Orlovsky - Fulfilling a First

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Fulfilling a First
Orlovsky gets the First Extended Playing Time of his Career in Sunday's Loss to Chicago
By Chuck Klonke
Detroitlions.com
October 5, 2008

QB Dan Orlovsky entered the game in thr second half after QB Jon Kitna suffered back spasms at halftime. (Photo: G. Smith)

DETROIT, Mich. -- Dan Orlovsky doesn't know what the future holds for his career as the Lions' quarterback.

That's up to coach Rod Marinelli.

But there's no question what Orlovsky would like the future to hold.

"That's the coach's' decision," Orlovsky said Sunday after his first extended duty for the team that drafted him in the fifth round of the 2005 NFL Draft.

"He knows where I stand on it. I would love to be the guy for this team. If Coach feels that the best chance for the team to win now is with Jon (Kitna) then I respect that. I'll continue to do my job and be prepared. Whatever Coach's decision is, I'll go with it."

Orlovsky thinks he's ready to take over as the Lions' quarterback if Kitna's back, which forced him out of Sunday's game at halftime, continues to bother him.

That wasn't the case a year ago.

"I couldn't have said yes a year ago, just from having sat and not really played in 24 months," Orlovsky said. "Just the process of being here since March, or February, the preseason and today's game. So today I can say 100-percent, without a doubt, yes, I can.

"It's a confidence thing but it's also I need to do my job as good as I can with the 10 other guys on the field. I'll be ready, no question about it."

Orlovsky had to face an uphill climb when he came into the game in the third quarter with Chicago leading 24-0. It's not the ideal situation for a young quarterback playing his first meaningful NFL minutes.

"I'm just trying to play every play individually," Orlovsky said. "My goal wasn't to try and score 24 points in one play. That's impossible. My goal was to execute every play, and if I didn't, then move on to the next play.

"I'll look at the film and see what I did right and what I did wrong and try to correct the mistakes."

Orlovsky was reluctant to give his performance a grade. He completed 13-of-23 passes for 97 yards. He threw one interception that was returned 26 yards for a touchdown by Bears' cornerback Charles Tillman.

"I can't really answer that," Orlovsky said. "That's for other people to decide. All I know is that we lost, and I didn't do enough for us to win."

He was glad to have a chance to see what he could do in the heat of battle. It was the first time he had been in that situation since he led the University of Connecticut to a victory in the 2004 Motor City Bowl at Ford Field. Orlovsky was the MVP of that game.


QB Dan Orlovsky entered the game in thr second half after QB Jon Kitna suffered back spasms at halftime. (Photo: G. Smith)

"You wish it was under different circumstances, but it was good," Orlovsky said of Sunday's game. "It's good to get hit, complete a few passes, even throw some incompletions. It reaffirms to you that, 'I can do this. I can play.' You can say it all you want, but until you do it in a meaningful game, you're not really sure."

Roy Williams was the favorite target of Orlovsky's passes.
"That's just how it worked out," Orlovsky said. "It's what (Chicago) was doing defensively and what our adjustment to it was."

Kitna told Orlovsky to be ready to go in at halftime because his back had tighted up, but Orlovsky didn't know for sure until the Lions got the football with 11:08 remaining in the third quarter.

"He said, 'I can't go. It's locked up on me.'" Orlovsky said. "I was excited, but at the same time, I knew what my role was -- to lead this team -- and I didn't do a good enough job of that today."

Orlovsky can't put a finger on the reason that the Lions have struggled offensively this season, especially because it seems like all the pieces are in place.

"I think things get magnified and it looks like a really bad offense at times, but a hit here or there, a play here or there, an adjustment here or there and we can be really good," he said.

"It's just a matter of getting the details of doing it for 65 to 72 snaps a game. Right now we're struggling at key points like third down in the red zone and things like that. I know it probably sounds crazy but we"re not far. Coach Marinelli always says the difference between winning and losing is a little pinch of the fingers and that's where we are right now."

Orlovsky is as stunned as anyone that the Lions are 0-4.

"None of us wanted to be in this position," he said. "We just have to look in the mirror, each of us, and figure out what we're doing right and what we're doing wrong. As a team we have to correct what's wrong.

