Our Former Offensive Coordinator

[rcaldw]

Hindsight is 20/20, and no one can take issue with the job that Wade Phillips/Jason Garrett has done. But I would like to point out that Norv is having a pretty good year now in San Diego and I'm happy for him.

I would also like to point out that last night Jaws said of Phillip Rivers exactly what I said was the problem for the Chargers early in the season. Rivers has the arm strength to do fine down the center of the field but he struggles on the deep outs because of arm strength. That was my take on it when they were struggling to run Norv's offense earlier this year, and one of my fellow zoners said he had the arm strength to make all the throws.

So, I guess it is a happy day when Jerry Jones makes a move that results in our first home field advantage since 1995, and we get to see a genuinely good guy and former Cowboys coordinator take his team to the AFC West title and I hope he knocks those Patriots out.

Can't wait til the playoffs! Go Cowboys!

 

[burmafrd]

They are still not playing as well as they did last year. rivers is just not a top QB- he is a true bus driver. And their DC is just not as good as Wade was.
And Norv is just not as good a HC as Wade is.

 

[Hostile]

Imagine if we face the Chargers in the Super Bowl. Jerry's last 2 candidates against each other. JMO, but he'll look pretty good in my eyes if that happened.

 

[rcaldw]

Imagine if we face the Chargers in the Super Bowl. Jerry's last 2 candidates against each other. JMO, but he'll look pretty good in my eyes if that happened.

I agree Hos, and I disagree that they aren't playing as well as last year. Read the San Diego papers (online) and you will see that their players don't feel that way. They feel they are playing better than at any time last season. The players have finally bought into what Turner is doing and it is bringing success.

We, as Cowboys fans, can be proud on both ends of this deal. Jerry made the right move for his team, and a former coordinator of our team is proving that given the right situation he can do a good job.

Btw, the Commanders have sure flourished haven't they? How about those Raiders?

Like it or not, sometimes success as a coach depends on your situation.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Norv doesn't have the passion to be a good head coach.

 

[rcaldw]

Norv doesn't have the passion to be a good head coach.

And Peyton Manning and Tony Dungy don't have what it takes to win the Super Bowl.... Idiot Kicker

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

And Peyton Manning and Tony Dungy don't have what it takes to win the Super Bowl.... Idiot Kicker

By the same token then, Switzer didn't have what it took to win the Super Bowl... Yup.... put a bad coach with a lot of talent and automatically give him credit for the talent being good.

 

[rcaldw]

By the same token then, Switzer didn't have what it took to win the Super Bowl... Yup.... put a bad coach with a lot of talent and automatically give him credit for the talent being good.

I actually think you have to give Barry Switzer credit for what he WAS able to do. He had a tough task. Come into a situation where your owner wants to keep much of the current coaching staff, wants to keep running the same schemes and wants YOU to keep it all running right and out of the ditch. Switzer was the head coach when they went to the NFC Championship game, won the Super Bowl, and won a playoff game in his last season.

Did he have a very talented team? duh. But did that make his job easy? I would suggest it put him in a no win situation.

So, I give Switzer, credit. I give Norv credit. And I give Wade credit. (you know there are some who say that Parcells built THIS team.)

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

I actually think you have to give Barry Switzer credit for what he WAS able to do. He had a tough task. Come into a situation where your owner wants to keep much of the current coaching staff, wants to keep running the same schemes and wants YOU to keep it all running right and out of the ditch. Switzer was the head coach when they went to the NFC Championship game, won the Super Bowl, and won a playoff game in his last season.

Did he have a very talented team? duh. But did that make his job easy? I would suggest it put him in a no win situation.

So, I give Switzer, credit. I give Norv credit. And I give Wade credit. (you know there are some who say that Parcells built THIS team.)

Actually, I was one of the people who gave Barry a fair chance, and stood behind him when most of the Metroplex was hating. But that final year proved that I was wrong. That says a lot when the players give up on someone like that. Also, considering that there are so many players that say he was bad, I think thats a lot of evidence against him. On the same note, I gave Gaily and Campo chances too and actually think they were worst than Switzer.

 

[rcaldw]

Actually, I was one of the people who gave Barry a fair chance, and stood behind him when most of the Metroplex was hating. But that final year proved that I was wrong. That says a lot when the players give up on someone like that. Also, considering that there are so many players that say he was bad, I think thats a lot of evidence against him. On the same note, I gave Gaily and Campo chances too and actually think they were worst than Switzer.

