in a half and 7 against the Giants.

But sure, if a person expected a wrecking crew of a D that just held everyone to 10 or less every week I guess they'd be disappointed. Just like those that thought the offense would light it up like a pinball machine every week for whatever reasons.

 

[AdamJT13]

Uhhh......that's what I just said.

And you think it's realistic to expect perfection?

If I remember correctly, we also allowed them to easily drive down the field several times. What's the excuse for that?

We let the Jaguars score one touchdown when they started on their own side of the field. There's no excuse needed for that. Unless you expect perfection, that is.

Do you not see a pattern here?

Yeah, I see the defense stepping up to make stops in critical situations, only to have the offense blow it with turnover after turnover.

Maybe you just don't pay attention well.

Or maybe you don't.

Sure our defense has "stepped it up" a few times...they should.

And yet you blast them for the rare instances when they don't. Again, you expect perfection.

Take this game for instance.... Was it Bledsoe's fault that the defense gave up multiple 20+ yard plays? Was it Bledsoe's fault that Hank "Freakin" Baskett went 80+ yards for a TD? ... But did you not see how we gave up a huge play to start the game?

So now you want perfection for all 60 minutes, not just in crunch time?

What about those times in the second half where the Giants basically marched down the field on our defense?

What, you mean the ONE time that happened? In the second half, the Giants had five possessions -- a 14-yard drive, a 68-yard drive, a minus-8 yard drive, a 34-yard drive and an 11-yard drive.

If we want this team to be a playoff caliber team, then the defense has to be DARN near perfect in those situations.

I disagree. We could improve some on defense, of course (such as not having Watkins allow long passes). But mostly we need the offense to stop turning the ball over in crucial situations, costing us points, giving the other team points or both.

Our defense is good enough to be in the playoffs. Our offense is, too, if it doesn't turn the ball over.

They should make the stops when they have to.....People like you try to give them a free pass from blame.

No, I just don't blame them for not being perfect.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Is the talent overrated?

most of the talent is young

our 2 starting DEs, Ware is 'raw', our FS is a rook

is the scheme bad?

the scheme is too reliant on our players winning their individual battles, but they're not, when you see all the LBs running into the Dline when we blitz, it's because the front-3 are doing a bad job of occupying blockers and creating a push, BP needs to let Zimmer get a little creative

are we poorly coached?

I highly doubt that, BP is one of the all-time greatest coaches, esp. in terms of D, but he does need to allow for a few more wrinkles, our players just aren't winning their battles, which a Parcells' D is heavily reliant upon, esp. Canty and Spears