"We're frustrated, sure, but it's a marathon, not a sprint and crazier things have happened. The guys that need to be here to change it are here. I'm confident that we can. It's like a snowball. Right now the snowball's not going in our direction, but we think we can change it."
 

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Such a baseless statement. Lets see when he can start a game and be inserted 2nd half down 24-0.

He can't hurt what Kitna and Lions have been doing 0-4.
 

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Nors;2317437 said:
Such a baseless statement. Lets see when he can start a game and be inserted 2nd half down 24-0.

He can't hurt what Kitna and Lions have been doing 0-4.

he does suck.
 

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Kid played a half - down 24-0 and you all knowingly say he "sucks". Did you watch him in college? Preseason? He beats out Stanton twice.....


Don't judge a young QB coming into a game behind for first time.
Signed Tony Romo
 

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Nors;2317706 said:
Kid played a half - down 24-0 and you all knowingly say he "sucks". Did you watch him in college? Preseason? He beats out Stanton twice.....


Don't judge a young QB coming into a game behind for first time.
Signed Tony Romo


Please direct me, Mr. Has Trouble Reading, where I said a thing about him sucking.

I'll wait while you read my first post, very slowly, so that you can see if there is anything in there that says I thought he sucked.
 

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Nors;2317706 said:
Kid played a half - down 24-0 and you all knowingly say he "sucks". Did you watch him in college? Preseason? He beats out Stanton twice.....


Don't judge a young QB coming into a game behind for first time.
Signed Tony Romo

he's not the next Romo.....
 

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Nors;2317706 said:
Kid played a half - down 24-0 and you all knowingly say he "sucks". Did you watch him in college? Preseason? He beats out Stanton twice.....


Don't judge a young QB coming into a game behind for first time.
Signed Tony Romo
Someone should tell Detroit.

When does Drew Stanton become the Lions' starting quarterback?

Circle Oct. 26, the next home game against Washington. It won't sell out unless fans believe there's a reasonable chance they'll see Stanton, who's coming off only his first week of regular-season practice in the NFL. He will gradually get more practice repetitions with the first unit, but it makes no sense rushing him, considering the next two games are at Minnesota and Houston. He'll need at least two weeks of steady practice. But the first step should be immediately demoting Jon Kitna to No. 3 quarterback. He's no longer of any value to this team, which obviously is rebuilding toward next season.
 

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Nors;2317437 said:
Such a baseless statement.

Well, let's see-- he has a career quarterback rating of 39.7, has completed less than 50 per cent of his passes, has a laughable 3.7 yards per attempt average, 0 career TDs and 2 ints...

But most telling of all, in 4 seasons with the comically bad Lions, he's only been able to even get into 5 games... that alone should tell you that yes, he does indeed suck...

Now, I'm willing to meet you halfway, and admit that it's quite possible that given an extended audition, he might not suck any worse than Kitna... but that's what I call damning a guy with faint praise...

You have the weirdest obsession with crappy quarterbacks, Nors...
 

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Hostile;2317852 said:
Someone should tell Detroit.

When does Drew Stanton become the Lions' starting quarterback?

Circle Oct. 26, the next home game against Washington. It won't sell out unless fans believe there's a reasonable chance they'll see Stanton, who's coming off only his first week of regular-season practice in the NFL. He will gradually get more practice repetitions with the first unit, but it makes no sense rushing him, considering the next two games are at Minnesota and Houston. He'll need at least two weeks of steady practice. But the first step should be immediately demoting Jon Kitna to No. 3 quarterback. He's no longer of any value to this team, which obviously is rebuilding toward next season.

there goes Nors theory
 

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Nors;2317437 said:
Such a baseless statement. Lets see when he can start a game and be inserted 2nd half down 24-0.

He can't hurt what Kitna and Lions have been doing 0-4.

It is also a baseless statement to claim that he is good at this point.

I find it comical that you think it is such a big accomplishment that Orlovsky beat out Stanton.
 

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Hostile;2317852 said:
Someone should tell Detroit.

When does Drew Stanton become the Lions' starting quarterback?

