Packaging our Picks

[CoCo]

Could someone with access to the picks chart tell me what we could get if we packaged all of our "extra" picks together for a single pick?

Realizing that you can't trade compensatories, keep those where they apply (rounds 5 & 6) and trade the others in those rounds.

What I'd essentially like to know is leaving one pick each in Rounds 2 through 7 what would be the equivalent value of a single pick in exchange for all our other picks.

Or with a link to the picks value chart I could figure it out myself.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

It's not going to be much, I can tell you that right now.

 

[tomson75]

It's not going to be much, I can tell you that right now.

My guess is an early second....but its' hard to tell these days as most teams arent' going by that chart much. Seems like it's been harder to move around during the draft the last few years. Teams trying to move up have been giving up an awful lot.

 

[Bungarian]

A ham sammich

 

[SLATEmosphere]

My guess is an early second.

A 4th,5th and 7th will get you an early second?

 

[CoCo]

Ok, quick & dirty (just using the 20th slot in applicable rounds) I get that trading a 4th, two 5ths & two 6ths would yield approximately a single pick in the mid to latter part of round #3.

So as excited as some folks are over the fact that we have 11 picks, its still not the equivalent of having our normal allotment of picks. Here's the link to the chart I used.

http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/pick_value_chart.htm

 

[tomson75]

A 4th,5th and 7th will get you an early second?

No...I must have misunderstood. I thought the OP meant trading all of our picks outside of our compensatory picks. i.e. our 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th picks....to get as low a pick as we could.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Ok, quick & dirty (just using the 20th slot in applicable rounds) I get that trading a 4th, two 5ths & two 6ths would yield approximately a single pick in the mid to latter part of round #3.

So as excited as some folks are over the fact that we have 11 picks, its still not the equivalent of having our normal allotment of picks.

Ya, I guess that makes sense but we only have one 6th rounder to trade..but still..wouldn't be a bad idea.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

No...I must have misunderstood. I thought the OP meant trading all of our picks outside of our compensatory picks. i.e. our 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th picks....to get as low a pick as we could.

Ohh I see I see..that's what I figured.

 

[CoCo]

Ya, I guess that makes sense but we only have one 6th rounder to trade..but still..wouldn't be a bad idea.

I figured we had the following based upon a total of 11 picks including 2 compensatory.

1st - none
2nd - 1
3rd - 1
4th - 2
5th - 3 (including one compensatory)
6th - 3 (including one compensatory)
7th - 1

Maybe I've got some of these in the wrong round but I think the total of 11 is correct.

EDIT: Quick check and I think we have two 7ths and only two 6ths maybe so that would lower that potential 3rd round pick a bit if we packaged all the extras (5 picks) and kept a single pick in each round.

Sorry for being so confusing. It'd have been better if I'd have just taken a couple minutes to get my facts straight first.

 

[KingintheNorth]

If we traded every non-compensatory pick we had couldn't we get up to like the 18th or 19th overall pick?

Not that I'm suggesting that. I can't see one player who would be available at 18 that would be worth our whole draft.

 

[jswalker1981]

These are the picks we have including the compensation picks:

RD-PK:

2-51
3-69
4-97
4-113
5-148
5-158
5-Comp
6-184
6-Comp
7-193
7-210

So if we traded all of our extra picks, and leave ourselves with one pick per round (and I'm supposing if having to choose which picks to trade, they would be the lowest in the round, with the exception of compensatory picks), we could trade picks 51, 113, 148, 158, 184, 210. According to the NFL Draft Blitz chart listed earlier, those six picks would equal to 546 pts, which is the 36th pick in the draft. That would give us one pick in each of the rounds except the first round. We would have 6 total picks.

 

[Randy White]

my plan would be to use

Pick #117 ( 4th round )
Pick #156 ( 5th round )
Pick #197 ( 6th Round )

To acquire a top 10 pick in the 2nd round. The teams I'd be targetting would be:

Cleveland ( #36 )
Seattle ( #37 )
Oakland ( #40 )

The Browns DO NOT have a 3rd, 5th, or 7th round draft pick, which leaves them with only 5 picks ( two in the 2nd ). Giving them 3 picks for one might entice them to trade.

