Twitter: Osa contract details

[Shannon1]

I agree with you AC that the Cowboys didn’t get a lot better but they also didn’t get worse by letting a decent DT sign with Washington or another rival.

Osa Odighizhua is a good, not great player. We need good players. But like you said we need more. I will believe we are better when the lazy FO PROVES they can sign some other good players in FA that aren’t their own.

3rd in QB pressure I would say that pretty good not good !great sign!

 

[atlantacowboy]

I agree this defense has a TON of work to do, and I'm not against trading Parsons either to get a haul in return. If they wanted to go the tear down route I wouldnt bash the front office at all, but its also clear they arent going that route. Part of me wishes they would blow up both sides of the football, but I get that isnt happening.

This is basically the same contract Ed Oliver signed when he was racking up 3 sacks a year. Why dont we call out Jalen Carter for only getting 4 sacks this year? OSA averages pressure in 3.02 seconds. Hes a quarter second slower than Micah Parsons. His average time to sack is rigth around 4.5 seconds which is right in line or better than many of the better interior rushers who are racking up sacks. Dexter Lawrence racked up 9 sacks this year with an average time of 4.96 seconds. Leonard Williams had 11 sacks this year at 4.55 seconds. Cam Hayward had 8 sacks at 5.14 seconds.

I think we fail to realize that sacks are somewhat random and heavily a team stat. Many of these guys racking up sacks are doing so because they have great coverage on the back end giving them that extra second. Some guys are rackup up sacks because they several players in the front 7 who can threaten a defense and demand attention. The Cowboys really have two....Osa and Micah.

I don't care about DTs and sacks. If he was stout against the run, I'd be all for signing him. To me, sacks are an edge rusher stat. Osa does not hold up against the run and these others guys do. Jalen Carter is a beast and nobody can run on Philly up the middle. Same with Ed Oliver. He doesn't get pushed around and makes running between the tackles very difficult for opposing offenses. Osa isn't that guy. I don't care about his average time to sack a QB if he rarely sacks the QB. Almost doesn't count in football.

 

[Coogiguy03]

I'll bill you later

Take it out of my mod check, you don't even want to know what the pay me

 

[thunderpimp91]

I don't care about DTs and sacks. If he was stout against the run, I'd be all for signing him. To me, sacks are an edge rusher stat. Osa does not hold up against the run and these others guys do. Jalen Carter is a beast and nobody can run on Philly up the middle. Same with Ed Oliver. He doesn't get pushed around and makes running between the tackles very difficult for opposing offenses. Osa isn't that guy. I don't care about his average time to sack a QB if he rarely sacks the QB. Almost doesn't count in football.

I will admit that Carter is a bit of an outlier. He really doesnt grade out well against the run, but he is also doubled at extreme rates. Ed Oliver though is basically another version of OSA. Undersized pass specialist that is pretty meh against the run. Regardless if you really prioritize old school run stuffers up the middle I can understand where you are coming from a little more. I dont necessarily agree with it as I think you need athletes that can get after the passer all over the LOS scrimmage in the modern era, but a difference is philosophy there is fine and makes your stance make more sense.

Where I would really disagree is the almost doesnt count in football ideology. Its true for the team, but its not always true for the individual evaluations. I'm going to judge a RB running behind a bad OL differently than I would the RB running behind Phillys OL. Same with a DL....Personally I dont think the tape on OSA is that bad considering the supporting cast and soft zone coverage Zimmer played.

 

[rags747]

So $52m at the minimum is his no matter what?!

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I don't care about DTs and sacks. If he was stout against the run, I'd be all for signing him. To me, sacks are an edge rusher stat. Osa does not hold up against the run and these others guys do. Jalen Carter is a beast and nobody can run on Philly up the middle. Same with Ed Oliver. He doesn't get pushed around and makes running between the tackles very difficult for opposing offenses. Osa isn't that guy. I don't care about his average time to sack a QB if he rarely sacks the QB. Almost doesn't count in football.

