Pantera vs Metallica

[YosemiteSam]

Metallica but it's close for me. Pantera is the better heavy metal band, but Metallica is far more diverse. Real question is Dimebag vs.Hammett. Which ever one of those two you choose is probably your band winner.

For me it would be more Hetfield vs Dime.

Dime was a flashy lead player, but I never felt over all he was that great as a lead. (though he had a few kick*** ones) As a rhythm guitarist who wrote grooving music. The only other guitarist I put in his league is Tony Iommi. That said, Hetfield later in his career started writing more grooving music starting on the Black album. Though he too was an extremely talented rhythm guitarist. Hell Dave Mustaine is right up there too.

I was never a huge fan of Tony Iommi's lead either.

When you talk Slayer, man. They wrote some completely different music. Driving riffs throwing in single note patterns in the middle of it. They were an entity all their own in style.

Hammett is one of my all time favorite lead guitarist because his leads weren't all flash. They had their own life. His leads were like side journey during the song.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

For me it would be more Hetfield vs Dime.

Dime was a flashy lead player, but I never felt over all he was that great as a lead. (though he had a few kick*** ones) As a rhythm guitarist who wrote grooving music. The only other guitarist I put in his league is Tony Iommi. That said, Hetfield later in his career started writing more grooving music starting on the Black album. Though he too was an extremely talented rhythm guitarist. Hell Dave Mustaine is right up there too.

I was never a huge fan of Tony Iommi's lead either.

When you talk Slayer, man. They wrote some completely different music. Driving riffs throwing in single note patterns in the middle of it. They were an entity all their own in style.

Hammett is one of my all time favorite lead guitarist because his leads weren't all flash. They had their own life. His leads were like side journey during the song.

Kirk got lazy and started to depend on the wah wah pedal too much starting with the black album.

 

[Hardline]

Metallica because they gave us metallica and megadeth.

Did not like anything the guys from Pantera did after Pantera either on Phil's side or the brothers side.

If metallica did not punk out for years it would not be close.

Now if we could have had the Abbott brothers in Metallica instead of Lars and wah wah pedal Kirk... Now that would be wicked.

I like the way you think

 

[darthseinfeld]

Metallica.

There aren't many bands, let alone metal bands, out there that had a peak like Metallica did. Their first 5 albums can all be argued to be right up there at the top of being some of the best albums ever created.

I mean, right out of the gate Metallica was killing it. Their near decade long dominance as a band is right up there with what the Beatles did for rock music in a 10 year span.

I think a better competitor would be Iron Maiden

I think Hallowed Be Thy Name was the greatest metal song ever

 

[darthseinfeld]

Kill Em All
Ride the Lightning
Master of Puppets.

There it ends.

No love for And Justice For All?

Im an old school Metallica fan. I wouldn't necessarily put ot on the same pedestal as Puppets or Ride the Lightning I always thought And Justice for All doesnt get it due from the old shool fans. I get that they lost alot of bass with Cliffs passing, and its ila slicker production. However, And Justice for All, Harvester of Sorrow, Frayed Ends of Sanity, Dyers Eve are some seriously good jams

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Metallica is heavy metal for beginners that after you listen to for a little while you graduate to better heavy metal.

That being said.
I rarely listen to mainstream metal.
I listen to bands most people never heard of

Metallica borders on thrash on many of their songs. Hardly for beginners. But I see what you are posting. Can’t be taken too seriously.

Exactly. It's very common though. Seems like nothing but a herd mentality of contrarians who rail against Metallica and get self-enjoyment out of it..

Absolutely NOBODY can deny their impact and sheer talent.

Co-signed.

 

[CF74]

Metallica although Pantera’s best song vs Metallica’s best song is a different story. Metallica gets the nod on quantity as others have already stated...

 

[YosemiteSam]

I think Hallowed Be Thy Name was the greatest metal song ever

I love Iron Maiden, but that **** is soft rock!

Metal has anger and full on aggression!

 

[YosemiteSam]

Kill Em All
Ride the Lightning
Master of Puppets.

There it ends.

Nah, Dyers Eve off Justice is still one of my favorite Metallica songs that isn't on those albums. It's right up there with Battery.

That said, I'm not just a full blown thrash guy. I love music and not just full throttle stuff. Those albums are just Metallica's albums that only had like 1-2 songs that were just okay and the rest were gold. (though, Puppets and Lightning had exactly ZERO non-great songs)

For Justice, the great songs are Blackened (even with the crappy drum sound and complete lack of base) the song itself is awesome. The The Shortest Straw, Havester of Sorrow, and Dyers Eve are fantastic. (One I guess BURNED OUT WAY OVER PLAYED) Dyers Eve and Havester are by far the best songs)

It took me a while, but I like several songs on Death Magnetic now. Several of those are pretty heavy too. Cyanide, All Nightmare Long, The Day that Never Comes (except the THIS I SWARE part), The End of the Line, That was Just Your Life)

Load and Reload is mostly junk, but the good songs are pretty good. From LOAD: Ain't my.... Hero of the Day, Bleeding Me, Until it Sleeps are good, and 2x4 is pretty good, but my favorite is King Nothing.

RELOAD: Fuel, Better Than You, The Memory Remains are good. The rest can probably go out with the bath water.

I listen to St. Anger once and never again. Can't name a single song so....

So far, I've listened to Hardwired once... Haven't even tried again and I can't name a single song.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I love Iron Maiden, but that **** is soft rock!

Metal has anger and full on aggression!

Its also a song to did a tremendous amount to forward that style of music.

 

[DanteEXT]

Can I pick neither?

 

[YosemiteSam]

Can I pick neither?

Yes, but we will have to delete you from existence.

 

[MizzouCowboy4]

Yes, but we will have to delete you from existence.

 

[DanteEXT]

Yes, but we will have to delete you from existence.

Sorry, just not much of a metal fan.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Sorry, just not much of a metal fan.

DELETION IN ...5...4...3...2...

 

[BillyBates]

Kill Em All
Ride the Lightning
Master of Puppets.

There it ends.

I couldn't agree more, their black album was the death of that band for me.what really freaked me out was their ''new look'' did they all hold hands and go to super cuts together? when there looks and commercialism took over from the music they where dead to me. sell outs and fraud's. Pantera hands down

 

[SlammedZero]

No love in here for the Black Album? That was an amazing album!!

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

neither

 

[JoeKing]

This isn't a competition people. It never was. Anybody that knew Dimebag will tell you he believed this world was big enough for all of us to get along and enjoy each other's differences. The Abbott brothers were two of the coolest dudes that ever walked this earth and god could only allow these two gifts to remain out of heaven so long. These two rocked hard and did it right. I miss them. Always will. RIP by brothers.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Dont know any pantera songs lol