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Wow...no ability to witness the shooter. No evidence that the guy was Adam Jones...no sign of his car...witness reports from only the men who got shot at...

Be careful espn...not a lot to really go on. I certainly am not going to defend Adam Jones, but this seems like a news story they are reporting for SENSATIONALISM only.

Most of the story is regarding the Vegas incident since the Atlanta "allegations" are so thin...Legal teams get ready...
 

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If that is all ESPN has, they are going to get their arse handed to them in the courtroom, Pac already said he is going to sue.

Dumb arse ESPN........HAAAAABAAAAAAHAAAA!!!!!!
 

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Beast_from_East;2569153 said:
If that is all ESPN has, they are going to get their arse handed to them in the courtroom, Pac already said he is going to sue.

Dumb arse ESPN........HAAAAABAAAAAAHAAAA!!!!!!
He can sue but he will lose. It is too hard to prove malice intended and the jury or judge would need that. Even a hint of an allegation that he was involved is enough for ESPN to bring up his name. If his name appears anywhere in the investigation about this, from the lips of anyone interviewed then they are covered.

He's giving an interview later with Screamin' A. Smith who works for ESPN. He's going to give an exclusive interview to the network he plans to sue?

He's posturing.

ESPN is making a mountain out of a molehill again because it is a lightning rod story, but don't fall for the idea that he will win if he sues tham. Not a chance.
 
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Hostile;2569183 said:
He can sue but he will lose. It is too hard to prove malice intended and the jury or judge would need that. Even a hint of an allegation that he was involved is enough for ESPN to bring up his name. If his name appears anywhere in the investigation about this, from the lips of anyone interviewed then they are covered.

He's giving an interview later with Screamin' A. Smith who works for ESPN. He's going to give an exclusive interview to the network he plans to sue?

He's posturing.

ESPN is making a mountain out of a molehill again because it is a lightning rod story, but don't fall for the idea that he will win if he sues tham. Not a chance.

very accurate statments but have your attorney work on a retainer and give it a shot...(no pun intended)
 

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Pacman has no business being loose on our streets. The guy who he says is extorting him all of a sudden is partying with him in a strip club? Pacman gets in an altercation with a man (who is a former police officer), then all of a sudden, they leave, and as soon as they walk out of the club, the "extorter" walks out too. Moments later shots are fired?

This thing stinks to high heavan. When the story first came out, I agreed with most of you that ESPN didn't have much to go on, but watching this whole story has changed my mind. I don't believe Pacman didn't have any involvement with it. The man is a psychopath, and I hope he never plays another down of professional football.
 

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Hostile;2569183 said:
He can sue but he will lose. It is too hard to prove malice intended and the jury or judge would need that. Even a hint of an allegation that he was involved is enough for ESPN to bring up his name. If his name appears anywhere in the investigation about this, from the lips of anyone interviewed then they are covered.

He's giving an interview later with Screamin' A. Smith who works for ESPN. He's going to give an exclusive interview to the network he plans to sue?

He's posturing.

ESPN is making a mountain out of a molehill again because it is a lightning rod story, but don't fall for the idea that he will win if he sues tham. Not a chance.

Not only that, but if he actually did what ESPN suggests, and he sues ESPN, the true story will have to come out and no expense will be spared to get it. Jones may not want the truth to come out.
 

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Quarterback Coach;2569142 said:
Wow...no ability to witness the shooter. No evidence that the guy was Adam Jones...no sign of his car...witness reports from only the men who got shot at...

Be careful espn...not a lot to really go on. I certainly am not going to defend Adam Jones, but this seems like a news story they are reporting for SENSATIONALISM only.

Most of the story is regarding the Vegas incident since the Atlanta "allegations" are so thin...Legal teams get ready...

ESPN never said PacMan did the shooting. The network said he was involved in the shooting.

The reason the police didn't charge PacMan in connection with the shootings is because it likely didn't have any direct evidence. Unfortunately, association with a criminal in another case isn't evidence of PacMan's involvement in the Atlanta shooting, especially under the burden of proof requirements of a criminal case.