Circle Oct. 26, the next home game against Washington. It won't sell out unless fans believe there's a reasonable chance they'll see Stanton, who's coming off only his first week of regular-season practice in the NFL. He will gradually get more practice repetitions with the first unit, but it makes no sense rushing him, considering the next two games are at Minnesota and Houston. He'll need at least two weeks of steady practice. But the first step should be immediately demoting Jon Kitna to No. 3 quarterback. He's no longer of any value to this team, which obviously is rebuilding toward next season.


That could have been written by Drew Henson fans back in 2004 here...... Detroit needs to bring a real football guy in and cleanse out all these draft busts of Millen.
 

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Yeagermeister;2318218 said:
Orlovsky is no Ricky Santos :laugh1:

Orlovsky is a bigger pocket passer that would prosper in a West Coast. Very heady QB that gets the ball out and has good touch. I bet many have never seen him play if at all.

Ricky Santos is playing up in Canada and getting paid to play football. No shame in that and may take him a few years to establish himself. Santos has nothing to do with this thread.

Waiting word on starter - probably the Big O
 

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Nors;2318242 said:
That could have been written by Drew Henson fans back in 2004 here...... Detroit needs to bring a real football guy in and cleanse out all these draft busts of Millen.

Is this guy related to you in some way you are pimping him so hard and he hasn't done or shown anything to warrant it.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2318271 said:
Is this guy related to you in some way you are pimping him so hard and he hasn't done or shown anything to warrant it.

I still think he Santos and Orlovsky's agent
 

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Nors;2318263 said:
Orlovsky is a bigger pocket passer that would prosper in a West Coast.

OK, I'll play the game with you... you claim that he'd be a good fit in a West Coast offense, now explain why you think that... exactly what skills do you think you see that would translate well to the West Coast??


Very heady QB

"Heady" quarterbacks don't usually have a completion percentage under 50 per cent... and a truly "heady" quarterback would almost certainly have been able to get into more than 5 games in 4 seasons for the pitiful Lions...

Most of all "heady" quarterbacks don't throw FIFTY ONE interceptions in 1567 attempts in college... that's one int for every 30.6 pass attempts, which is WAY too many for an allegedly "heady" QB... and in the pros, that average is up to one int for every 22.5 pass attempts...

Here's a scouting report on Dan when he was coming out of college, I'll put the comments that directly refute your bogus claims in bold font... this is from SI.com:

NEGATIVES: Slow setting up in the pocket. Steps out of throws, which adversely affects his accuracy. Directs his passes and gets wild at times. Not always poised under pressure. Gathers before releasing the ball. Must improve his downfield accuracy. Performed poorly at the Senior Bowl and was worse at the Combine.

You claim that he "gets the ball out quickly", SI says that he's "slow setting up in the pocket" and "gathers before releasing the ball"... you say he's "heady", SI says that he's "not always poised under pressure"...

These are also not negatives one generally finds in a good West Coast QB... so again, you feed us your New England biased (for the readers, the ONLY reason Nors is riding Orlovsky's jock is because he played his college ball in New England, Nors apparently gets a woody for any player, especially any QB, that enters the draft that played college ball near where Nors lives) opinion of the guy, and expect us to accept it...

You'd think by now, you'd know I'm not about to let you get away with that crapola...

Ricky Santos is playing up in Canada and getting paid to play football.

Uhhhh, no, he's not... just went over to the CFL's official website, and he's not on the active roster, injured list or practice squad of any CFL team... he doesnt' appear anywhere on their stats section, either... their "Transactions" section says that Montreal added him on October 1st, so maybe the website hasn't caught up to that yet, but even if he has RECENTLY been added, that clearly means that he hasn't been playing prior to the 1st of October...

So it took him 13 weeks of a 19 week season to FINALLY crack the active roster... IOW, Nors, he hasn't been "playing" up in Canada at all...

No shame in that and may take him a few years to establish himself.

Yeah, if it takes you two thirds of the season to even make the active roster up in the CFL, you're probably a "few years" away from ready for prime time...

Santos has nothing to do with this thread.

Of course he does, he demonstrates to the readers who might be unfamiliar with your crapola that you don't have a flippin' clue when it comes to QBs... this of course calls into question your credibility when you start riding Orlovsky's jock...

Waiting word on starter - probably the Big O

Oscar Robertson is gonna start for the Lions??!? Man, isn't he like 65 now??
 
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