Our training room and Staff ranking near the bottom of the league is pitiful

[DallasEast]

Good question. If you scroll to the bottom (in red), it gives some context on how the polls were conducted and report cards created. It looks like 2023 was the first year for the reports.

Here is the link from the NFLPA President explaining the purpose of the initiative:

https://nflpa.com/posts/nfl-team-report-cards-for-the-players-by-the-players

It appears the union has a solid system for gathering data using its confidential questionnaire mentioned at the bottom. 1,300 players responded to that initial implementation. Wonder if the level of responses has remained constant or increased since then?

It is likely the union will never reveal it or even consider it but I would not mind seeing grading breakdowns according to player tenure. Perhaps that would allow for greater insight into what rookies, young and older veterans experience for themselves inside their work environments--as opposed to one, overall, interconnected version.

 

[Spottswoode]

We should put a pin in this topic and compare the 2026 report cards along with these.

I’m not sure of the rules on pics but if you want to pin, these images may be an easier way to graphically view the overall results. The direct link to the NFLPA site for more context is below each pic link.

2023
https://i0.wp.com/fffaceoff.com/wp-...r-team-report-cards.jpeg?resize=735,735&ssl=1

https://nflpa.com/nfl-player-team-report-cards-2023

2024
https://fffaceoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/NFLPA-Team-Report-Cards-2024.jpeg

https://nflpa.com/nfl-player-team-report-cards-2024

2025
https://www.facebook.com/ReneBugner...95-spieler-haben-an-der-nflp/944373474343875/

https://nflpa.com/report-cards/2025

 

[DallasEast]

I’m not sure of the rules on pics but if you want to pin, these images may be an easier way to graphically view the overall results. The direct link to the NFLPA site for more context is below each pic link.

2023
https://i0.wp.com/fffaceoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/nfl-player-team-report-cards.jpeg?resize=735,735&ssl=1

https://nflpa.com/nfl-player-team-report-cards-2023

2024
https://fffaceoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/NFLPA-Team-Report-Cards-2024.jpeg

https://nflpa.com/nfl-player-team-report-cards-2024

2025
https://www.facebook.com/ReneBugner...95-spieler-haben-an-der-nflp/944373474343875/

https://nflpa.com/report-cards/2025

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[Bullflop]

First of all these are poles taken from various sources of players who usually have either been on a team and left and they've seen other facilities how do you know how they rank these most of these players are either jaded from being cut or left and went to another facility because what they have had those players have had to been in the home locker room and facilities of every single team in order for this to be accurate seems to be a lot of cherry picking.

Sure pick a year in which we had a ton of injuries and some of those things are skewed at San Francisco maybe they suck too because San Francisco had the same luck or I should say bad luck with injuries last year I mean I remember a report Where Christian mccaffrey was only supposed to miss so much time with his Achilles flare up and he pretty much missed the entire year they kept saying he's weak to week is going to be back and then it turned into he might need surgery and blah blah blah and at the same thing that happens here maybe that's just normal....

The media has eyes to see for themselves as well as ears to listen to what anyone associated with the NFL has to say. The conditions that are being mentioned weren't something strictly related to last year. They were prevalent during the entire time that the preceding staff was in charge and, quite possibly, even before that. The majority of them seem content, however.

Whether those conditions remain the same in the present and future should be seen in all likelihood. I don't and won't form my opinions of the team based upon the conditions in the training and locker rooms. That's something that concerns the players and the staff more than it does me -- but for their sake, I hope it satisfies them now and in the future.

 

[blueblood70]

The media has eyes to see for themselves as well as ears to listen to what anyone associated with the NFL has to say. The conditions that are being mentioned weren't something strictly related to last year. They were prevalent during the entire time that the preceding staff was in charge and, quite possibly, even before that. The majority of them seem content, however.

Whether those conditions remain the same in the present and future should be seen in all likelihood. I don't and won't form my opinions of the team based upon the conditions in the training and locker rooms. That's something that concerns the players and the staff more than it does me -- but for their sake, I hope it satisfies them now and in the future.

And I say it was it's kind of hard when you judge a team that was decimated by injuries like a record amount of injuries because it's kind of hard for a staff to keep up with that it also makes it look bad when the facilities are overloaded because it was unusual I bet when you look at a period over three seasons when we had 36 wins two division titles and didn't have as many injuries all of a sudden I bet the feedback was different that's the timing of the polls..

