Overshown's Fit with the Team

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LB Coach Scott McCurley: Draft Show Interview​

 

[deerhunter11]

this has been a good draft so far I want rb abanakanda next but that is just me

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Think he wins the WILL year 1 over Clark?

I'm not sure they will compete for the same role.

I see Clark vying to replace Anthony Barr opposite of LVE. I see Overshown being groomed to be Kearse's potential future replacement (along w/Marquese Bell).

I do think we could see Overshown getting snaps in certain blitz packages.

 

[CATCH17]

Clark is more of a true linebacker.

I don’t think Clark and Overshown are competing against each other.

It’s more about what the offense puts on the field and the players we have to matchup for those packages.

Overshown is a player that’s an answer for a lot of those potential mismatches the offense can present.

His position is irrelevant. His position is go guard that guy or go get the QB.

 

[cnuball21]

I'm not sure they will compete for the same role.

I see Clark vying to replace Anthony Barr opposite of LVE. I see Overshown being groomed to be Kearse's potential future replacement (along w/Marquese Bell).

I do think we could see Overshown getting snaps in certain blitz packages.

Yea I could see Kearse roll in the future. He has excellent eyes and feel for playing zone coverage just not sure if he can match up with TEs…need to watch him more.

I’d still let him compete for that WILL role year 1 though. Clark looked lost out there last year at time so I wouldn’t just hand it over to him.

 

[Hardline]

He may be great but I never liked LBs who has problem diagnosing plays or lack instinct. I rather draft a LB with slightly less speed but far better instinct. One false step or delay in diagnosing a play easily close 0.5-1 sec. Where as these guys 40 tome differ by like what… 0.2 sec? That’s over 40 yd!

JMO

Overshown doesn't have a problem diagnosing plays or lack instinct. That's one of his strengths .

 

[exciter]

The Overshown pick is a curious one to me.

I don’t dislike the player and have seen him flash plenty but have also seen him out of position and on his posterior quite a bit. I see his tackling grade is poor and he’s credited with having a career tackling miss rate of 19.2% - not a good number. But again, watch Texas games and this rangy guy with unusual LB twitch is in your screen. I’ve always rooted for him but he’s an enigma to me which leads to my question for all of you.

It's easy to see why Fassel was lurking in the war room before DO was announced, but what’s Quinn’s plan for him? Maybe someone familiar with DQ coaching philosophies can shed some light on why Demarvion was the target at pick 90?

Please, let's not make this a "hate the pick" thread. This is me looking for insight as to how this player fits in a Quinn defense.

Think he fits the “slightly larger” Safety/Will role that they missed with Cox!!! He’ll replace Kearse in 2024 after a season developing!

 

[xwalker]

The Overshown pick is a curious one to me.

I don’t dislike the player and have seen him flash plenty but have also seen him out of position and on his posterior quite a bit. I see his tackling grade is poor and he’s credited with having a career tackling miss rate of 19.2% - not a good number. But again, watch Texas games and this rangy guy with unusual LB twitch is in your screen. I’ve always rooted for him but he’s an enigma to me which leads to my question for all of you.

It's easy to see why Fassel was lurking in the war room before DO was announced, but what’s Quinn’s plan for him? Maybe someone familiar with DQ coaching philosophies can shed some light on why Demarvion was the target at pick 90?

Please, let's not make this a "hate the pick" thread. This is me looking for insight as to how this player fits in a Quinn defense.

Kearse plays about half of his snaps as a coverage LB (3 Safety sets).

Create a scouting report on Jayron Kearse as a LB.

It would likely be very similar to a scouting report on Overshown.

LB highlight reels often don't show the player in coverage.
- The fact that multiple plays with Overshown in coverage are in a highlight reel is a hint about the player.

 

[Malhavoc]

Kearse plays about half of his snaps as a coverage LB (3 Safety sets).

Create a scouting report on Jayron Kearse as a LB.

It would likely be very similar to a scouting report on Overshown.

LB highlight reels often don't show the player in coverage.
- The fact that multiple plays with Overshown in coverage are in a highlight reel is a hint about the player.

That’s where I see him offering the most potential to contribute. And I think he is an improving player. He can be extremely valuable in certain packages early on while he develops.

 

[ThatJerryKid]

Overshown is going to bring some good things to this defense, including spying Hurts.

