OTAs, Canty, MBIII, Hamlin

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While I don't expect to hear much about what what on at today's OTA, we should at least be able to find out who all attended. Hopefully all rookies will be there & just about every vet except for either MBIII or Hamlin. Must admit it ticks me off; I wonder if either plan on attending any OTAs. Really don't see how Rosenhaus figures he gains any advantage by keeping either player away from the team. Assume both will attend the mandatory June minicamp; if not, "h" will break loose.

Canty's in the same boat as MBIII & Hamlin but he's been working out in the weight conditioning program & will be at the OTAs. Frankly, I think resigning Canty should also be a priority. He'll have a longer NFL career at an important DE position & really started coming on last year. If Newman deal close, hope we can get Canty next.

Also think TO should be a high priority; we won't have an effective passing attack w/o him.

As for MBIII & Hamlin, we gotta be real careful. If we lucky, MBIII might play as long as 5 years but there no guarantees. I want to see him carry the load a little more before he gets close to the big money he thinks he's entitled too. Don't know if we can afford keep Hamlin but would like too. Might be wise to hold off on resigning Hamlin until midway in the season when we can also see how Roy is playing.

Love Colombo & would certainly like to keep him but doubt we got enough cap room & besides that's why we drafted 2 OTs in 07 even is Marten being moved to OG. Wonder if that means McQuistan & Free are heirs to Colombo & Adams.
 

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Yea this is why you draft Mendenhall to bring MB3 back down to reality. With Felix you just are trying to support him all the chips are in his favor. Hamlin and MB3 can go suck a rail road spike they aren't elite players.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2087931 said:
Yea this is why you draft Mendenhall to bring MB3 back down to reality. With Felix you just are trying to support him all the chips are in his favor. Hamlin and MB3 can go suck a rail road spike they aren't elite players.


Yeah. Shame on them for DARING to try and make as much money as they possibly can at their chosen profession. How horribly, terribly, evil of them.

Remember that the next time you want a raise.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2087931 said:
Yea this is why you draft Mendenhall to bring MB3 back down to reality. With Felix you just are trying to support him all the chips are in his favor. Hamlin and MB3 can go suck a rail road spike they aren't elite players.

:starspin I couldn't help but wonder the same thing myself when we passed on Mendenhall and took Jones. I realize we took Choice a few picks later, but there seems to be a signifcant difference between Choice's skills vs. Mendenhall's. Felix Jones will bring more speed to the offense, and that will be a good thing, but I imagine Barber had a grin on his face, when we passed on Mendenhall though.
 

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BraveHeartFan;2087955 said:
Yeah. Shame on them for DARING to try and make as much money as they possibly can at their chosen profession. How horribly, terribly, evil of them.

Remember that the next time you want a raise.


Sounds like to me you are tryin to say this is a business:p:
 

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Something about mendenhall bothers me, I can't put my finger on it but he irks me.
I am glad we passed on him.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2087931 said:
Yea this is why you draft Mendenhall to bring MB3 back down to reality. With Felix you just are trying to support him all the chips are in his favor. Hamlin and MB3 can go suck a rail road spike they aren't elite players.

Please stop. Just go be a Titans fan already, holy crap.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2087931 said:
Yea this is why you draft Mendenhall to bring MB3 back down to reality. With Felix you just are trying to support him all the chips are in his favor. Hamlin and MB3 can go suck a rail road spike they aren't elite players.

Why a railroad spike? Much different than the traditional apparatuses that folks request one to suck.
 

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Actually I believe Hamlin in particular CANNOT participate in OTA's under his current status even if he wanted to.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2087931 said:
Yea this is why you draft Mendenhall to bring MB3 back down to reality. With Felix you just are trying to support him all the chips are in his favor. Hamlin and MB3 can go suck a rail road spike they aren't elite players.

** FYI **

Mendenhall has not proven anything in the NFL. He proved he can carry the load for 1 season in college.

IMO Felix has more upside than Mendenhall.
 

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viman96;2087988 said:
** FYI **

Mendenhall has not proven anything in the NFL. He proved he can carry the load for 1 season in college.

IMO Felix has more upside than Mendenhall.

His comments have nothing to do with Mendenhall, they have to do with his Chris Johnson crush and his hatred of Felix Jones.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2087931 said:
Yea this is why you draft Mendenhall to bring MB3 back down to reality. With Felix you just are trying to support him all the chips are in his favor. Hamlin and MB3 can go suck a rail road spike they aren't elite players.

