Orton with 46 attempts

[DFWJC]

I would not say by far. In the Vikings game, we only scored 27 points at home.

That's true..one game out of 7. But even that was 5 more and enough to win this one. The rest were all over 30

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

The Cowboys only scored 17 points against the Eagles in the first game with Romo playing.

 

[Roadtrip635]

46 pass attempts is asking a lot of a back up QB, even an experienced one like Orton. It doesn't matter how many passing yards he has if it doesn't translate to points. Orton did a solid job considering his limited reps with the first team throughout the season and while Orton has a decent arm, he has never been considered very accurate. He was off on some throws, looked bad on trying back shoulder passes, but that would be expected. The staff did a poor job in trying to mount a more balanced attack. The defense gave the offense numerous chances, but unfortunately were squandered.

Our defense did a pretty good job containing McCoy most of the game, but what happens? Eventually it starts to wear the defense down and holes open up and if they start committing to stop the run it gives more room for the receivers to work, but you have to be patient and use the run effectively. Instead we get what we got tonight and way too many times in the past, a one dimensional and ultimately, predictable offense. The stat sheet looks good with all the passing yards, but that one dimensional offense makes it harder to score when you need to. The current offensive philosophy will pad the stat sheet but not the WIN column.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

That's true..one game out of 7. But even that was 5 more and enough to win this one. The rest were all over 30

I think the more telling fact here is not the fact that we only scored 22 points. The more telling fact, IMO, is situational play calling. We have been horrible at it all year. I have no idea but at any point, was Murray tackled for a loss in this game? I can only remember the one play where Murray should have been tackled for a loss of about 7 but managed to break contain and get back to the original LOS. I mean, it was a great play to do even that. I think it's hard to make a case for not running the ball when you need one yard and you have not had your back tackled for negative yardage the entire game. Heck, you can QB sneak for 1 yard. No reason to throw the ball there IMO and it's been a problem for us all year. Heck, a problem for us since Garrett has been here.

 

[DFWJC]

I think the more telling fact here is not the fact that we only scored 22 points. The more telling fact, IMO, is situational play calling. We have been horrible at it all year. I have no idea but at any point, was Murray tackled for a loss in this game? I can only remember the one play where Murray should have been tackled for a loss of about 7 but managed to break contain and get back to the original LOS. I mean, it was a great play to do even that. I think it's hard to make a case for not running the ball when you need one yard and you have not had your back tackled for negative yardage the entire game. Heck, you can QB sneak for 1 yard. No reason to throw the ball there IMO and it's been a problem for us all year. Heck, a problem for us since Garrett has been here.

I really don't get it either.
At least 2-4 more games this year were locks with better play calling

 

[DFWJC]

The Cowboys only scored 17 points against the Eagles in the first game with Romo playing.

Road game. Apples and oranges.
Plus, we won by 14..which is always the bottom line

For whatever reason, the defense played the Eagles better than they did everyone else this year.

 

[NickZepp]

Once he got to 40 attempts I already knew the games was over and turned it off. Romo shouldn't be throwing it 40 times a game.

 

[IrishAnto]

Now we can eliminate Romo out of the equation of audibling out of called run plays.

Very true.
I think this game give us a good pointer to the real culprit.

 

[IrishAnto]

No, it didn't. It hit him in the back right shoulder. Could he have made a better adjustment to the ball? Maybe. But this is a HOF TE out there, I give him the benefit of the doubt. It wasn't a good throw.


I have zero idea what this has to do with Austin. It was another bad throw.

Note, I don't blame the backup QB at all for this, I blame a coach that decided to ride everything on the backup QB.



it was 3 points. It certainly should not have changed the gameplan, which it obviously did.


Just saying, in the grand scheme of important games lately, this was not his worst.



And at some point its time to start looking at the constants of this team that can't get the monkey off their backs. Hint: its not the players.

Hint: It all starts at the very top.

 

[IrishAnto]

Once he got to 40 attempts I already knew the games was over and turned it off. Romo shouldn't be throwing it 40 times a game.

A while back somebody posted the number of games the Boys won/lost when the QB had more than 35-36 attempts in the game.


It didn’t make for pretty reading.


Yet we’re still all to ready to abandon the run even when we have success with it.

 

[NickZepp]

To be fair to last night. We didn't run the ball that well. But you have to keep with the run. Most of Philly's runs last night weren't that good. But they popped a few good ones and McCoy had over 100 yards.

 

[NickZepp]

Very true.
I think this game give us a good pointer to the real culprit.

We are what Jerry Jones made us into. There's very little emphasis on winning games in the trenches.

 

[tomsanders921]

orton had 358 yards passing.

untimely pick.

all in all I think he played better than what romo would have

He had all day to throw against a bad pass defense. When we played these guys the first time, we could not pick up the blitz.

Orton had a clean pocket almost every pass play.

 

[SDCowboy]

***...Orton did his best Romo impersonation.

Didn't see him pull the win out, so no.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

He had all day to throw against a bad pass defense. When we played these guys the first time, we could not pick up the blitz.

Orton had a clean pocket almost every pass play.

I think the difference there is the way the game is called/played when Orton is in the game, as opposed to Romo. Romo has much more latitude in game situations. He holds the ball longer, he changes plays more often. Orton gets rid of the ball more quickly and I'm guessing he probably doesn't audible as much. That could very well be the reason he doesn't see as much pressure. Is it more time in the pocket or is it getting rid of the ball sooner? IDK....

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Didn't see him pull the win out, so no.

We're a 500 team for the past 3 seasons. How do you justify the whole pull the win out thing in the 24 games we lost? I think that this post is beneath you. Orton did not play a bad game, considering the circumstances. In fact, he played much like Romo did IMO.

 

[SDCowboy]

We're a 500 team for the past 3 seasons. How do you justify the whole pull the win out thing in the 24 games we lost? I think that this post is beneath you. Orton did not play a bad game, considering the circumstances. In fact, he played much like Romo did IMO.

He played nothing like Romo. Romo was 3rd in the league in TDs and almost last in INTs. 2INTs and a loss is a terrible game. Period. If Romo played that game, this forum would probably melt down. It's truly sad some people here hate Romo so much, that they honestly think Orton is in the same league as Romo.

 

[Crown Royal]

Now we can eliminate Romo out of the equation of audibling out of called run plays.

This is why I gave up on Garrett after throwing Romo under the bus after the Packer's game for checking out of a run. It is clear as day that this offensive system DICTATES that you are supposed to check to the pre-snap read every single time. Garrett wants a chess player for a QB, not a good team.

 

[Smith22]

Orton did not play a bad game, considering the circumstances. In fact, he played much like Romo did IMO.

If Romo threw those 2 picks and used our 2nd timeout with under 5 minutes to go, we would see 20+ Romo needs to go threads on the forum.

 

[SDCowboy]

If Romo threw those 2 picks and used our 2nd timeout with under 5 minutes to go, we would see 20+ Romo needs to go threads on the forum.

The Romo haters are out in full force now that Orton proved how valuable Romo is.