I am not saying Osa was perfect but I just do not get this position.

The context was a DL rotation of Mazi Joseph Watkins Golston Parsons Lawson and Kneeland.

Parsons ran upfield most plays. Early in the season he used his elite speed and quickness and speed to make up the ground but as the season wore on so did he and his performance. He ended up out of a ton of plays because of scheme.

Golston who is much better at DE and played well when Kneeland got hurt was forced to backup 3T most games. He was not remotely as effective at 3 as Osa there.

Kneeland was great when they finally played him but he was injured a lot missing just shy of half the season.

Mazi was inconsistent within and from game to game. He would follow a good play with being washed, he would follow a relatively consistent game with a trainwreck. He still doesn't know how to use his hands/feet, the timing, or recognition much less counters. That was better than the year before.

Joseph and Watkins could not get off the ball and were alarmingly easy to stand up and turn. They are corpses collecting paychecks.

And I do not want to think about how awful Lawson was. We all remember those massive runs off tackle. I guess you were staring down Osa handfighting a guard while the edge was getting crushed 7 yards downfield.

We have not even started on the LB but in all of that you thought Osa was a problem?

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Also "$13m of the ’27 base is guaranteed for injury and becomes fully guaranteed on 5th day of ’27 league year" is very nice to hear. A lot of the time that guaranteed money kicks in if the player is on the roster a year in advance. It should mean they would have an out on his deal after year two for a fairly small cap hit if they dont restructure him.

So true.....lots of contracts kick that money the prior year. In other words, the $13M of 27 base would become guaranteed on the 5th day of 26 league year.

They can move on from him before '27 season .........if I understand this right

 

[Hoofbite]

So if he isnt worth the money they cut in 2028 for about a 14 million dollar dead hit.

Yea, by the end of the contract they’ll have little dead money. Lol

 

[plymkr]

6 million dollar cap it vs a could have been 25 that's good!! Now get some more players with the money we just gained from Lamb's restructure and soon to be dak's

What does everyone think, good or bad????

I was against him getting 20 million a year but I’m happy with how it’s structured. So overall I’m excited about the signing. A week ago I wasn’t for it, now I’m excited about it. I still want to draft a DT though.

 

[Mikexike]

I am not saying Osa was perfect but I just do not get this position.

The context was a DL rotation of Mazi Joseph Watkins Golston Parsons Lawson and Kneeland.

Parsons ran upfield most plays. Early in the season he used his elite speed and quickness and speed to make up the ground but as the season wore on so did he and his performance. He ended up out of a ton of plays because of scheme.

Golston who is much better at DE and played well when Kneeland got hurt was forced to backup 3T most games. He was not remotely as effective at 3 as Osa there.

Kneeland was great when they finally played him but he was injured a lot missing just shy of half the season.

Mazi was inconsistent within and from game to game. He would follow a good play with being washed, he would follow a relatively consistent game with a trainwreck. He still doesn't know how to use his hands/feet, the timing, or recognition much less counters. That was better than the year before.

Joseph and Watkins could not get off the ball and were alarmingly easy to stand up and turn. They are corpses collecting paychecks.

And I do not want to think about how awful Lawson was. We all remember those massive runs off tackle. I guess you were staring down Osa handfighting a guard while the edge was getting crushed 7 yards downfield.

We have not even started on the LB but in all of that you thought Osa was a problem?

I honestly don't understand the hate... WE NEED BODIES TO ROTATE.... You put OSA on Phillys D line and he is probably TOP 5 in the league.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I honestly don't understand the hate... WE NEED BODIES TO ROTATE.... You put OSA on Phillys D line and he is probably TOP 5 in the league.

He would back up Carter so unlikely but Carter is All Pro.

 

[RonWashington]

Obviously he makes the DLine better by being back . The depth was paper thin at DT . Now that wouldn’t stop me from drafting a DT round one if it was BAP on the board . The DL & LB plus cornerback are thirsty for talent .

