Our receivers cannot separate

[theebs]

Dez was clueless last night. At least 3x incompletions were all on him. He gave up because he thought he wasn't getting the ball. Both interceptions were on him.

the first interception was no ones fault. He just slipped? What can you do about it?

 

[kramskoi]

My guess is the receivers are getting sufficient separation, and the QB isn't confident enough to make the throw. On a 3 to 5 step drop, a receiver isn't going to be running wide open. The QB still has to fit the ball into a window.

We'll know more when the all 22 is released.

There's some smoke here. I think Prescott is reticent to throw to a spot. Sometimes you actually have to "throw a wide receiver open...like the play to Bryant versus Minnesota. He pushed Bryant to the absolute limit of his catch radius.

 

[kramskoi]

the first interception was no ones fault. He just slipped? What can you do about it?

The second one probably should not have been thrown, given the coverage.

 

[theebs]

The second one probably should not have been thrown, given the coverage.

Yep but I honestly can't fault him for giving dez a shot at a jump ball no matter who is there. Its what he does. It was just a bad play overall.

 

[Jenky]

My guess is the receivers are getting sufficient separation, and the QB isn't confident enough to make the throw. On a 3 to 5 step drop, a receiver isn't going to be running wide open. The QB still has to fit the ball into a window.

We'll know more when the all 22 is released.

Well said.

 

[kramskoi]

Correct on this one, there was one play in particular that Jenkins knocked the ball away from Dez that had Dak thrown him open on the slant its a reception and more yards after but he threw it late for the play and Jenkins made the deflection. This is what he needs to learn that Romo already does.

Yep...the playoffs is about throwing darts into tight windows...the biggest difference between Rodgers and Wilson on Sunday.

 

[MrPhil]

The second one probably should not have been thrown, given the coverage.

Maybe not, but it was. It also looked to me that Dak was throwing the ball to a spot (maybe a post-type pattern) but Dez adjusted the route by sort of straightening it out and taking himself out of position to make a play on the ball.

So yes, maybe it should not have been thrown but Dez's strength is supposed to be making plays on the ball. If I had a dollar for every time somebody made the statement "just throw it up and let the WR make a play for the ball" I could retire now. That is exactly what Dak did last night and Dez played the ball very poorly. That does not excuse the poor performance by Dak and the rest of the offense, which was downright.....offensive.

 

[Parche]

Well, you cant blame Dak for not be a gunslinger... Is just who he is, and thats part of the reason why he only has 4 INT. If you compare him with Romo, probably he would have 2x INT by now, but he maybe helps a lot more his WRs with his accuracy.

Then again, Daks a rookie, everyone expects him to improve with this in future years...

 

[StylisticS]

Sometimes you gamble in free agency and it pays off. Janoris Jenkins has been a beast all year. Completely locked up Dez all game. For the second time this year. This allows NYG to put DRC on Beasley which kept him in check. Outside of Denver, probably the best CB duo in the league.

I mean spending huge money on free agents like they did rarely works out but it has for them. It's frustrating too.

 

[kramskoi]

Maybe not, but it was. It also looked to me that Dak was throwing the ball to a spot (maybe a post-type pattern) but Dez adjusted the route by sort of straightening it out and taking himself out of position to make a play on the ball.

So yes, maybe it should not have been thrown but Dez's strength is supposed to be making plays on the ball. If I had a dollar for every time somebody made the statement "just throw it up and let the WR make a play for the ball" I could retire now. That is exactly what Dak did last night and Dez played the ball very poorly. That does not excuse the poor performance by Dak and the rest of the offense, which was downright.....offensive.

I agree you throw it up in a one on one situation...not two or three on one.

 

[cowboyschmps3]

The Brice drop didn't hurt us as we scored on the next play.

But man, talk about disappearing acts. What was up with Dez? Totally taken out of the game.

I think it was more of the coverage the giants were giving him, with a corner and safety over the top.

 

[EPL0c0]

The Brice drop didn't hurt us as we scored on the next play.

But man, talk about disappearing acts. What was up with Dez? Totally taken out of the game.

In the 2 games vs the Giants Dez has 14 targets, 2 receptions, 18yards, 1 Fumble.

