Our defense will not be good until we get some topflight DT's in here

Cowboyny

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No matter what else we do, our D will not be good until we get some topflight DT's in here. Our DLine was repeatedly pushed back at the snap today. The ball carrier was mostly not touched until he was 2-10 yards down the field. This will absolutely not work.

Please, someone tell Jerry that run D starts w/ the DT's. If you are weak there, you will not have a good D.
This is why they need a top 10 pick this year and not take a skilled, offensive player.
 

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Stick your BS where the sun don't shine. I am correct.
Tvondre Sweat was there when you took Tyler Guyton. He went shortly after; he has an 80 PFF grade already as a rookie NT.

Bryan Bresee was the next DT off the board in 2023 when you overdrafted Mazi. He has 4 sacks in 5 starts thusfar

You probably don’t want to discuss not taking Tyler Smith in 2022, but Devonte Wyatt was the next DT off the board. He has 3 sacks in the 4 games he’s played for GB.

2021 you’re not moving off Micah, but you’d probably want 20/20 hindsight on Bossman Fat in the second round. The very next DT taken? Alim McNeil, Detroit Lions. You saw a bit of him on Sunday. He had an 88(!) PFF grade last year.

The players are there, it just take the willingness to select them.
 
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im not saying win at the trenches is wrong, BUT if the scheme or a proper coach isnt hired, htan no matter the talent you have, it doesnt do anything.

Under Garrett, his biggest problem is he couldnt always have the team working on all cyclinders at the same time. he would have one squad working great and the other two just get by.

You need a good couch with a scheme for the talent he has, not the other way around.

So your premise would only go round and round until the problem is solved.
And if you don't have the talent, the scheme doesn't matter. It does go round and round, and it always comes back to having weak trenches. And nothing will matter until that is fixed.
 

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Tvondre Sweat was there when you took Tyler Guyton. He went shortly after; he has an 80 PFF grade already as a rookie NT.

Bryan Bresee was the next DT off the board in 2023 when you overdrafted Mazi. He has 4 sacks in 5 starts thusfar

You probably don’t want to discuss not taking Tyler Smith in 2022, but Devonte Wyatt was the next DT off the board. He has 3 sacks in the 4 games he’s played for GB.

2021 you’re not moving off Micah, but you’d probably want 20/20 hindsight on Bossman Fat in the second round. The very next DT taken? Alim McNeil, Detroit Lions. You saw a bit of him on Sunday. He had an 88(!) PFF grade last year.

The players are there, it just take the willingness to select them.
Thank you, sir.

I've done this in the past, showing the DT talent that we continuously pass up, hadn't done it lately. We pass on DT after DT after DT going after shiny toys.
 

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Tvondre Sweat was there when you took Tyler Guyton. He went shortly after; he has an 80 PFF grade already as a rookie NT.

Bryan Bresee was the next DT off the board in 2023 when you overdrafted Mazi. He has 4 sacks in 5 starts thusfar

You probably don’t want to discuss not taking Tyler Smith in 2022, but Devonte Wyatt was the next DT off the board. He has 3 sacks in the 4 games he’s played for GB.

2021 you’re not moving off Micah, but you’d probably want 20/20 hindsight on Bossman Fat in the second round. The very next DT taken? Alim McNeil, Detroit Lions. You saw a bit of him on Sunday. He had an 88(!) PFF grade last year.

The players are there, it just take the willingness to select them.



Funny on the first one, as Sweat is a UT alumni.

Bresee was the guy I wanted if they were taking a DT in 2023. However, it's not he didn't struggle/didn't get playing time as a DT last year due to his run defense.
Maybe this year he turned the corner.
 

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And if you don't have the talent, the scheme doesn't matter. It does go round and round, and it always comes back to having weak trenches. And nothing will matter until that is fixed.
a good scheme works around the talent. Look at what Brady and Romo could do with second or third tier talent.

So no, somewhere it stops, and good coaching can elevate a team. Decent talent can push you above.

So stop trying to argue a bad angle.

Look at the talent we have on defense now? Whats it doing for us?
 

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a good scheme works around the talent. Look at what Brady and Romo could do with second or third tier talent.

So no, somewhere it stops, and good coaching can elevate a team. Decent talent can push you above.

So stop trying to argue a bad angle.

Look at the talent we have on defense now? Whats it doing for us?
Brady always had a top 5 OL in the NFL.

You are the one arguing a bad angle. W/o the talent, nothing matters.
 

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What the team needs before any quality DT’s is a new GM and a non meddling owner who doesn’t feel the need to land his helicopter in the middle of practice. Stuff flows downhill. Always has, always will. We have this conversation every day, of every week, of every month, of every year etc. This is a recording……..
 
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