Pacman suspended for 2007; Henry suspended 8 games

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FuzzyLumpkins;1451562 said:
i also think hes a bit premature on the basis that Jones hasnt even been convicted of a crime yet.

I think the standards come with the knowledge that it's not only just being convicted of a crime, but it's also how you conduct yourself as a respectable human being and learn from your previous mistakes.
 

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Good, I think I like this new Commish, he's putting his foot down and isn't putting up with players actions. He hands out the longest suspension ever for an on field incident and has just suspended these two, good for him.
 

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Well, atleast if we are to play the Titans, Newman will be the best CB on the field by default.:eek::
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1451562 said:
What I dont like is the standards Goodell tried to use in the contracts. I mean he justifies doing this on the basis of ridicule?

i also think hes a bit premature on the basis that Jones hasnt even been convicted of a crime yet. if he is exonerated then the NFL is going to get the hammer big time. habeas corpus being violated is a pretty compelling argument.

Jones has been arrested ten times since he was drafted I think this last incident is considered the straw that brok the camel's back not the whole reason he was suspended.
 

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have to tip your hat to the commish. this is a good message to send -- to the players, about their careers and indeed their lives; to the owners, about enabling problem players' self-destructive habits; and to the fans, who deserve to be able to look up to athletes as people who strive for excellence instead of looking down on them as spoiled prima donnas and thugs who get away with things the rest of us would have to pay dearly for.

way to go, boss.

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FuzzyLumpkins;1451562 said:
What I dont like is the standards Goodell tried to use in the contracts. I mean he justifies doing this on the basis of ridicule?

i also think hes a bit premature on the basis that Jones hasnt even been convicted of a crime yet. if he is exonerated then the NFL is going to get the hammer big time. habeas corpus being violated is a pretty compelling argument.


There is nothing wrong with an administrative suspension. It has nothing to do with a conviction.

Why would the NFL get the hammer if he is exonerated? And what is he going to get exonerated from.

He is administratively suspended for conducted detriminetal to the organization or company, not for his arrests.

Habeas corpus has nothing to do with this, it is not a legal proceeding. He was afforded his face to face with the commish.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1451562 said:
What I dont like is the standards Goodell tried to use in the contracts. I mean he justifies doing this on the basis of ridicule?

i also think hes a bit premature on the basis that Jones hasnt even been convicted of a crime yet. if he is exonerated then the NFL is going to get the hammer big time. habeas corpus being violated is a pretty compelling argument.



Reverend Al, is that you?
 

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Sources close to the headquarters say that Upshaw was concerned about losing the player for good and not the actual suspension itself. He wanted to make sure that the players could visit the team facilities and not lose touch with the team support system. If you look closely at the terms, they are permitted to visit team facilities which is unusual for suspensions.
 

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Mr Cowboy;1451588 said:
There is nothing wrong with an administrative suspension. It has nothing to do with a conviction.

Why would the NFL get the hammer if he is exonerated? And what is he going to get exonerated from.

He is administratively suspended for conducted detriminetal to the organization or company, not for his arrests.

Habeas corpus has nothing to do with this, it is not a legal proceeding. He was afforded his face to face with the commish.



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Mr Cowboy;1451588 said:
There is nothing wrong with an administrative suspension. It has nothing to do with a conviction.

Why would the NFL get the hammer if he is exonerated? And what is he going to get exonerated from.

He is administratively suspended for conducted detriminetal to the organization or company, not for his arrests.

Habeas corpus has nothing to do with this, it is not a legal proceeding. He was afforded his face to face with the commish.


Very well stated!! This has nothing to do with exoneration or habeas corpus...it has to do with a punk that will not follow the guidelines implemented by the NFL, period!

You mess with the bull, you get the horns!!

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Kudos to Goodell and to the NFL for once again showing the rest of professional sports how it's done.

This is a serious issue and rather than bickering between the league and union, both sides realize that this is a move to preserve the league's integrity which ultimately benefits both sides.

The NFL should be prepared to fight this battle in the courts as wherever there is money to be made or lost, a parasite/lawyer will show up to take the case. But it's a fight that needs to be won - and ultimately will be won.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1451562 said:
What I dont like is the standards Goodell tried to use in the contracts. I mean he justifies doing this on the basis of ridicule?

i also think hes a bit premature on the basis that Jones hasnt even been convicted of a crime yet. if he is exonerated then the NFL is going to get the hammer big time. habeas corpus being violated is a pretty compelling argument.
I think you mean "due process" Fuzzy. Habeas corpus means "you have the body." It is a mandate by a judge ordering a prisoner to appear before him.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1451562 said:
What I dont like is the standards Goodell tried to use in the contracts. I mean he justifies doing this on the basis of ridicule?

i also think hes a bit premature on the basis that Jones hasnt even been convicted of a crime yet. if he is exonerated then the NFL is going to get the hammer big time. habeas corpus being violated is a pretty compelling argument.

this is called missing the whole point.

It is not the fact that he is convicted of a crime that is getting him suspended. When you flip on the TV and hear. and today NFL CB Pacman jones, has been arrested. It puts the league under the scope. the NFL as a business cannot consistently have the same player arrested for doing stupid things, (throwing money at a stripper and then wanting it back)

As a person the business, if you continually put there face on the map in a negative manner by constantly getting arrested, whether your convicted or not, they will fire you point blank until you get it together.

As for this habeas corpus business, i have no idea what your talking about, as he was given his chance to argue in front of the commissioner about his actions. He obviously didnt do a good enough job
 

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GOOD NEWS. This really is putting the hammer down. HARD.
Clearly the owners and everyone else with a brain have figured out that
they had to stomp on this HARD and right NOW.
 

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WoodysGirl;1451540 said:
Of course, this will be fought by the NFLPA. But I'm glad the hammer was brought down. The question is: Who's next?

Im not so sure the NFLPA will fight these suspensions, there are a lot of influential players around the league that appear to be in favor of more harsh penalties and want to see the league cleaned up.
 
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