Owa Odighizuwa, UCLA

acer941 · Mar 30, 2015

Can someone please explain the fascination with this guy? Only thing I see is a very risky very Athletic Prospect beyond that not much.

CATCH17 · Mar 30, 2015

acer941 said:
Can someone please explain the fascination with this guy? Only thing I see is a very risky very Athletic Prospect beyond that not much.

I guess you either buy into his talent or not.

For me I see every tool imaginable for the guy to be an elite pass rusher.

Physically he is awesome.

btcutter · Mar 30, 2015

CATCH17 said:
I guess you either buy into his talent or not.

For me I see every tool imaginable for the guy to be an elite pass rusher.

Physically he is awesome.

Problem is lack of production despite being a physical freak. I like to see my first round pick with some production to back it.

acer941 · Mar 30, 2015

CATCH17 said:
I guess you either buy into his talent or not.

For me I see every tool imaginable for the guy to be an elite pass rusher.

Physically he is awesome.

Very true. I guess there are cases of Prospects Excelling that we're in his shoes (JPP, Eziekel Ansah)

tm1119 · Mar 30, 2015

acer941 said:
Can someone please explain the fascination with this guy? Only thing I see is a very risky very Athletic Prospect beyond that not much.

I see a guy with great size, long arms, a near elite get off, and great power in his punch.

I think people who don't like him aren't acknowledging the fact that he played the majority of the time as a read and react 5 tech.

The only problem I see with him is possible medical problems with his hip....but only the doctors will know the answer there.

BAT · Mar 30, 2015

acer941 said:
Can someone please explain the fascination with this guy? Only thing I see is a very risky very Athletic Prospect beyond that not much.

Look beyond the stats, he was a disruptor on that UCLA defense. Think Tyron Crawford kind of impact.

21Savage · Mar 30, 2015

btcutter said:
Problem is lack of production despite being a physical freak. I like to see my first round pick with some production to back it.

Have any of the top egde prospects play more than half of their downs as 5 techniques and they won't even be considered 1st rounders. The guy has more elite traits than guys like JPP and Ansah coming out. Other than the hip I have no idea why he would be available to us at 27. But if he is I'm running to the podium though.

big dog cowboy · Mar 30, 2015

If it weren't for his hip, he would likely be gone by 27.

btcutter · Mar 30, 2015

newnationcb said:
Have any of the top egde prospects play more than half of their downs as 5 techniques and they won't even be considered 1st rounders. The guy has more elite traits than guys like JPP and Ansah coming out. Other than the hip I have no idea why he would be available to us at 27. But if he is I'm running to the podium though.

I watched some of this year's UCLA games being an alumni. But I just wasn't that impressed. There were plenty of third downs that the front 4 generated no pass rush. Those downs he wasn't playing 5 technique.
I hope our scouts are correct if we draft him. In that UCLA defense Kendrick and Jacks are the standouts.

Rogerthat12 · Mar 30, 2015

btcutter said:
I watched some of this year's UCLA games being an alumni. But I just wasn't that impressed. There were plenty of third downs that the front 4 generated no pass rush. Those downs he wasn't playing 5 technique.
I hope our scouts are correct if we draft him. In that UCLA defense Kendrick and Jacks are the standouts.

His main issue is that he lacks that explosion and ability to bend to get to the QB like elite pass rushers do, he can get the push and create pressure but ultimately lacks this key element to his game.

He does have flex appeal, can move inside as well as play the edge but I just see that missing key ingredient.

IAmLegend · Mar 30, 2015

I actually really like him as a prospect. His 2 hip surgeries scare me though.

ghst187 · Mar 31, 2015

Hip surgeries and little perceivable impact makes me not want him at 27. Reeks of bust to me

CowboysLaw87 · Mar 31, 2015

He's the physical prototype, with great power, length, motor, and position flex. As has been said, the fact that he played a 5-technique definitely cost him some production.

As has also been said, his lack of bend around the corner means he frequently forces the QB to move (pressure), but can't always finish the play (sack). So he's more of a distribution than pure sack guy. Add to that the hip injuries, and I can see why he might be there at 27. Still really like him though. I think my 4 guys at this juncture are O'Diggy, Malcom Brown, Kevin Johnson & Eric Kendricks. One will certainly be there.

xwalker · Mar 31, 2015

acer941 said:
Can someone please explain the fascination with this guy? Only thing I see is a very risky very Athletic Prospect beyond that not much.

I think he is terrific. IMO, if teams think his hip is OK, then he'll probably be gone by #27.

He is very quick and powerful. In some games he had pressure on the QB on almost all passing snaps.

He played as a 3-4 DE with a very limited number of snaps as a DE on a 4 man line. He often played a read-and-react style with outside run contain responsibility. Against teams with running QBs, he often played contain against that also. He would double teamed often.

He looks like a perfect fit in Marinelli's scheme on either the strong side or weak side.

Sack stats are not a good way to evaluate college pass rushers. Many college officials allow an extreme amount of holding that won't be allowed in the NFL. Many college offenses are based on quick passes in a spread that get the ball out of the QBs hands quickly.

chuch · Mar 31, 2015

xwalker said:
I think he is terrific. IMO, if teams think his hip is OK, then he'll probably be gone by #27.

He is very quick and powerful. In some games he had pressure on the QB on almost all passing snaps.

This.

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/owamagbe-odighizuwa-vs-usc-2014-3/

One of his best outings.

CF74 · Mar 31, 2015

Because when Marinelli gets a hold of him he's going to beast it up...

theogt · Mar 31, 2015

chuch said:
This.

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/owamagbe-odighizuwa-vs-usc-2014-3/

One of his best outings.

The guy is a beast. Super strong, with good size, while being a freak athlete.

Derinyar · Mar 31, 2015

I know the hips are an issue. The question I have is this, how much of a mark does age give him? 23 isn't terribly old, but he's on the older side of drafted players and is still somewhat of a project.

Avery · Mar 31, 2015

I'm not a fan of him in the first due to the medical issues and perplexing production, but would be fine spending a #2 pick on him.

JoeyBoy718 · Mar 31, 2015

CowboysLaw87 said:
He's the physical prototype, with great power, length, motor, and position flex. As has been said, the fact that he played a 5-technique definitely cost him some production.

As has also been said, his lack of bend around the corner means he frequently forces the QB to move (pressure), but can't always finish the play (sack). So he's more of a distribution than pure sack guy. Add to that the hip injuries, and I can see why he might be there at 27. Still really like him though. I think my 4 guys at this juncture are O'Diggy, Malcom Brown, Kevin Johnson & Eric Kendricks. One will certainly be there.

It's funny. Fans love Crawford because he gets constant pressure despite not getting sacks. Yet we hated Spencer his whole career, naming him Almost Anthony.

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