Seattle and Oakland might be a tougher customers since they have all of their picks except for their 5th round. They're in a rebuilding mode, however, so they might be tempted to make the move because of the extra draft choices.

Cincinnati, Buffalo, San Francisco and Jacksonville ( Jax just recoup their 7th on a trade with Miami ) have all of their picks, and they're not really in a full rebuilding mode, so I don't see them as an option.

Green Bay have ALL of their picks and then some ( as in 9 picks ) so forget about them.

 

[Randy White]

forget about the so called " value chart ". Teams are not really paying too much attention to it anymore because of the money that the players picked in the top half of the first round are getting.

The trend, as of the last few drafts, has been for " targeted players ". If a team has targeted a player at certain round or pick, and he's there, they've been willing to pay for that player regardless of what the " value chart " says.


:starspin

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

A ham sammich

That's code for "trade them all to Buffalo for T.O.", right? :laugh2:

 

[Beast_from_East]

If we traded every non-compensatory pick we had couldn't we get up to like the 18th or 19th overall pick?

Not that I'm suggesting that. I can't see one player who would be available at 18 that would be worth our whole draft.

Didnt Ditka do that one year with the Saints, trade his whole draft to move up and get Ricky "pothead" Williams???


Yea, that worked out great!!!!

 

[Disturbed]

There are a couple of things wrong with packaging picks to get a high profile player. First, we are a 9-7 team that has a number of real issues that need to be addressed. Second, our past draft history has proven we have a very low "hit or success" ratio when it comes to the draft. Third, we to use the picks for this year or trade for next years draft picks....not overspend on a few guys or even consider FA.

We have been 9-7 three of past four years. An average team that needs better focus, coaching, determination, and higher character guys. We need as many draft picks as we can get.

Jerry, please continue to get rid of bad character and non performing players...focus on young hungry good blue collar guys for the offensive line, aggressive LB and safety, and a decent backup QB.

 

[jswalker1981]

There are a couple of things wrong with packaging picks to get a high profile player. First, we are a 9-7 team that has a number of real issues that need to be addressed. Second, our past draft history has proven we have a very low "hit or success" ratio when it comes to the draft. Third, we to use the picks for this year or trade for next years draft picks....not overspend on a few guys or even consider FA.

We have been 9-7 three of past four years. An average team that needs better focus, coaching, determination, and higher character guys. We need as many draft picks as we can get.

Jerry, please continue to get rid of bad character and non performing players...focus on young hungry good blue collar guys for the offensive line, aggressive LB and safety, and a decent backup QB.

So you just disregard the 13-3 season? I think last year's 9-7 team is more talented than the 9-7 team from four years ago.

 

[lostinomiya]

There are a couple of things wrong with packaging picks to get a high profile player. First, we are a 9-7 team that has a number of real issues that need to be addressed. Second, our past draft history has proven we have a very low "hit or success" ratio when it comes to the draft. Third, we to use the picks for this year or trade for next years draft picks....not overspend on a few guys or even consider FA.

We have been 9-7 three of past four years. An average team that needs better focus, coaching, determination, and higher character guys. We need as many draft picks as we can get.
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If we had as good a draft as last year with some good additions for a few key areas (last year we drafted, what, 6 or 7 players?) would that not be good enough? It would for me...I do not think we are an average team though. Underachieving and ill disciplined perhaps but a lot of talent there.

 

[dbair1967]

So if we traded all of our extra picks, and leave ourselves with one pick per round (and I'm supposing if having to choose which picks to trade, they would be the lowest in the round, with the exception of compensatory picks), we could trade picks 51, 113, 148, 158, 184, 210. According to the NFL Draft Blitz chart listed earlier, those six picks would equal to 546 pts, which is the 36th pick in the draft. That would give us one pick in each of the rounds except the first round. We would have 6 total picks.

There's no way we'd trade 6 picks to move up 15 spots, regardless of what the draft chart states.

On draft day, the actual cost to move up those 15 spots will be alot less than that.