Parcells needs to make up his freaking mind!

[Bob Sacamano]

might as well rename the thread

I hate Parcells

 

[Bleu Star]

might as well rename the thread

I hate Parcells

So you think it's ok for a coach to hold a team hostage for 1 month while other teams enjoy shopping sprees?

If he decides to call it quits this late into the game we may end up with just another Dave Campo. The thought of that makes my head hurt.

Some of you seem to think he's so assuredly coming back. That's nonsense. The guy is well known for bouncing outta town after spending a nominal time with teams...

 

[Bob Sacamano]

So you think it's ok for a coach to hold a team hostage for 1 month while other teams enjoy shopping sprees?

what shopping spree? a horrible franchise hired a coach, like that wasn't bound to happen sooner or later, that's the only activity I see

the offseason doesn't officially start till after Feb. 2nd, we're not going to be missing out on much, and it's being reported that Bill is in contact w/ his staff and player agents, most likely our impending FAs, so it's not like he's holed up somewhere in the Mojave w/ only a transistor radio

 

[iceberg]

Yeah as if any coach would sign such an agreement. Jerry does that, Bill tells the press and boom, no other coach with any other option ever signs on to be Cowboys' Head Coach.

and what owner would allow a coach who doesn't even know if he'll be here next year hire a DC for his team that he'll be saddled with?

and what DC would want to come to dallas right now unless it was a parcells buddy or promo from within knowing it's a 1 year term possibly?

till parcells makes up his poor little overworked, underpaid and underachieving mind, we're stuck waiting.

 

[iceberg]

what shopping spree? a horrible franchise hired a coach, like that wasn't bound to happen sooner or later, that's the only activity I see

the offseason doesn't officially start till after Feb. 2nd, we're not going to be missing out on much, and it's being reported that Bill is in contact w/ his staff and player agents, most likely our impending FAs, so it's not like he's holed up somewhere in the Mojave w/ only a transistor radio

i'll agree the "shopping spree" is a bit like 2 minutes into free agency and us not signing someone would be considered a horrible twist of fate and we're slackers...drama for the sake of drama talking.

HOWEVER - i also feel that parcells indecision has a direct impact on the team and that's what we saw last year.

coach in limbo, team joins him. all the "well they're paid good $ to play anyway!!!" crap is just that - crap. parcells is paid to coach, not be our own built in soap opera.

 

[Woods]

It's been well over a week since the Seattle game.

I find it difficult to imagine that JJ doesn't know what BP is going to do.

Even with letting Zimmer go and not matching, JJ thought about it (well, maybe not too long) and he MUST have talked with BP.

My best guess is that BP is staying. And BP is probably deciding what to do at DC. We'll probably have a flurry of news on the entire coaching staff in the next week or two.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

So you think it's ok for a coach to hold a team hostage for 1 month while other teams enjoy shopping sprees?

If he decides to call it quits this late into the game we may end up with just another Dave Campo. The thought of that makes my head hurt.

Some of you seem to think he's so assuredly coming back. That's nonsense. The guy is well known for bouncing outta town after spending a nominal time with teams...

Man alive I love the drama.

How is he holding the team hostage...seriously.

Jerry just said the other day...If he wanted an answer he could get an answer that night.

Sounds like he already knows the answer but they are just no to concerned with some screaming and impatient fans to tell anyone OR jerry already has a plan in place if he believes bill is leaving.

Shopping Sprees?
What are you babbling about?
Atlanta Hires a HC, Capers is given an extension, Saban goes to Bama and Whizzer is signed to the cards.

What other shopping spree? Of all of those guys the only HC I would even consider is Petrino, furthermore we asked Capers about the DC job.

Shopping Spree?

Oh..maybe you mean the FAs out there just waiting to be snatched up...oops wait, not FA time yet.

All these people complaining holding a team hostage, about not spending money, what about FA, what about the draft, he is not doing nothing.

Yet each time there is evidence to the contrary.

I believe Jerry already knows the answer. They problem is he is no telling anyone yet and that is getting everyones undies in a twist.

 

[iceberg]

It's been well over a week since the Seattle game.

I find it difficult to imagine that JJ doesn't know what BP is going to do.

Even with letting Zimmer go and not matching, JJ thought about it (well, maybe not too long) and he MUST have talked with BP.

My best guess is that BP is staying. And BP is probably deciding what to do at DC. We'll probably have a flurry of news on the entire coaching staff in the next week or two.

and i wonder how many are really comfortable with a lame duck coach making all the coaching decisions that may or may not be in place next year, depending on who we go after.

the new coach will want to do things their own way. that gives us limited movement in the parcells world and a total gamble outside of it.

 

[jackrussell]

I believe Jerry already knows the answer. They problem is he is no telling anyone yet and that is getting everyones undies in a twist.

I think so also.

Reminds me an awful lot of the developing a QB drama. People weren't seeing it, so it wasn't happening.

 

[Bleu Star]

coach in limbo, team joins him. all the "well they're paid good $ to play anyway!!!" crap is just that - crap. parcells is paid to coach, not be our own built in soap opera.

I was going to type a drawn out answer in reply but iceberg summed it up perfectly for me. Thanks iceberg.

I put about as much stock in "media reports" as I do in the end of the world being right around the corner.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

and i wonder how many are really comfortable with a lame duck coach making all the coaching decisions that may or may not be in place next year, depending on who we go after.

the new coach will want to do things their own way. that gives us limited movement in the parcells world and a total gamble outside of it.

