Packers player accused of sexual assaulting ; 1 big time packerplayer in trouble?

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Dawgs0916;3425710 said:
I guess man. Yeah your a hardcore fan, most of us on here are. But I'm sure your in the select few that thought of this as a positive for us as their first thought. If he raped that girl, and gets convicted, all
that means is that he's a sorry POS and there's a woman out there who has to deal with that the rest of her life.

I'm sorry that just was really weak to me when I saw you say that. Not cool at all. In fact you were hoping two players raped her so even more players would be gone so we could win. That's one warped way of thinking.
did you not see cowboyjoe's interview about his draft room at his house? hell if another team's player assassinated the president cowboyjoe would be talking guaranteed W.
 

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Beast_from_East;3425834 said:
Yea, I am having a hard time imagining that as well. How the hell does a guy rape 2 women at the same time???

I mean, while he was raping one girl, did the other girl just stand there and wait for her turn???


This sounds like pure BS to me.
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CowboyMcCoy;3425982 said:
No, I was pointing out the gender bias you have, apparent in how you'd rather see her falsely accuse him and walk than the accusations be true.

To me, it's a no win situation. But if a woman makes accusations, they better be true. If not, she's scummier than a rapist.

JMO.

oh gotcha. Your right I'd rather the accusations not be true, because that means she wasn't raped and the guy gets his name cleared.
 

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jimmy40;3425995 said:
did you not see cowboyjoe's interview about his draft room at his house? hell if another team's player assassinated the president cowboyjoe would be talking guaranteed W.

Lmao the sad thing is your probably right. And there's something seriously wrong with that. But again that's just my opinion.
 

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CowboyMcCoy;3425982 said:
No, I was pointing out the gender bias you have, apparent in how you'd rather see her falsely accuse him and walk than the accusations be true.

To me, it's a no win situation. But if a woman makes accusations, they better be true. If not, she's scummier than a rapist.

JMO.

I don't know about 'scummier than', but it's scummy as all hell.
Falsely accusing a man of rape not only hurts the man's name, and potentially limits his freedom. It also opens him up to all sorts of violations if he does get to jail. What's more, it sets a dangerous precedent for women who do get raped that can contribute to actual rapists getting released.

The articles re: this incident are being careful not to give any details, so it's hard to say, but on the surface, the accusation sounds fishy to me.
 

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Dawgs0916;3426010 said:
oh gotcha. Your right I'd rather the accusations not be true, because that means she wasn't raped and the guy gets his name cleared.


Edit*

Never mind, I struggled with some comprehension issues interpreting your post. My bad, I think you actually changed your mind. It takes a bigger man to do that than to argue why pissing in the wind is a good thing.

Apparently, some people can intelligently see other views without compromising their e-ego.

:)
 

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Idgit;3426037 said:
I don't know about 'scummier than', but it's scummy as all hell.
Falsely accusing a man of rape not only hurts the man's name, and potentially limits his freedom. It also opens him up to all sorts of violations if he does get to jail. What's more, it sets a dangerous precedent for women who do get raped that can contribute to actual rapists getting released.

The articles re: this incident are being careful not to give any details, so it's hard to say, but on the surface, the accusation sounds fishy to me.


I'm going to argue scummier than..

Rape is definitely NOT cool. Not at all. Very evil thing to do. But the torment and torture doesn't last long. As a heterosexual male, I'd rather be raped than imprisoned for 20 years for something I didn't do.

Not that I'd choose either, but if it's up to me I go with the former because it's over quicker.

My Gosh, what would be worse than not having access to CZ for 20 years?

I hope you get my drift and didn't take me the wrong way.

Yes, scummier than.

That's low.
 

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CowboyMcCoy;3426042 said:
I'm going to argue scummier than..

Rape is definitely NOT cool. Not at all. Very evil thing to do. But the torment and torture doesn't last long. As a heterosexual male, I'd rather be raped than imprisoned for 20 years for something I didn't do.

Not that I'd choose either, but if it's up to me I go with the former because it's over quicker.

My Gosh, what would be worse than not having access to CZ for 20 years?

I hope you get my drift and didn't take me the wrong way.

Yes, scummier than.

That's low.


So your response to a woman who was raped is "get over it, that was yesterday"

Because, you know, it didn't last long.
 