I think it's odd see or should I say they irony you should see in this because the same thing they're saying about the Mavericks fans are blaming the Mavericks run of injuries on their staff in the same capacity literally when you have that many injuries it's kind of easy to blame those types of facilities and staff I think it's also ridiculous at the same time people need to get over it san Francisco went through this other teams go through it has nothing to do with their facilities or rehabilitation staff ?!!

because I'm sure it's being overblown because it's Dallas, everybody wants to pick on Jerry Jones, he's a target ,so if they're going to call him cheap and say he doesn't want to give the players top notch rehab facilities and whatnot.....​

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I think it's insane and it's ridiculous because they hate continues ,he's a target and yes he makes himself a target ,he puts himself front and center as the face of the Dallas Cowboys ,and he's the mouthpiece everybody hears first ,​

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so he brings it upon himself, but I again I know how to look at things without being biased and I'm telling you this is being overblown.​

I mean should we go back and blame The Texas Rangers staff the very staff that actually got them a championship the year before and then the very next year they have a rash of injuries that were almost Unbelievable so what is it the year before they were a perfect staff and they won the championship the next year they sucked because they have a rats of injuries and and now everyone wants to blame them for it is that where we're going because we could do this with every team..

Blaming this on a short staff and average to blow average facilities is nonsense, Saying Jerry's doing this on purpose because he's cheap is also the worst narrative in sports jerry is far from cheap....

i'm saying they're doing this because it was a year where he had a rash of injuries and hard to keep up with them all and that's it i'm isolating it on an island and I disagree with you.​

 

[blueblood70]

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Irony huh @Bullflop You see my point now I didn't see this before I replied to your other post but for 1 year to the other how does it change so much?? from 5th to 12th but nopt last noteven inthe bottom 10..hmmm

besides the fact that if you look at it they're not last they're nowhere near last they're at the top on 2023 when they didn't have a rash of injuries,

all of a sudden 2024 the staff changed that much?? to facilities changed ? what, did Jerry board off like half of it so nobody could use it?? now he shut the power off, lay off staff, because he's at cheap... If that's the case show me the proof show me one why they're not in the bottom like we're talking about the Cowboys like they're so cheap that two years in a row they were nowhere near the bottom as a matter of fact they were near the top 1 year slipped the next year which makes sense to me because we had a rash of injuries now they blame the facilities and the lack of staff..

Or is it opinions change like narratives from one year to the next to fit whatever they're trying to make a point but either way the Cowboys are nowhere near the bottom in either year so this is being blown out of proportion because why because you all hate Jerry so much you'll find every opportunity can to drive the stake deeper and deeper into his ribs, whatever it is you want you try to find a way to make Jerry the scapegoat ,jerry that's what everyone says, the last thing I've ever seen from Jerry as he's being cheap..

The word stubborn set in his ways wants to do things his own way maybe misguided maybe has bad information maybe all that's true i'd like him to do more in free agency as well i'd like him to stay off media and social media is more for sure as much as possible but being keep is never really ever sat well with me he's not cheap he overpays most of his own players he built one of the nicest stadiums at the time he has the star in Frisco always top notch he from what I understand from all the players they they're treated very well and these charts prove it...

 

[blueblood70]

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ahh some real data..

 

[Bullflop]

Irony huh @Bullflop You see my point now I didn't see this before I replied to your other post but for 1 year to the other how does it change so much?? from 5th to 12th but nopt last noteven inthe bottom 10..hmmm

besides the fact that if you look at it they're not last they're nowhere near last they're at the top on 2023 when they didn't have a rash of injuries,

all of a sudden 2024 the staff changed that much?? to facilities changed ? what, did Jerry board off like half of it so nobody could use it?? now he shut the power off, lay off staff, because he's at cheap... If that's the case show me the proof show me one why they're not in the bottom like we're talking about the Cowboys like they're so cheap that two years in a row they were nowhere near the bottom as a matter of fact they were near the top 1 year slipped the next year which makes sense to me because we had a rash of injuries now they blame the facilities and the lack of staff..