 

[Pass2Run]

I disagree.

He fits right in. There were several of us who thought he fit in in the draft thread. Like half of us picked Overshown. It probably had a lot to do with many of us being Texas alumni, but he also fits Dallas also because of his physical traits and style. He can be the hybrid type of player that you move around.

I personally think he may be a good ST gunner, among other things. Just because he knows how to get to the ball carrier, and how to apply pressure.

We'll see, but he fits right in here, I think.

 

[Pass2Run]

Kearse plays about half of his snaps as a coverage LB (3 Safety sets).

Create a scouting report on Jayron Kearse as a LB.

It would likely be very similar to a scouting report on Overshown.

LB highlight reels often don't show the player in coverage.
- The fact that multiple plays with Overshown in coverage are in a highlight reel is a hint about the player.

When people doubt the Overshown pick, this highlight. reel makes me smile. Guy is going to wreck it here. Watch. Kid isn't afraid to work.

 

[Pass2Run]

Lastly, as far as roster spot. I forgot to post this. But position flex is another reason he fits. He can play safety, LB, or even along the line at times.

I hope I haven't given too much information to In-Phil-Traitor.

 

[calicowboy54]

He's basically Roy Williams bit at linebacker

no no he’s a bag of braums biscuits away from a DE

 

[Risen Star]

Of course when it was announced he visited the Cowboys not a single person was stoked about it.

But they all love it now!

 

[Hardline]

He may be great but I never liked LBs who has problem diagnosing plays or lack instinct. I rather draft a LB with slightly less speed but far better instinct. One false step or delay in diagnosing a play easily close 0.5-1 sec. Where as these guys 40 tome differ by like what… 0.2 sec? That’s over 40 yd!

JMO

Overshown excelled at diagnosing plays and having great instinct at Texas.

 

[raven55]

makes you think after this year t someone with the letter K might be on the chopping block, they will start looking around on where to slice salaries because MICA PARSONS will start creeping into the picture and he gonna want that bank loot dropped off in his bank account and if he keeps performing like he does stephen will have to get semi- truck to whole that amount

 

[Pass2Run]

Overshown doesn't have a problem diagnosing plays or lack instinct. That's one of his strengths .

You hit it on the head, my brother. This is why he'll be a good player. Kid has a good head on his shoulders, for sure.

 

[Pass2Run]

Of course when it was announced he visited the Cowboys not a single person was stoked about it.

But they all love it now!

I presume that's why a lot of us placed him in our 20 draft. He's a fit. I liked him. There were measurables of other players I liked more at LB, like Campbell, who I liked before his combine, but he went before Smith. I also wasn't aware they were looking for a safety/LB type. He's going to ball out here. If you can't see that, you're not paying attention to what they're trying to do on defense. It's going to be a blast. D'Shone will get his, eventually. Dude is a shark.

You line him up next to Parsons, or near, just behind, whatever, and it's game over.

I think he could be the next Woody but with a twist. We'll see. He was the only player I got right.

Just remember that. You heard the Darren Woodson comparison here first. This guy is a Darren Woodson type, who can play along the line, bash heads, and cover receivers, and make plays on the ball. He's going to cause havoc.

 

[beware_d-ware]

Overshown's fit? It's perfect.

I was bummed when I first heard the pick. We took a mid round gamble on a Texas athletic project. That frickin never works. But then I turned on the tape, and I immediately got it. It's like someone dropped a Dan Quinn linebacker into college.

Most colleges run pretty basic defensive schemes. They don't have a lot a lot of high end players, nor much time for coaching them. So most DCs pretty much call their plays off of the Madden Easy Mode list. Will 'backers play five yards off the line every snap, play scrape in run defense, and handle spot drops in zone. Even LB1 super-stud Jack Campbell ran that kind of mega-vanilla scheme.

But Overshown? He's lurking throughout the front, he's blitzing off the edge, he's carrying backs in man. His versatility was exceptional. Few college LBs get handed that level of responsibility, especially outside of the usual NFL factories.

And in a dime-backer, box safety type role too? It's awesome. Texas used him EXACTLY like Quinn's going to use him.

And Overshown's measurables checked out. And his draft stock was right in line with our pick. It was a frickin perfect pick IMO.

I'm not saying he'll be a stud... 75% of third rounders fail. But drafting is process over results, and the process here was flawless.