Ourlads April 15th Mock...

[tm1119]

Longer arms? Well, you have convinced me then.

You haven't yet stated how Lawrence is better.

 

[speedkilz88]

Looking at his stats and combine workout number it's easy to see why Ourlads is so high on the kid. He had 114 tackles, which was 8th best in the country. On top of that he had 6 picks and forced 3 fumbles. He's 6'1, 211 lbs and runs a sub 4.5 forty. And his "back-pedal, turn & run" was 2nd best out all the safeties. He's a tackling machine who gets picks.

Broaddus says he stiff in the hips.

SCOUT’S TAKE: Physically looks like a safety. … Can really hit, explosive in the way he attacks the ball. … Unloads on runners and receivers
crossing the middle. … Not the most fluid‐moving player and because of his size, doesn’t always look smooth. … To use a scouting term,
he is stiff in the hips, limiting his ability to change directions, which is different from the other top safeties in the draft. … Needs to do a better
job of securing the tackle first instead of going for the big hit because you will see him miss in space.
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[MichaelWinicki]

Broaddus says he stiff in the hips.

SCOUT’S TAKE: Physically looks like a safety. … Can really hit, explosive in the way he attacks the ball. … Unloads on runners and receivers
crossing the middle. … Not the most fluid‐moving player and because of his size, doesn’t always look smooth. … To use a scouting term,
he is stiff in the hips, limiting his ability to change directions, which is different from the other top safeties in the draft. … Needs to do a better
job of securing the tackle first instead of going for the big hit because you will see him miss in space.
​

And yet he timed better in the "turn & run" than any other safety at the combine other than Dix.

 

[Alexander]

You haven't yet stated how Lawrence is better.

Better variety of pass rush moves and technique, better build/length. Smith needs to be a 3-4 OLB from what I see, whereas Lawrence has the type of frame that lends itself better to a 4-3 end.

 

[tm1119]

Better variety of pass rush moves and technique, better build/length. Smith needs to be a 3-4 OLB from what I see, whereas Lawrence has the type of frame that lends itself better to a 4-3 end.

So you think Lawrence is better suited to play DE than Chris Smith because he's 2 inches taller? Makes perfect sense.....Despite the fact that Smith has more muscle, weighs more, and tested both stronger and more athletic.

And you said earlier that football is about leverage. Who wins the leverage battle in football again? Oh yeah, the guy who is lower. And what helps a ton with leverage? Long arms.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Received the 2014 Draft Guide today. And here's their first round mock:

1. Houston - Clowney
2. St.L (from Wash) - Mtthews
3. Jacksonville - Watkins
4. Clevelend - Lewan
5. Oakland - Mack
6. Atlanta - Robinson
7. Tampa - Evans
8. Minnesota - Mosley
9. Buffalo - Ebron
10. Detroit - Glibert
11. Tennessee- Barr
12. NY Giants - Martin
13. St. Louis - Bucannon
14. Chicago - Tuitt
15. Pittsburgh - Pryor
16. Dallas - Donald
17. Baltimore - Clinton-Dix
18. NY Jets - Beckham Jr.
19. Miami - Jernigan
20. Arizona - Murphy
21. Green Bay - Dennard
22. Philly - Cooks
23. KC - Lee
24. Cincy - Shazier
25. SD - Nix
26. Cleveland (Indy) - Manziel
27. NO - Verrett
28. Carolina - Kouandjio
29. NE - Martin
30. SF - Fuller
31. Denver - Richardson
32. Seattle - Su'a-Filo

Only 1 QB taken (26th) and the Cowboys still end up with Donald (which I would be thrilled).

Thank you for sharing!

 

[Alexander]

So you think Lawrence is better suited to play DE than Chris Smith because he's 2 inches taller? Makes perfect sense.....Despite the fact that Smith has more muscle, weighs more, and tested both stronger and more athletic.

There is a reason practically every pundit has Smith in the second tier of OLB prospects and Lawrence in the upper tier of DE prospects.

And you said earlier that football is about leverage. Who wins the leverage battle in football again? Oh yeah, the guy who is lower. And what helps a ton with leverage? Long arms.

It is also about technique. And that Lawrence has far more of the traits that you look for in a 4-3 end IMO.

 

[visionary]

thanx MW
i like ourlads evaluations generally
WDE is a real need on the team this year
will be interesting to see who we pick
i am not a fan of Barr at 16 or Ford in rd 1
give me donald, dix, jernigan in rd 1 and go DE later

 

[MichaelWinicki]

thanx MW
i like ourlads evaluations generally
WDE is a real need on the team this year
will be interesting to see who we pick
i am not a fan of Barr at 16 or Ford in rd 1
give me donald, dix, jernigan in rd 1 and go DE later

Given time later on today I'm going to go through the Ourlads evaluations and try to put together a list of potential WDE's by going through both their DE and OLB categories. Barr for instance is listed in their directory as an OLB and not a DE.

 

[visionary]

Given time later on today I'm going to go through the Ourlads evaluations and try to put together a list of potential WDE's by going through both their DE and OLB categories. Barr for instance is listed in their directory as an OLB and not a DE.

thanx

 

[speedkilz88]

And yet he timed better in the "turn & run" than any other safety at the combine other than Dix.

Ourlad's does mention it here:

Shows well on tape in man coverage, but can be a little stiff hipped when needing to take angles or cover deep throws.

http://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/player/deone-bucannon/95195

NFL.com

WEAKNESSES
Struggles to recover from missteps and will not track anyone down from behind. Some tightness in his hips. Takes some inaccurate angles. Man-coverage limitations (struggles to mirror slot receivers). Can be overaggressive and miss tackles. Does not always arrive under control in space. Lacks discipline on the field and makes too many mental mistakes. Got shook in the hole for a 75-yard TD vs. Colorado State and gives up too many big plays with bad angles.

DRAFT PROJECTION
Rounds 2-3

CBS

WEAKNESSES: Has a high, choppy backpedal and is stiff in the hips, limiting his ability to change directions fluidly. This leaves Bucannon vulnerable to double-moves and ball-carriers with the agility to cutback against the grain. While a big-hitter, too often Bucannon will lunge at ball-carriers, occasionally resulting in some ugly whiffs. Struggles a bit with tunnel vision, focusing strictly on the ball-carrier and losing sight of would-be blockers, who take advantage of his lack of spatial awareness to seal him off from the play.


Bucannon is not particularly fluid which could lead to his struggles earning (and keeping) a starting role in the NFL.
--Rob Rang

PLAYER OVERVIEW
First-team All-American whose dependability near the line of scrimmage with 78 solo tackles (tied for 11th in the country) and three forced fumbles and in coverage -- six interceptions -- underscores his all-around ability.

Bucannon's ideal size, hard-hitting style and fierce competitive nature are exactly what teams seek safety. However, his limited flexibility and poor awareness and reaction time in coverage are measured shortcomings.

Projected RND: 2-3

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1737409/deone-bucannon

Looks like everyone else thinks he's a 2nd-3rd round prospect.

 

[Floatyworm]

I'd take Chris Smith over Lawerence too. Smith is more athletic, stronger, and has longer arms. Played against much better competition as well.

East Coast Bias....