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Just made a bet for $500. I bet him that Martellus Bennett has 500 yards receiving or more this season and he took it right away. Who do you honestly think got the better of the bet?
 

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500 yards?? hahaha, barring injury you should be looking for ways right now to spend that $500 bucks he is going to owe you.
 

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glorydaysrback;2880295 said:
500 yards?? hahaha, barring injury you should be looking for ways right now to spend that $500 bucks he is going to owe you.

Haha that's what I like to hear brother..he really has no idea what Bennett is gonna do this year..he's a Jets fan come on
 

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Martellus had like 280 last season on 20 catches. You figure this year he gets more looks with TO gone and he also improves his game, as he was a rookie last season.

I dunno, I think 500 is about where Vegas would put the line if they had one. So I think you got a fair bet at the very least.

That said, I'd probably take the over as well.
 

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Consider 4000 yards for Romo to be a solid season. In his stellar 2007 year where he broke a lot of records he threw for 4200. Take that 4000 and break it up between the WRs, TEs, and backs. Let's ignore the fact that Dallas will probably lean more heavily on the running game this season, making 4000 a little iffy...

Figure that Roy Williams has a decent year at 1000 yards. Optimistic? Maybe. If he really clicks with Romo, it could be more.

Look at Witten, who is obviously the dominant tight end in the game now. Does he get close to 1000 yards? With less confidence in the WRs, maybe. In 2007 he was around 1150. Last year he was at 950. Does he lose catches to Bennett? Does he pick up catches that were going to the WRs? Call it a wash.

So there's half your projected yardage gone. 2000 left to work with.

Crayton? In 2007 he was at 700. In 2008, he went for 550. If he's truly going to be the #2 receiver, odds are he comes closer to the 700 number.

Throw in Miles Austin and Sam Hurd. Do they get 300 each? Hurd had 300 last year. Austin had 300 the year before. I think this is one of the two biggest factors - how often do they have one or both of these guys on the field instead of a second TE?

The last factor is RB receiving yardage. They may decide that Felix needs 30 catches or more. Barber may get fewer than years past. If Garrett wants to get the backs more involved in the passing game to cut down on Romo's mistakes (and to take advantage of Felix), that's going to cut into Bennett's numbers. 250-400 yards for Barber and somewhere in that spectrum for Felix makes it dicey. I'll leave out Choice just because it seems like they'll have to force him in for a series or two since the team is so loaded at RB.

Adding those numbers up, I'd be inclined to take the under. Of course a Witten injury and/or hits at the #2/#3/#4 WR postions makes the over much more enticing. Garrett getting totally pass happy will help, especially if Romo can eclipse 4500 yards. That doesn't seem likely though since Garrett going that heavy on passing probably dooms Dallas to a bad season. They have to run to be successful in my opinion. Jerry may be putting post-it notes on the coaches' desks saying just that.

Here's the real splash of cold water for you: A 500 yard season would put Bennett at #16 in receiving yards for TEs based on 2008 stats. (http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?season=2008&seasonType=REG&d-447263-o=2&statisticPositionCategory=TIGHT_END&tabSeq=1&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=RECEIVING_YARDS&d-447263-n=1) That means Dallas' SECOND tight end would have more yards than half of the league's STARTING tight ends. Unless you are looking at a team like Chicago or Miami last year with no WRs (and neither of them pulled off that feat), I'm not confident. I'm too lazy and it's too late in the evening to do the research, but how many teams have ever had 2 TEs go over 500 yards receiving?

I'd hedge toward the under.
 

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75% chance he gets between 450 and 550 yards. I'm guessing its gonna be close. He has a ton of upside, but some games he may end up doing lots of blocking, or sitting out due to injury, or not catch many p***** due to matchup issues.
 

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*** are you guys talking about LOL.

When was the last time we had a backup TE have more that 500YDS regardless of how talented he is... he's our BACKUP.

John Kitna - 1000Yds
Choice - 500 YDS
Austin - 700YDS

Williams - 5 Sacks.
 

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Considering folks who run the offense, or at least Witten has said, that we're looking at the "12" being dang near deployed 50% of the time as a formation, it wouldn't surprise me at all to see Beans and Rice combine for 1500-1600 yards.

Safe bet. You should ask to double the wager amount.
 

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SaltwaterServr;2880503 said:
Considering folks who run the offense, or at least Witten has said, that we're looking at the "12" being dang near deployed 50% of the time as a formation, it wouldn't surprise me at all to see Beans and Rice combine for 1500-1600 yards.

Safe bet. You should ask to double the wager amount.

LMAO ROFL man... are you serious??!??!

1500-1600 for 2 TE's?!??!?!

Hand some of that stuff over man!
 

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Matt;2880499 said:
*** are you guys talking about LOL.

When was the last time we had a backup TE have more that 500YDS regardless of how talented he is... he's our BACKUP.

John Kitna - 1000Yds
Choice - 500 YDS
Austin - 700YDS

Williams - 5 Sacks.

When's the last time, EVER, the NFL saw two TE's this good on one roster? They both do everything a TE should do, but they both do it beyond most of their peers.
 

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SaltwaterServr;2880506 said:
When's the last time, EVER, the NFL saw two TE's this good on one roster? They both do everything a TE should do, but they both do it beyond most of their peers.

Right, just like how Fasano showed a lot of promise.. :rolleyes:
 

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Matt;2880507 said:
Right, just like how Fasano showed a lot of promise.. :rolleyes:

Comparing Fasano to Bennett is just ridiculously stupid.
 

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Matt;2880507 said:
Right, just like how Fasano showed a lot of promise.. :rolleyes:

We're changing the offensive game plans to suit the two TE set. It's a safe bet Martellus gets twice the looks he got as a rookie under the circumstances. It's a mistake to consider him a backup TE under the circumstances. It's like calling your nickle CB a backup. 500's a pretty high number, but it basically means putting up the numbers Crayton put up as the 4th/5th option in '08.

Personally, I'd take the over on that bet.
 

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Idgit;2880541 said:
We're changing the offensive game plans to suit the two TE set. It's a safe bet Martellus gets twice the looks he got as a rookie under the circumstances. It's a mistake to consider him a backup TE under the circumstances. It's like calling your nickle CB a backup. 500's a pretty high number, but it basically means putting up the numbers Crayton put up as the 4th/5th option in '08.

Personally, I'd take the over on that bet.

I agree no doubt. To outsider fans, they would view Bennett as the backup tight end, but as a Cowboys fan we know the two TE set is going to be the staple of our offense so Bennett is technically a starter as well. I just hope he gets to 500 lol.
 

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TheSport78;2880564 said:
I agree no doubt. To outsider fans, they would view Bennett as the backup tight end, but as a Cowboys fan we know the two TE set is going to be the staple of our offense so Bennett is technically a starter as well. I just hope he gets to 500 lol.

To be quite candid, I would be shocked if Marty B doesn't have at least one 100 yard game receiving this season.
 

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Matt;2880505 said:
LMAO ROFL man... are you serious??!??!

1500-1600 for 2 TE's?!??!?!

Hand some of that stuff over man!

Witten and Bennett combined for 1,235 yards last season, and that was with Bennett being a rookie who didn't get on the field that much. Doesn't seem like that much of a stretch that they could combine for another 250-or-so more yards this season.
 
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