 

[dstew60105]

I've got 4.5 sacks for a DT whose only skill is pass rush. He sucks against the run. Thats not "minimal evidence". He didn't earn a new contract this size.

We should trade Parsons for draft picks. I'm very consistent in regard to how much I hate this defense and its personnel. No coach is going to walk in here and make this pig look good.

Under no circumstance do you trade Parsons. Good Lord

 

[Mikexike]

Under no circumstance do you trade Parsons. Good Lord

Exactly, Only way you trade parsons for me is if you didn't sign dak and go full rebuild.

 

[jazzcat22]

How does Jerry and Stephen re-signing one of their own players give us any hope in free agency? If anything, it gives them less money to spend. This is a 'running in place' move. The Dallas Cowboys didn't get any better today.

They have what, nearly 25 FA’s. As most teams. All teams keep some of their own. They need to fill a roster. This is not pre cap times. When a team can gut their players without salary cap impacts.

They just can’t let them all go, and go sign 25 new players. Many are low to mid level players. And to keep a core group they must sign some of their own.

Now will it be a repeat of last year, lose 15 players, signs 2. We will see.
Usually they keep about half or so of their own, up to last year.

 

[Sydla]

That shows a lot about you.

LOL, what?

Osa is a nice DT. He's not an elite or great DT. I think we are overpaying him.

And even in signing him, he's not a guy that can carry the DL by himself. He needs help in the middle. A focus this offseason should be getting some better DTs in here on top of Osi. He can't be the only "big" acquisition/signing at DT. How is that a controversial stance?

 

[CT Dal Fan]

This is already a more active offseason than last year. Remember when they didn't even talk to Lamb or Dak's agents at the combine a year ago? We all knew then what kind of offseason it would be.

Now they've already re-signed Osa, Goodwin, and Juanyeh Thomas (who was an exclusive rights free agent), created money with Lamb's restructure, and according to some touched base with Micah's agent (no real talks yet though).

They are actually doing something. Nothing groundbreaking yet because everything has involved players already in the building. But still, nice to see.

 

[Sydla]

I honestly don't understand the hate... WE NEED BODIES TO ROTATE.... You put OSA on Phillys D line and he is probably TOP 5 in the league.

There is no world that exists where Osa is a Top 5 DT.

Yes, we need bodies but in a capped world, you can't spend oodles of money just for rotational bodies. Osa is a nice DT but I personally do not believe he's worth what we signed him for. That being said, the structure isn't the worst so I can live with it as long as this franchise doesn't view him as the solution at DT and just gets slop at DT with him. They still need to get a good FA DT or draft one high IMO.

 

[thunderpimp91]

This is already a more active offseason than last year. Remember when they didn't even talk to Lamb or Dak's agents at the combine a year ago? We all knew then what kind of offseason it would be.

Now they've already re-signed Osa, Goodwin, and Juanyeh Thomas (who was an exclusive rights free agent), created money with Lamb's restructure, and according to some touched base with Micah's agent (no real talks yet though).

They are actually doing something. Nothing groundbreaking yet because everything has involved players already in the building. But still, nice to see.

Yeah its weird, but the Cowboys have managed to get us excited by doing the bare minimum that other teams do all the time lol

 

[CT Dal Fan]

LOL, what?

Osi is a nice DT. He's not an elite or great DT. I think we are overpaying him.

And even in signing him, he's not a guy that can carry the DL by himself. He needs help in the middle. A focus this offseason should be getting some better DTs in here on top of Osi. He can't be the only "big" acquisition/signing at DT. How is that a controversial stance?

Only two DT's in the entire NFL had more QB pressures than Osa last year. The Cowboys "only" made him the 15th highest paid DT. The structure of the deal means they saved $19 million by not giving him the franchise tag.

No, Osa is not prime Aaron Donald. But he is a reliable, ascending player and Dallas got him on a very team-friendly deal. We know Osa can play. Who is the 3-tech if he walked? Would we have believed in Dallas to not draft another Trysten Hill or Mazi to replace him?