Palm Beach Post: Quinn's draft drop still stings

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Quinn's draft drop still stings

By ANDREW ABRAMSON

Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

Wednesday, June 27, 2007

PALM BEACH GARDENS — What could have been a dream scenario for Dolphins fans became nothing more than a tease.

But Quinn, in town for the NFL's rookie symposium at PGA National, wore a Cleveland Browns shirt. He said he was stunned when the Dolphins passed over him and instead drafted Ohio State receiver Ted Ginn Jr. with the ninth pick in the NFL Draft.

"At that point we pretty much thought it was a done deal," Quinn said.

Quinn said Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis had talked with the Dolphins, and was led to believe Miami would select Quinn if he was available.

"That was something said to (Weis by the Dolphins)," Quinn said.

Weis and Dolphins officials were unavailable for comment Tuesday, but Quinn said he's come to terms with being drafted No. 22 overall - far below his projected status. The Dolphins elected to go with Ginn, before drafting quarterback John Beck out of Brigham Young in the second round.

"A team's going to pick based on what they need," Quinn said. "Maybe (drafting Ginn and Beck is) what they wanted all along and they were trying to hide that."

On Tuesday all 255 rookies participated in a clinic with kids from the Palm Beach Gardens Pop Warner football team.

Ginn and Beck were there, signing autographs and receiving their share of media interest. But the spotlight was on Quinn, the highest-profile rookie despite his draft free fall.

Dolphins fans, hoping for a long-term solution at quarterback, wanted that spotlight to take place in Miami.

"When it got to the Dolphins' pick, I knew there'd be a lot of pressure (for Miami to draft him) just because he was predicted to go so high," Beck said. "I don't think anybody would have guessed him to fall (past the Dolphins)."

Quinn said that a week after the draft, his friends e-mailed him a video clip on YouTube of the Dolphins' draft party fiasco. Fans booed coach Cam Cameron, and walked out of Dolphins headquarters after the team passed on Quinn.

"It feels good that a team's fans would feel that way about you," Quinn said.

Quinn spent hours waiting to be drafted while cameras chronicled his obvious frustration before he and his agent were led to a private room. The Browns eventually took him with the 22nd pick, though many anticipated they would draft him with the third overall pick.

Instead, the Browns went with offensive tackle Joe Thomas at No. 3, and then traded up to select Quinn at No. 22.

The difference cost Quinn millions of dollars, and his contract negotiations with Cleveland are stalling.

Cleveland coach Romeo Crennel said Quinn is in the running with Charlie Frye and Derek Anderson for the starting job. But Quinn may hold out while trying to land a contract for more money than is typical of a 22nd pick.

"I have complete faith in ... the Browns in getting this done," Quinn said. "I'd think they'd want to get me signed if they want me to compete for the starting job."

Quinn spoke with Beck this week, but Quinn sees Miami's decision coming down to the Dolphins wanting Ginn over Quinn, and not necessarily Beck over Quinn.

"There's so much emphasis put on where guys go in the draft," Quinn said. "You never look back at Tom Brady and say, 'Oh, he was a sixth-round pick, that's miraculous.' He was a great player all along.

"(Not drafting me) was something between (Dolphins General Manager) Randy Mueller and Coach Cameron and I don't have any hard feelings toward them. That was their decision, and Ted Ginn's a great player. I'm sure they're going to be happy with him."

Noteworthy: Ginn and Beck both said they will sign contracts before training camp opens.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphins/content/sports/epaper/2007/06/27/a1c_quinn_0627.html
 

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I still get a chuckle from this. The Charlie Weis notes are great.
 

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"I have complete faith in ... the Browns in getting this done," Quinn said. "I'd think they'd want to get me signed if they want me to compete for the starting job."

No Quinn, YOU should want to compete for the starting job.
 

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Too bad, so sad. He should have won a big game in college. Oh and played against better teams. He should be happy he was selected 22nd; I mean two years ago he wasn't even sniffing the first day of the draft.
 