Choice and Jones could make a fine combo. Choice is a workhorse that can pound the ball, and Jones gives you that change of pace and can be an all around threat on the field like say that punk*** in Philly ;)
 

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THEHEREAFTER;2087987 said:
Actually I believe Hamlin in particular CANNOT participate in OTA's under his current status even if he wanted to.
Any player who has not signed his tendered offer has to sit this one out.
 

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Note I never said either Hamlin or MBIII didn't have a right to get as much as they can so stop the foolishness accusation. BTW: When I was working and asked for a raise, I didn't then go home or elsewhere (refusing to be at my place of employment) while my boss considered my request. In fact I'd continued to work even harder to reinforce how productive a worker & team player I could be. Hamlin & MBIII wanted raises & are staying away from work.

Canty as a RFA is in the same boat as MBIII but he chose to participate in our weight conditioning program & attend the OTAs which frankly is the method I adopted. It's just 2 different ways to handle the same situation & frankly I prefer Canty's. Since I think Canty took a step up last year, I'm all for resigning him sooner rather then later. After all, Canty doesn't lose anything by participating in the team's workouts, etc. I like him for taking that stance.

BTW: My methods must have been successful. I got several raises over the years & was able to retire at 50 with full benefits & other perks; now live in sunny Florida & not the cold northeast.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2087931 said:
Yea this is why you draft Mendenhall to bring MB3 back down to reality. With Felix you just are trying to support him all the chips are in his favor. Hamlin and MB3 can go suck a rail road spike they aren't elite players.

Wow....nothing like putting the cart before the horse. Let's allow this play out.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2087931 said:
Yea this is why you draft Mendenhall to bring MB3 back down to reality. With Felix you just are trying to support him all the chips are in his favor. Hamlin and MB3 can go suck a rail road spike they aren't elite players.

Felix Jones is a better back than Mendenhall so he will bring Barber down to reality soon enough. It isn't the back that was drafted that is the biggest factor, it is getting Rosenhaus's delusioned opinions out of Barber's ear.
 

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nyc;2087998 said:
Choice and Jones could make a fine combo. Choice is a workhorse that can pound the ball, and Jones gives you that change of pace and can be an all around threat on the field like say that punk*** in Philly ;)

Mad props for the Gary Gygax tribute. You probably saw the headline when he died 'Gygax: saving throw, failed.' Good stuff.
 

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stealth;2087970 said:
Something about mendenhall bothers me, I can't put my finger on it but he irks me.
I am glad we passed on him.

I can tell you exactly what it is. He could not beat out a guy for 2 years that didn't even get drafted. During those years he did not work hard to improve. He was handed the job by default last year and played well, but for only one year. Felix, on the other hand, excelled for at least 3 years and had he gone to another school would have been the unquestioned starter, put up ungodly numbers, and been a top 3 pick. Put 7-8 pounds of muscle on him over the next year or two and he certainly will be big enough to carry the full load.
 

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sago1;2088011 said:
When I was working and asked for a raise, I didn't then go home or elsewhere (refusing to be at my place of employment) while my boss considered my request. In fact I'd continued to work even harder to reinforce how productive a worker & team player I could be.
Somehow I don't think those players have the time to screw around with their contracts with injuries and all. In one play, a player can end his career. I don't think we can say the same for our jobs. We have all the time in the world to prove ourselves.

Plus, these guys are extremely wanted through out the league. They know the games to play to force the "greedy" owners to cough up the $$$$. If we were them, we'd do the same thing. It's negotiations/business but unfortunately the fan doesn't care about their personal gain, we only care about seeing them play.
 

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BlueStar II;2087956 said:
I realize we took Choice a few picks later, but there seems to be a signifcant difference between Choice's skills vs. Mendenhall's.

If their college careers are any indication, there is a big difference between Choice and Mendenhall... Choice will give everything he has plus some for the team. He will burst his heart trying to help his teammates win. Mendenhall will pout if he isn't given the lion's share of the carries.

IMO the only thing Mendenhall has over Choice is straighline speed. Time will tell, but I think Choice is as good a back as Rashard.

History shows us that RB's, out of all positions, tend to have good ones from the early, late and middle rounds. IMO, Choice is going to be one of those middle round finds. Mendenhall? Who knows, but it does bother me that teams questioned his heart and that some VERY RB needy teams passed on him (including Dallas).
 
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