But the circumstantial evidence is overwhelmingly against PacMan, if someone were to file civil charges against him, IMO.

Here is PacMan who says Slugga (the shooter in the Las Vegas night club incident) tried to extort money from him in the Las Vegas shooting hanging out at the Atlanta night club with the same man who tried to send PacMan to jail.

If anyone believes the two were at the same night club, standing next to each other and that was mere coincidence has got to be the dumbest person alive.

Furthermore, ESPN obtained an affidavit in which one of the suspects (?) claims that Slugga said PacMan commissioned the shooting.

PacMan wouldn't win a lawsuit. This story was too thoroughly investigated.

As for sensationalism, of course it's sensationalism. But what does that mean anyway?

ESPN either reported the story when it had all its facts for the story, or it held the story until the offseason. Imagine if ESPN had run the story prior to PacMan's suspension, then the masses from Cowboys Nation would be complaining even more that ESPN is bias.

At any rate, PacMan doesn't have a leg to stand on, and I doubt very seriously any other team takes a chance on him.
 

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tyke1doe;2569262 said:
ESPN never said PacMan did the shooting. The network said he was involved in the shooting.

The reason the police didn't charge PacMan in connection with the shootings is because it likely didn't have any direct evidence. Unfortunately, association with a criminal in another case isn't evidence of PacMan's involvement in the Atlanta shooting, especially under the burden of proof requirements of a criminal case.

Why do you say "unfortunately"?
 

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What difference does any of this make?

In his comeback season, he got suspended.

'nuff said.
 

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Who needs evidence when you have suspicion, innuendo and he said she said? :confused:
 

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Did anyone notice how when he was asked about an 'altercation' happening in the club that night he said no, but he did admit to having 'words' with someone and then said to look at the video because that part was obvious.

Here's the problem.

This idiot doesn't know what's on the video.

The only video is on the front door as you come in and as you go out.

He is making an assumption that there is video of him 'having words' with one of the guys in the shadow video.

I could care less at this point whether he's involved or not anymore. We will never know who is telling the truth on the 'Pacman side' of things because he's always associated with a bunch of thugs who lie, steal and whatever else.

That's his main problem. When he first began getting in trouble in Tenn I am sure the Titans told him to relax and make some changes as far as who he surrounds himself with and he refused to listen to the advice. Instead he thought he could handle the 'thug life' and in the end it bit him in the ***.

And now he is looking to fall back on the 'I have a drinking problem' excuse as to why he found himself in trouble all the time.

I have a different theory.

Instead of a 'drinking problem' I say it's more of a 'thinking problem'.
 

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Juke99;2569272 said:
What difference does any of this make?

In his comeback season, he got suspended.

'nuff said.

On the nosey

He can't stay out of the clubs so he won't be in the league much longer.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2569270 said:
Why do you say "unfortunately"?

Because Pacman is a thug and probably needs to be sent to prison before he actually goes through with something.
 

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Yeagermeister;2569534 said:
On the nosey

He can't stay out of the clubs so he won't be in the league much longer.


but he lub da scrip club..................
 

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Juke99;2569272 said:
What difference does any of this make?

In his comeback season, he got suspended.

'nuff said.

Adam has explained every single run-in. None of them were his fault, Juke. Don't you get it?
 

tyke1doe

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Chocolate Lab;2569270 said:
Why do you say "unfortunately"?

It was more a verbal transition than anything. It was a poor choice of words, though. I wouldn't want our legal system to convict someone without evidence.

Good catch. :)
 

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Quarterback Coach;2569142 said:
Wow...no ability to witness the shooter. No evidence that the guy was Adam Jones...no sign of his car...witness reports from only the men who got shot at...

Be careful espn...not a lot to really go on. I certainly am not going to defend Adam Jones, but this seems like a news story they are reporting for SENSATIONALISM only.

Most of the story is regarding the Vegas incident since the Atlanta "allegations" are so thin...Legal teams get ready...

Because of those items is the reason I feel their were no charges brought up. But him being mention in this incident is just plain STUPID, and just four months after the Vegas Incident.:bang2: :bang2:
 
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