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Angus;1539170 said:
Quinn said he's come to terms with being drafted No. 22 overall
Quinn may hold out while trying to land a contract for more money than is typical of a 22nd pick.
He's come to terms with it, huh?
 

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Quinn's draft drop still stings
Imagine how the guys who didn't get drafted feel.

Stuff like this gets old to me. Every year, we get guys who whine about where they were drafted. If you're drafted or have a chance to make the team, shut it.
 

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WoodysGirl;1539203 said:
Imagine how the guys who didn't get drafted feel.

Stuff like this gets old to me. Every year, we get guys who whine about where they were drafted. If you're drafted or have a chance to make the team, shut it.


Agreed.
 

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WoodysGirl;1539203 said:
Imagine how the guys who didn't get drafted feel.

Stuff like this gets old to me. Every year, we get guys who whine about where they were drafted. If you're drafted or have a chance to make the team, shut it.

It is ALOT of money he lost.

Especially when he could have come out the year before and owned the place.
 

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Vintage;1539184 said:
No Quinn, YOU should want to compete for the starting job.

Bingo. This kid is going to be a complete failure. Not only does he have issues with his skills, he is almost topped out potential wise, and he has an ***-backwards outlook on everything. Not only would he have been a bust as a top 10 pick, he would be a bust as a second round pick.

:loser:
 

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superpunk;1539214 said:
It is ALOT of money he lost.

Especially when he could have come out the year before and owned the place.
I'm not sure where he would have landed in '06. He wouldn't have been drafted higher than Leinart who went, what, 10th or so? He might have been 5 or so spots higher. Or he may have dropped past 22nd.

Then you have to consider the cap situation from this year to last. I'm sure the rookie contracts might jump a little bit.
 

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Love how so many are so sure Quinn is going to fail. I guess you were the same guys who were so sure Henson was going to be a great QB.
 

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burmafrd;1539224 said:
Love how so many are so sure Quinn is going to fail. I guess you were the same guys who were so sure Henson was going to be a great QB.


Only one person in this thread said Quinn was going to fail.
 

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theogt;1539218 said:
I'm not sure where he would have landed in '06. He wouldn't have been drafted higher than Leinart who went, what, 10th or so? He might have been 5 or so spots higher. Or he may have dropped past 22nd.

Then you have to consider the cap situation from this year to last. I'm sure the rookie contracts might jump a little bit.
He definitely would have been the third QB taken in the draft the year before, I dont see how it can be argued otherwise.
 

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Oh, come on Vintage. You know more will pile on. Maybe they don't come out and SAY it, but that is their attitude.
 

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3 rd QB taken? interesting. Since at THAT time he was rated the top QB by Scouts and several others in their Post Bowl ratings- before he made it clear he was coming back.
 

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Angus;1539170 said:
Quinn spoke with Beck this week, but Quinn sees Miami's decision coming down to the Dolphins wanting Ginn over Quinn, and not necessarily Beck over Quinn.

"There's so much emphasis put on where guys go in the draft," Quinn said. "You never look back at Tom Brady and say, 'Oh, he was a sixth-round pick, that's miraculous.' He was a great player all along.

"(Not drafting me) was something between (Dolphins General Manager) Randy Mueller and Coach Cameron and I don't have any hard feelings toward them. That was their decision, and Ted Ginn's a great player. I'm sure they're going to be happy with him."

There have been reports that Miami had Beck rated higher on their board than Quinn. I wonder who is right? Those or the player who is still struggling to cope with it, regardless of what this article states.
 

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burmafrd;1539230 said:
Oh, come on Vintage. You know more will pile on. Maybe they don't come out and SAY it, but that is their attitude.
I will openly say I think he'll "fail." I've been saying it for a long time now. I think he's no better than Eli Manning will ever be. Not horrible, but not Pro Bowl material.

Alexander;1539232 said:
There have been reports that Miami had Beck rated higher on their board than Quinn. I wonder who is right? Those or the player who is still struggling to cope with it, regardless of what this article states.
Indeed. There were reports of teams ranking him as a late 2nd/3rd rounder -- something I was derided for suggesting during the late '06 season.
 
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