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Trendnet;3426045 said:
So your response to a woman who was raped is "get over it, that was yesterday"

Because, you know, it didn't last long.

So is your response to a man who is accused, convicted and sentenced to say, oh 20 years, "get over it"?

It's fun putting words in people's mouth, isn't it?

And, by the way, that's not what I was saying at all. You mustn't be able to read well. I said, neither is a good thing. I called rape "evil". I'm just saying the two things are very different in terms of consequences. I was saying, personally, I'd rather be raped than serve 20 years in the hoosegow for something I didn't do.

Do you get it yet?

I will be happy to slow it down for you.
 

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CowboyMcCoy;3426042 said:
I'm going to argue scummier than..

Rape is definitely NOT cool. Not at all. Very evil thing to do. But the torment and torture doesn't last long. As a heterosexual male, I'd rather be raped than imprisoned for 20 years for something I didn't do.

Not that I'd choose either, but if it's up to me I go with the former because it's over quicker.

My Gosh, what would be worse than not having access to CZ for 20 years?

I hope you get my drift and didn't take me the wrong way.

Yes, scummier than.

That's low.
You obviously don't know any rape victims.
 

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Cover 2;3426057 said:
You obviously don't know many rape victims.


Rick Perry pardoned a guy for rape after he died in prison because DNA evidence proved he was innocent. You obviously don't know many victims of the justice system.

I know what you're implying. The mental aspect is forever; I get it. But don't you think the same holds true for someone who is permanently and falsely incarcerated?
 

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CowboyMcCoy;3426059 said:
Rick Perry pardoned a guy for rape after he died in prison because DNA evidence proved he was innocent. You obviously don't know many victims of the justice system.

I know what you're implying. The mental aspect is forever; I get it. But don't you think the same holds true for someone who is permanently and falsely incarcerated?
I never said it didn't.
 

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By the way, I like the attempt to make your argument rhetorically convincing. You changed it from. "You obviously don't know many rape victims" to "You obviously don't know any rape victims."

That's cutsie wootsie stuff right there.
 

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Cover 2;3426062 said:
I never said it didn't.

Then what's your point? Are you trying to say I don't understand the dynamics of the long-term affects/effects of being a rape victim? I understand the importance of counterarguments. But if you're arguing for the sake of it, it usually diminishes the point because typically you don't have one.

For example, see above.
 

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CowboyMcCoy;3426063 said:
By the way, I like the attempt to make your argument rhetorically convincing. You changed it from. "You obviously don't know many rape victims" to "You obviously don't know any rape victims."

That's cutsie wootsie stuff right there.
It's called a typo.
 

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Cover 2;3426069 said:
It's called a typo.

Let's just say I hope none of us know "many" rape victims unless we're involved in the legal system, social work, nurse, doctor or a rape counselor.

I'll have you know that I know a few myself. And I'm more than aware of the long-term damage it can do.
 

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CowboyMcCoy;3426051 said:
So is your response to a man who is accused, convicted and sentenced to say, oh 20 years, "get over it"?

It's fun putting words in people's mouth, isn't it?

And, by the way, that's not what I was saying at all. You mustn't be able to read well. I said, neither is a good thing. I called rape "evil". I'm just saying the two things are very different in terms of consequences. I was saying, personally, I'd rather be raped than serve 20 years in the hoosegow for something I didn't do.

Do you get it yet?

I will be happy to slow it down for you.
Then you've never been raped. because the consequences are a lot longer than 20 years.
 

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CowboyMcCoy;3426067 said:
Then what's your point? Are you trying to say I don't understand the dynamics of the long-term affects/effects of being a rape victim? I understand the importance of counterarguments. But if you're arguing for the sake of it, it usually diminishes the point because typically you don't have one.

For example, see above.
No, I think he's saying your argument is stupid. Which it is. You are taking things out of context and making them into something they were not.
 

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WoodysGirl;3426076 said:
Then you've never been raped. because the consequences are a lot longer than 20 years.

Are you saying the consequences of being falsely imprisoned for 20 years is over the second they open the prison door to let you free?

At that point, you've lost your whole life and reputation. I'd say it's a good possibility that it could haunt you for.... well, the rest of your life.

Wouldn't you?
 

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speedkilz88;3426079 said:
No, I think he's saying your argument is stupid. Which it is. You are taking things out of context and making them into something they were not.

Which part, specifically, did I take out of context?
 
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