Our Former Offensive Coordinator

[rcaldw]

Yeah, I follow SD with a good deal of regularity. They did two things wrong, imo, letting go of Brees and firing Shotty...

I don't see them beating the Pats. But so what? We will.

"Schotty's" first year 8-8
"Schotty's" 2nd year 4-12
"Schotty's" 3rd year 12-4 (first round playoff exit)
"Schotty's" 4th year 9-7
"Schotty's" 5th year 14-2 (first round playoff exit)

Yea, HUGE mistake

 

[rcaldw]

Gibbs built his resume in Washington. Gibbs IS Washington. That's why he's the coach, and for no other reason.

San Diego is stacked with talent. They just don't have a ..... coach.

Prediction, Mr. Moxie, San Diego has one more playoff win with Norv Turner, after this season, than in 5 seasons with "Marty Ball". Want to bet? So, I would say, if this comes to pass, they have a better coach in SD this year.

 

[Ben_n_austin]

Imagine if we face the Chargers in the Super Bowl. Jerry's last 2 candidates against each other. JMO, but he'll look pretty good in my eyes if that happened.

I know I keep chiming in my two cents in this thread, but I already think he looks VERY good as far as his hiring decisions. I think this assessment will be furthered when Garrett shows the character, loyalty and patience to remain in Dallas as Wade Phillips' protege.

Fans already love Red Balls. Think about the possibility of Jason Garret being our head coach!!! It's that much more enjoyable when you've got a company man out there making the difference--calling the shots.

On Wade Phillips, I reserved judgment on him because he did a fabulous job in San Diego.

I think we have take the one game at a time approach until we get a good lead, and then we change up our coaching strategy. It keeps us somewhat predictable, but NOT predictable. And predictability is something that reflects highly on your record. Dallas' record this year is in large part due to a great deal of unpredictability as far as play calling, personnel packages etc.


My honest opinion is that we were preparing for the Commanders last week... and if we beat NC then we beat NC.... But I'm almost certain that in Wade's eyes that the Washington game was holding precedence over NC. That's just an observation. But somewhere in there, I've drawn a conclusion.

Now, it doesn't matter. I think Romo will come in a plays the first half... then Johnson, and the remainder of the back ups come in.

Sure, going off with a win would be nice. But it'd be even sweeter to be injury free in the playoffs.

 

[Ben_n_austin]

Prediction, Mr. Moxie, San Diego has one more playoff win with Norv Turner, after this season, than in 5 seasons with "Marty Ball". Want to bet? So, I would say, if this comes to pass, they have a better coach in SD this year.

My doubts about Norv are deeply embedded in previous observations about his ability to come through in the clutch.

"If" this comes to pass (which it could), then saying that they had a better year would be a fair statement, in my opinion....

I'm not sure that I'd credit the win to Norv and Norv only. That could be a flat out spurious relationship, On Any given Sunday, as they say.

I would also say, that if that comes to pass, that it'd be a positive reflection on Shotty. The man could coach, imo. Whereas Norv is a good offensive coordinator, not so much a coach.

Hey, I'll be pullin' for the Bolts. I'm a fan. I just don't see it happening.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

I like where the Skins are heading. Snyder seems to be willing to let the big names walk now, while still signing over big signing bonuses which gives us a competitive advantage in the salary cap ... Let's face it, this game is all about the QB. If you have a good one, you have a huge advantage over other teams. We haven't had one for 15 years, but I think that Campbell has a chance to be good - a chance to turn into a Ben Roethlisberger type player. We are also starting to get some good depth with six rookies or second-year players having started and played well for our defense this year.

I know the typical response is to point out the big free agent mistakes we have made, but those are happening less frequently. I'm optimistic.

Those 5-11 seasons have taught me that it is all about the QB. I used to think you could get away with a great running back. Dunno about Campbell being another Ben Roethlisberger. Ben like gave the best Rookie QB performance that I have ever witnessed. In fact, I say he never was a Rookie. Campbell has potential, dunno if you guys should have played him this year.

 

[Ben_n_austin]

"Schotty's" first year 8-8
"Schotty's" 2nd year 4-12
"Schotty's" 3rd year 12-4 (first round playoff exit)
"Schotty's" 4th year 9-7
"Schotty's" 5th year 14-2 (first round playoff exit)

Yea, HUGE mistake

I'm saying to fire him in favor of someone like Norv Turner instead of someone like, oh, say, Wade Phillips, yeah, it's looking like a mistake to me.

Norv's career record reflects itself. I'd venture to say that his overall career record (without looking at it) is far worse than Shotty's.

Wanna bet?

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

It's also not like Norv never had talent in Washington. That one year, Snyder put all his eggs into one basket, gave Deon a ridiculous contract, and made up the team of a bunch of old well known. There was an article -- I believe in SI -- where they questioned Deon about looking around and seeing super stars to his sides, and how he felt about their chances. The Commanders were a talented team then; they weren't the best team in the NFL, but the same analogy can be used with SD. Then again, Snyder keeps trying to win by building an old team; you would have thought he'd a learned when he found out you can't buy a superbowl.

 

[Alexander]

Imagine if we face the Chargers in the Super Bowl. Jerry's last 2 candidates against each other. JMO, but he'll look pretty good in my eyes if that happened.

How so?

That would mean there are two talented teams who made it with coaches who had nothing to do with assembling said talent.

 

[windward]

How so?

That would mean there are two talented teams who made it with coaches who had nothing to do with assembling said talent.

Regardless there has to be something said for getting them there, something Schottenheimer and Parcells failed to do in thier tenures in San Diego and Dallas

 

[rcaldw]

I'm saying to fire him in favor of someone like Norv Turner instead of someone like, oh, say, Wade Phillips, yeah, it's looking like a mistake to me.

Norv's career record reflects itself. I'd venture to say that his overall career record (without looking at it) is far worse than Shotty's.

Wanna bet?

I won't rehash all the old arguments, but I would simply say that Marty's coaching record would be better than Bill Belicheats prior to New England too. Wanta bet? But I'll bet there aren't 2 people in the NFL who would say that Marty is a better coach than Bellicheat now.

You and I can keep arguing but the proof will be in the outcomes. If Turner's team wins a playoff game this year he will have done more in 1 season in SD than Marty did in 5. That won't be an opinion, that will be a fact.

I would also add that Norv Turner's head coaching record in SD is as follows:

10-5 (soon to be 11-5)
AFC West Champions

THAT is his coaching record in SD, not bad.

 

[burmafrd]

Norv failed HOW many times as HC?
rcaldw, obviously you are a fan of Norv.
Nothing wrong with that.
BUT if a certain DB falls down instead of running with a Brady pick where he gets hit and fumbles, SD beats the Pats. Schotty was THAT close to a big playoff victory. On the other hand- what playoff victorys does Norv have?
He took a team that arguably is the most talented in football and has that team- the one with the best record in the NFL last year- with 5 losses so far in a very WEAK division. He has done LESS then Marty has done so far.
AND your comments about what the players are saying- what they are saying is not worth much since no one wants to rock the boat right now.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

They're helped greatly by playing in the worst division in football.

Records vs. non-division opponents:

1. AFC South 30-10, .750 record
2. NFC East 27-11, .710
3. NFC North 22/16 .579
4. AFC North 18-20 .474
5. AFC East 14-22 .389
T6. NFC South 14-24 .368
T6. NFC West 14-24 .368
8. AFC West 13-25 .342

Pretty nice getting to play the Chiefs, Raiders, and now Broncos for six games. The Broncos came as close to quitting last night as I've seen a pro team do in a long time.

And for the record, Wade is a genuinely nice guy, too.