Palm Beach Post: Quinn's draft drop still stings

[BouncingCheese]

There have been reports that Miami had Beck rated higher on their board than Quinn. I wonder who is right? Those or the player who is still struggling to cope with it, regardless of what this article states.

John Beck is going to work in Miami with (Cam Cameron, is it?) the new head coach.

Perfect fit for that Qb imo.

 

[burmafrd]

a few teams might have had Quinn in the 2nd rd. So what? A few teams probably had Russell in the 2nd rd- I heard some RUMORS of that as well. The Boys had him in the top 10, so did a lot of other teams. the CONSENSUS was that BQ was a top 10 prospect.

 

[theogt]

a few teams might have had Quinn in the 2nd rd. So what? A few teams probably had Russell in the 2nd rd- I heard some RUMORS of that as well. The Boys had him in the top 10, so did a lot of other teams. the CONSENSUS was that BQ was a top 10 prospect.

I don't think there were any teams that had Russell rated as a 2nd rounder. There weren't any rumors of that that I'm aware of. I think you're just making things up as you go now.

Who cares what the consensus is. It was wrong this year, if you can say that such a thing exists.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Highest profile rookie? I would go into the reason for that but it wouldn't be well received on this site..:laugh2:

I will say one word to describe this jerk: OVERRATED

 

[burmafrd]

In YOUR opinion the consensus was wrong. And there were RUMORS-just as valid as the ones YOU claim- that a couple of teams had Russell in the 2nd rd.

 

[burmafrd]

I notice some of Romos biggest fans saying that he was not getting good protection and the D was putting too much pressure on him. Thats why he did not look so good. BQ had that problem the WHOLE last season. He even had a WR with the drops as well(McKnight). He had ONE really good WR, a somewhat decent 2nd, no 3rd, and the really good TE he had was injured a lot. That up against what was the 12th or so toughest schedule in the nation. tougher then OSU, Michigan, Texas.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I notice some of Romos biggest fans saying that he was not getting good protection and the D was putting too much pressure on him. Thats why he did not look so good. BQ had that problem the WHOLE last season. He even had a WR with the drops as well(McKnight). He had ONE really good WR, a somewhat decent 2nd, no 3rd, and the really good TE he had was injured a lot. That up against what was the 12th or so toughest schedule in the nation. tougher then OSU, Michigan, Texas.

Oh would you stop being a Brady Quinn/Notre Dame apologist for crying out loud! So I guess the reports from minicamps of him being inaccurate were far fetched too huh...

 

[superpunk]

Did someone summon me?

I choose you, Quinnachu!

 

[burmafrd]

I have just as much a RIGHT to defend him as for you to attack him. This is still a free board, last time I looked.

 

[BouncingCheese]

Did someone summon me?

I choose you, Quinnachu!

:laugh2:

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I have just as much a RIGHT to defend him as for you to attack him. This is still a free board, last time I looked.

Okay, I will send Brady boy over there to fix you a cup of hot cocoa in minute...:laugh2: Quinn is what he is..nothing with make that change.

 

[Vintage]

I notice some of Romos biggest fans saying that he was not getting good protection and the D was putting too much pressure on him. Thats why he did not look so good. BQ had that problem the WHOLE last season. He even had a WR with the drops as well(McKnight). He had ONE really good WR, a somewhat decent 2nd, no 3rd, and the really good TE he had was injured a lot. That up against what was the 12th or so toughest schedule in the nation. tougher then OSU, Michigan, Texas.

Actually, this is a valid point.

 

[BouncingCheese]

I notice some of Romos biggest fans saying that he was not getting good protection and the D was putting too much pressure on him. Thats why he did not look so good. BQ had that problem the WHOLE last season. He even had a WR with the drops as well(McKnight). He had ONE really good WR, a somewhat decent 2nd, no 3rd, and the really good TE he had was injured a lot. That up against what was the 12th or so toughest schedule in the nation. tougher then OSU, Michigan, Texas.

I agree with you burmfrd and Vintage to a point.

I thought he had a very bad offensive line IMHO....

Even with that said I still don't know about him.

He hasn't won a big game in college against a top 25 team and that is a concern if I am a GM.

 

[burmafrd]

2005 game against unbeaten and #1 USC. If not for the illegal push that got leinart across the goal line ON THE LAST PLAY ND wins that game- BQ took them down the field to go ahead in the last 2 minutes. ND just did not have the defensive talent to play the best - not even close. There was not one decent offensive team that hung up less then 21 pts on ND the last 2 years. The good ones all put up 30; the best around 40.

 

[theogt]

In YOUR opinion the consensus was wrong. And there were RUMORS-just as valid as the ones YOU claim- that a couple of teams had Russell in the 2nd rd.

The consensus was that he was a top 10 pick this year. He wasn't. How is that my opinion?

I notice some of Romos biggest fans saying that he was not getting good protection and the D was putting too much pressure on him. Thats why he did not look so good. BQ had that problem the WHOLE last season. He even had a WR with the drops as well(McKnight). He had ONE really good WR, a somewhat decent 2nd, no 3rd, and the really good TE he had was injured a lot. That up against what was the 12th or so toughest schedule in the nation. tougher then OSU, Michigan, Texas.

I don't care about his stats. I don't care about his defense or his WRs. It was when he would stand there with all the time in the world with a WR wide open only to throw it in the dirt or sail it over the receiver's head. He did that about about 4-5 times a game. It was maddening.

When Romo starts doing that, you'll see me jump all over his ***.

 

[Roughneck]

Love how so many are so sure Quinn is going to fail.

I have no reason to believe that Brady Quinn will fail as an NFL QB but then again I also have no reason to believe that he'll be a successful one either. Right now he's just a rookie QB on a bad team that is trying to learn a new offense, which means that, whatever action Quinn does see this fall, most likely will not be very pretty for Cleveland fans. Thus is the life of your average rookie QB in the NFL. Whether he will be a success or a failure in the League will not be determined during the 2007 Season but then again this is pretty much the only season in which I will give a rat's *** how the Browns/Quinn do. So he can go ahead and have a long productive NFL career for all I care. As long as he follows the path crappiness in his first year and sets us up with a nice juicy top ten pick in 2008.

 

[burmafrd]

The arguement is that some are claiming he was NOT rated a top 10 pick. He slipped- like Leinart the year before, Brady, Marino, etc.

 

[burmafrd]

Browns are going to stink to a certain extent no matter what this year. Just a matter of how bad.

 

[theogt]

The arguement is that some are claiming he was NOT rated a top 10 pick. He slipped- like Leinart the year before, Brady, Marino, etc.

Well, the "consensus" was that he would be picked in the top 10 this year. That "consensus" turned out wrong. So what's the point of saying he was a "consensus" top 10 pick last year? He may have slipped then as well. Teams would certainly have been hesitant to draft a guy that high with only 1 good season. Where the fans think a player will go and what the NFL GMs think of players is sometimes a big difference.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Quinn should build a bridge and get over it..........