Or is it opinions change like narratives from one year to the next to fit whatever they're trying to make a point but either way the Cowboys are nowhere near the bottom in either year so this is being blown out of proportion because why because you all hate Jerry so much you'll find every opportunity can to drive the stake deeper and deeper into his ribs, whatever it is you want you try to find a way to make Jerry the scapegoat ,jerry that's what everyone says, the last thing I've ever seen from Jerry as he's being cheap..

The word stubborn set in his ways wants to do things his own way maybe misguided maybe has bad information maybe all that's true i'd like him to do more in free agency as well i'd like him to stay off media and social media is more for sure as much as possible but being keep is never really ever sat well with me he's not cheap he overpays most of his own players he built one of the nicest stadiums at the time he has the star in Frisco always top notch he from what I understand from all the players they they're treated very well and these charts prove it...

You seem far more dissatisfied than the players are with the locker room and training facility conditions. You should write to Jerry and express your dismay before lashing out at the fans. Try to relax -- you can do it if you try. We have a new staff that is far more sensitive to the players' needs than was previously the case. The players aren't complaining nearly as much as you are. The percentages indicate that.

 

[blueblood70]

You seem far more dissatisfied than the players are with the locker room and training facility conditions. You should write to Jerry and express your dismay before lashing out at the fans. Try to relax -- you can do it if you try. We have a new staff that is far more sensitive to the players' needs than was previously the case. The players aren't complaining nearly as much as you are. The percentages indicate that.

Actually you read it wrong,

i'm on the opposite side of the argument, people in here are trying to say that the Cowboys are cheap they didn't have enough staff they didn't provide the best facilities, and they didn't take care of their own properly, and I'm saying that that's not true, so I don't know where you're getting that from.

You completely just all off i'm actually on the other side, i'm saying that people are exaggerating about our facilities and now you're saying that I'm dissatisfied with them I have no idea what the facilities are like, i'm just using those charts as proof that people who start these rumors are all slanted towards Jerry haters and they're all wrong..

 

[Sarek]

It's not a issue of cheapness, it's a issue of weakness both mental and physical.

The Cowboys is Hollywood not heart or desire, and the training reflects that.

 

[blueblood70]

Look at this: This is how we rank compared to the other teams in the NFL. (32 teams).

• Training Room................................ C (27th)
  • 75% of Cowboys players feel they have enough full-time trainers, ranking them 30 out of 32 teams.
    60% of players feel they have enough full-time physical therapists, a rank of 32 out of 32.
    95% of players feel they have enough hot tub space, a rank of 9 out of 32.
    88% of players feel they have enough cold tub space, a rank of 13 out of 32.
    Players report that the training room is understaffed, particularly an insufficient number of physical therapists. They also feel that the training room lacks certain modalities found in most other NFL training rooms.
• Training Staff.................................. C (30th)
  • 72% of Cowboys players report that they receive enough one-on-one training treatment, ranking them 29 out of 32 teams.
    The players feel that their training staff slightly contributes to their overall success, ranking them 31 of 32.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...-mccarthy-training-staff-brian-schottenheimer

I guess, player's getting back on the field after suffering an injury isn't very high up on Jerry's list.

It actually isn't I don't know where you're getting your stuff from this post is 100 percent wrong and there is some support in here go look at the graphs that were put in here we had a record amount of injuries it looked bad last year other teams go through this i've seen the Rangers i've seen the Mavericks everyone keeps blaming facilities and staff no sometimes this stuff happens and it comes in bunches and you can't stop it and this is a bunch of nonsense so why don't you take your slanted negative narratives that are all false it's not true when you ask the players that we're actually here come through here or have been here before and not ask the media or ask people who are jaded you'll find out that this is a terrible post..

Fake NEWS!!!~~

 

[john van brocklin]

Look at this: This is how we rank compared to the other teams in the NFL. (32 teams).