Barry's biggest problem is that by the time he got to Dallas he was not going to put in the work necessary to be great. He just wasn't consumed with it anymore. The result was very poor discipline, and a poor work ethic in some areas that eventually eroded the effeciency of the team.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Barry's biggest problem is that by the time he got to Dallas he was not going to put in the work necessary to be great. He just wasn't consumed with it anymore. The result was very poor discipline, and a poor work ethic in some areas that eventually eroded the effeciency of the team.

But that's a lack of Passion -- something which I see when I look at Norv. I never got that feeling about Tony D. Say what you might, but I'm glad Norv didn't end up in Dallas. He looked horrible when with the Commanders.

 

[rcaldw]

But that's a lack of Passion -- something which I see when I look at Norv. I never got that feeling about Tony D. Say what you might, but I'm glad Norv didn't end up in Dallas. He looked horrible when with the Commanders.

Well, I'll just finish with this. They are on a 5 game winning streak, their players say they are playing better than last year, and if they win one playoff game Norv has done more with that team than their previous coaching staff did. Make of that whatever you want, I say it is a job well done.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Well, I'll just finish with this. They are on a 5 game winning streak, their players say they are playing better than last year, and if they win one playoff game Norv has done more with that team than their previous coaching staff did. Make of that whatever you want, I say it is a job well done.

Maybe, I'm just rough with Coaches. I gotta admit, I'm a bit nervous about about Wade's demeanor. I like a tough in your face coach like Jimmy, but I'm still giving Wade his chance, and so far he's a great HC.

 

[Rack]

They are still not playing as well as they did last year. rivers is just not a top QB- he is a true bus driver. And their DC is just not as good as Wade was.
And Norv is just not as good a HC as Wade is.

And there's not a dang thing wrong with that.

 

[windward]

I think San Diego's postseason fortunes depend on what seed they are. If they play Jacksonville in the wild card round, I doubt they advance. I do see them beating Cleveland/Tennessee. Either way I can't see the Chargers beating the Patriots/Colts on the road.

 

[Skinsmaniac]

Btw, the Commanders have sure flourished haven't they?

If you are implying that our lack of success during Norv's tenure was not in large part due to him, then you are mistaken. He has a brilliant offensive mind, but is not a leader. I look forward to betting against the Chargers in the playoffs.

/Also, Norv is a very good person and it's good to take pleasure in his success - that I would not question.

 

[rcaldw]

If you are implying that our lack of success during Norv's tenure was not in large part due to him, then you are mistaken. He has a brilliant offensive mind, but is not a leader. I look forward to betting against the Chargers in the playoffs.

/Also, Norv is a very good person and it's good to take pleasure in his success - that I would not question.

I'm not saying that Norv had nothing to do with the struggles. First head coaching stint, I'm sure he had a lot to learn. But what I AM saying is that Joe Gibbs has a pretty good resume and he hasn't flourished with Danny Snyder either. I think the problems in Washington are not just about who is coaching.

 

[Skinsmaniac]

I like where the Skins are heading. Snyder seems to be willing to let the big names walk now, while still signing over big signing bonuses which gives us a competitive advantage in the salary cap ... Let's face it, this game is all about the QB. If you have a good one, you have a huge advantage over other teams. We haven't had one for 15 years, but I think that Campbell has a chance to be good - a chance to turn into a Ben Roethlisberger type player. We are also starting to get some good depth with six rookies or second-year players having started and played well for our defense this year.

I know the typical response is to point out the big free agent mistakes we have made, but those are happening less frequently. I'm optimistic.

 

[Ben_n_austin]

They are still not playing as well as they did last year. rivers is just not a top QB- he is a true bus driver. And their DC is just not as good as Wade was.
And Norv is just not as good a HC as Wade is.

Yeah, I follow SD with a good deal of regularity. They did two things wrong, imo, letting go of Brees and firing Shotty...

I don't see them beating the Pats. But so what? We will.

 

[Ben_n_austin]

I'm not saying that Norv had nothing to do with the struggles. First head coaching stint, I'm sure he had a lot to learn. But what I AM saying is that Joe Gibbs has a pretty good resume and he hasn't flourished with Danny Snyder either. I think the problems in Washington are not just about who is coaching.

Gibbs built his resume in Washington. Gibbs IS Washington. That's why he's the coach, and for no other reason.

San Diego is stacked with talent. They just don't have a ..... coach.