They completely shut him down.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

The reason we cannot convert third downs is that our receivers simply cannot separate from coverage. Other than Beasley and Witten underneath. But when teams like the Vikings and Giants who have top #1 CBs who can man up Dez, and press our other receivers underneath, none of our receivers can separate from coverage. We really need an Alvin Harper type who can get deep and make a catch (Brice with another drop).

our main problems last night were coaching, Dak and Dez.
- coaching did not implement a winning game plan, offered no adjustments to what the Giants were bringing and let the Giants dictate the game. Very reminiscent of years past where a healthy Romo helped hide Garrett's inadequacies.
- Dak looked like a rookie. Held the ball too long, show little pocket awareness, missed reads and majority of passes were off target. He was horrible last night.
- Dez was atrocious.....no excuse for a veteran, "elite" player to lay such an egg when the team needed him most.

Dak should overcome and hopefully Dez had an off day - get these ugly performances out of the way now. As for Garrett.......he is what he is and there are nuances to be a great coach that experience wont provide - either you have it or not

 

[theebs]

In the 2 games vs the Giants Dez has 14 targets, 2 receptions, 18yards, 1 Fumble.

They completely shut him down.

yep, credit them and move on.

 

[theebs]

our main problems last night were coaching, Dak and Dez.
- coaching did not implement a winning game plan, offered no adjustments to what the Giants were bringing and let the Giants dictate the game. Very reminiscent of years past where a healthy Romo helped hide Garrett's inadequacies.
- Dak looked like a rookie. Held the ball too long, show little pocket awareness, missed reads and majority of passes were off target. He was horrible last night.
- Dez was atrocious.....no excuse for a veteran, "elite" player to lay such an egg when the team needed him most.

Dak should overcome and hopefully Dez had an off day - get these ugly performances out of the way now. As for Garrett.......he is what he is and there are nuances to be a great coach that experience wont provide - either you have it or not

coaching? No.

The players got beat. The defense played maybe its best game under marinelli and the passing game went bye bye.

The coaches were fine.

 

[aikemirv]

Dez was clueless last night. At least 3x incompletions were all on him. He gave up because he thought he wasn't getting the ball. Both interceptions were on him.

He did not have a chance on that deep ball. That was a stupid throw into double coverage in the middle of the field

What are you watchuing?

 

[MrPhil]

I agree you throw it up in a one on one situation...not two or three on one.

Don't get me wrong, I am not approving of the decision to through that ball. But if you blame Dak for the throw, you must also blame Dez for the lack of effort to save an INT.

PLENTY of blame to go around for last night's debacle.

 

[kramskoi]

Don't get me wrong, I am not approving of the decision to through that ball. But if you blame Dak for the throw, you must also blame Dez for the lack of effort to save an INT.

PLENTY of blame to go around for last night's debacle.

Bryant probably thought that Prescott wouldn't attempt such a throw given the coverage (and waiting safety) he was seeing in real time. It's not the job of the WR to tell a QB when he is throwing into coverage he should not be.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

All season long Dak has benefited from absurdly wide open receivers... heck, even in last night's debacle he got another one, a busted coverage play where Williams was so open Jerry could have came down and hit him. Cole Beasley in particular has been unbelievably open all season long, and Witten has had entire games where the defense seemed to not know he existed. It's no coincidence these guys are our two leading receivers... and it's also no coincidence they've been bottled up lately.
Dak is a dink and dunk game manager. If you give him all day in a clean pocket and large windows to throw to, he is adept at reading coverages and will beat you with short, straight line throws. If you ask him to make any other kind of throws with any kind of regularity, especially into coverage, he is going to look worse than Osweiller does in Houston. It's not just going to magically get better, that's who he is. And let's not pretend the Giants are an ace defense like the Vikings. They are good against the run, but they came into last night's game in the mid 20s in pass defense.

 

[renny]

I disagree and think the offense will be fine.

We all just need to take our medicine as everyone has wanted this team to lose forever and to have NY do it when most of the national media guys are giants and eagles fans makes it worse but i don't think we have turned into a bad team overnight.

I think the wr are a good group and will be fine.

1 bad game and everyone freaking out. How soon we forget how bad things were last year.
Some of the fans who post here will never be satisfied. Yes we hate losing, but a bad game now is better than a bad game later.