• Training Room................................ C (27th)
  • 75% of Cowboys players feel they have enough full-time trainers, ranking them 30 out of 32 teams.
    60% of players feel they have enough full-time physical therapists, a rank of 32 out of 32.
    95% of players feel they have enough hot tub space, a rank of 9 out of 32.
    88% of players feel they have enough cold tub space, a rank of 13 out of 32.
    Players report that the training room is understaffed, particularly an insufficient number of physical therapists. They also feel that the training room lacks certain modalities found in most other NFL training rooms.
• Training Staff.................................. C (30th)
  • 72% of Cowboys players report that they receive enough one-on-one training treatment, ranking them 29 out of 32 teams.
    The players feel that their training staff slightly contributes to their overall success, ranking them 31 of 32.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...-mccarthy-training-staff-brian-schottenheimer

I guess, player's getting back on the field after suffering an injury isn't very high up on Jerry's list.

DISGRACEFUL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We are the worlds most valuable Sports Franchise and we skimp on this and HCs!!!!!!!!
This and the Teams lack of post season success are totally unacceptable.
I sure wish fans would quit buying merch and going to the games....

 

[blueblood70]

DISGRACEFUL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We are the worlds most valuable Sports Franchise and we skimp on this and HCs!!!!!!!!
This and the Teams lack of post season success are totally unacceptable.
I sure wish fans would quit buying merch and going to the games....

Fake news.... I'd say those charts provided above from 2023 and from the finish of 2024 report cards from players etc say this is anther jerry bash thread with no teeth..

It actually isn't I don't know where you're getting your stuff from this post is 100 percent wrong and there is some support in here go look at the graphs that were put in here we had a record amount of injuries it looked bad last year other teams go through this i've seen the Rangers i've seen the Mavericks everyone keeps blaming facilities and staff no sometimes this stuff happens and it comes in bunches and you can't stop it and this is a bunch of nonsense so why don't you take your slanted negative narratives that are all false it's not true when you ask the players that we're actually here come through here or have been here before and not ask the media or ask people who are jaded you'll find out that this is a terrible post..

Fake NEWS!!!~~

 

[blueblood70]

DISGRACEFUL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We are the worlds most valuable Sports Franchise and we skimp on this and HCs!!!!!!!!
This and the Teams lack of post season success are totally unacceptable.
I sure wish fans would quit buying merch and going to the games....

Would I find disgraceful as people believe social media people who cherry pick wherever they get their information from and then skew it to a false narrative and then people believe it enough to say it's disgraceful it is not even true...

 

[DallasEast]

It actually isn't I don't know where you're getting your stuff from this post is 100 percent wrong...

Fake NEWS!!!~~

Slow down. Take a breath. Re-read the entire OP from start to finish completely. You may feel like responding to the member differently about the information posted after a more careful review.

 

[blueblood70]

Slow down. Take a breath. Re-read the entire OP from start to finish completely. You may feel like responding to the member differently about the information posted after a more careful review.

too late ship has sailed, I'm past it.. not worth any more debate.

 

[DallasEast]

too late ship has sailed, I'm past it.. not worth any more debate.

 

[zrinkill]

This is how the Jones gang saves money ....... go cheap on coaching staff and training staff.

 

[Spottswoode]

Whether those conditions remain the same in the present and future should be seen in all likelihood. I don't and won't form my opinions of the team based upon the conditions in the training and locker rooms. That's something that concerns the players and the staff more than it does me -- but for their sake, I hope it satisfies them now and in the future.

I agree regarding forming opinions.

These types of surveys are commonly used to highlight high level trends and potential gaps but the results are not detailed enough to be actionable. Teams will need to drill down to determine their validity and significance.

To blindly blame the organization OR to discount the results is to miss potential opportunities for improvement. The results are the results, the players have spoken, and there is no doubt that there has been a decline in a few areas. Should it be concerning? There is no real way to tell without further investigation.

In the case of the training department, maybe they determine the training room and staffing is sufficient during normal times but insufficient during times of stress. Maybe it’s a process issue. Maybe they made some changes that need to be reassessed or tweaked. Or maybe it’s a non issue. But that’s for the organization to diagnose.

If you are a Jerry hater, this is confirmation bias. If you are a Jerry fan, the results have minimal value. But if you take a more rational approach, you see the results for what they are...another data point to help identify opportunities for improvement.

 

[Spottswoode]

so he brings it upon himself, but I again I know how to look at things without being biased and I'm telling you this is being overblown.

Sometimes when you get overly fixated on other people’s biases, you become blind to your own. It’s a consistent theme and rite of passage on this forum.