That is a legit concern...when talking about bringing in another DC.

But here is something to think about.

If the money is right, if there is a chance to prove that as a DC you have the ability to turn around the defense...than a coach could use this as a "contract" year for the following year.

If they do well they get a chance at being a HC for either cowboys or another team the following season.

Sure it is a gamble, but taking any new job is a gamble in the NFL these days.

 

[aikemirv]

Please explain the term "lame duck coach" and how this applies to Bill Parcells situation.

Why does what one coach is going to do the following year have any effect on the current year?

Now, as far as assistants go, it could create a problem hiring them to a 1 year contract. If we get a big name DC in here it almost has to be with the understanding that if successful, he is first on the list for succession.

What is so bad about that?

Lame duck stuff is overblown! It is just an excuse for those that want him gone and that is fine if you do but year to year is not a problem IMO.

 

[iceberg]

I think so also.

Reminds me an awful lot of the developing a QB drama. People weren't seeing it, so it wasn't happening.

and he's STILL had to do some developing on the field, didn't he? he went through the same growing pains all young qb's go through. we just put it off for 3 years and called it development.

 

[iceberg]

That is a legit concern...when talking about bringing in another DC.

But here is something to think about.

If the money is right, if there is a chance to prove that as a DC you have the ability to turn around the defense...than a coach could use this as a "contract" year for the following year.

If they do well they get a chance at being a HC for either cowboys or another team the following season.

Sure it is a gamble, but taking any new job is a gamble in the NFL these days.

which is why you try to minimize it with smart choices. unless the hired DC has a shot at HC next year, i doubt any "valid" DC will want to be 2nd fiddle to parcells anyway.

i don't disagree it's a gamble, but why intentionally make it harder than it has to be simply to appease some over the hill man who zombies around sidelines lost and confused and can't get the team up for important games anymore?

 

[iceberg]

Please explain the term "lame duck coach" and how this applies to Bill Parcells situation.

Why does what one coach is going to do the following year have any effect on the current year?

Now, as far as assistants go, it could create a problem hiring them to a 1 year contract. If we get a big name DC in here it almost has to be with the understanding that if successful, he is first on the list for succession.

What is so bad about that?

Lame duck stuff is overblown! It is just an excuse for those that want him gone and that is fine if you do but year to year is not a problem IMO.

because coaches, when the come in, have their own way of doing things.

if parcells is going to be here only 1 more year, then it's failure or success time and only the superbowl would be a success. anything else - again, why bother?

why should a coach who's only here 1 more year (if even that) be able to pick the coaching staff for the next coach? why would a coach want to come in knowing in a year his job is up in the air again?

we're in a parcells friendly mode if he stays and that limits who we can get, why we get 'em, who would want to come here, and so forth.

if he leaves, we can put it in our rear-view mirror and think long term again.

not 1 more year THEN Long term.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

which is why you try to minimize it with smart choices. unless the hired DC has a shot at HC next year, i doubt any "valid" DC will want to be 2nd fiddle to parcells anyway.

i don't disagree it's a gamble, but why intentionally make it harder than it has to be simply to appease some over the hill man who zombies around sidelines lost and confused and can't get the team up for important games anymore?

Yes...Three things might make it more attractive.

1. Money...money can make the world go round and make some coaches do things they never thought they would. Marty had said at one time he could never coach for Danny...but money, and a few provisions, changed that.

2. If he was told that after Bill leaves he would be HC.

3. Outside reach and conspiracy theory reason If they got someone like LeBeau and told him they would be bringing in Cowher the next year. Like I said...outside reach I know.

 

[iceberg]

Yes...Three things might make it more attractive.

1. Money...money can make the world go round and make some coaches do things they never thought they would. Marty had said at one time he could never coach for Danny...but money, and a few provisions, changed that.

2. If he was told that after Bill leaves he would be HC.

3. Outside reach and conspiracy theory reason If they got someone like LeBeau and told him they would be bringing in Cowher the next year. Like I said...outside reach I know.

valid - sure. but still option limiting.

 

[BulletBob]

I believe Jerry already knows the answer. They problem is he is no telling anyone yet and that is getting everyones undies in a twist.

I agree with you here.

I also put forward a conspiracy theory last week which would explain the delay and the public statements: that Jerry has already told Bill he will not be back, and he wants it to appear that it is Bill's decision.

Allow me to extend my conspiracy theory well beyond the bounds of reality on this dreary, boring Monday afternoon.

OK - so Bill has been asked to leave by Jerry. Jerry has created the impression that it was Bill's decision all along, since it feeds Bill's ego, and doesn't appear that JJ has fired another legendary coach.

Why draw it out?

First of all, it injects more drama into the situation, and lends credibility to the story that Bill agonized over the decision.

Secondly, they are probably using this time to negotiate Parcells' severance package and ....




... drumroll, please ...




Jimmy Johnson's salary requirements. If Jimmy backs out of the deal, then Parcells becomes Option B. So, the delay is really about locking up Jimmah for another run.

Come on, I said it was a boring Monday afternoon.

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[conner01]

most of you here know that jeery loves the spotlight. so he will wait till the week of the super bowl to announce bill is coming back so it gets a ton of coverage. you think jerry does'nt already know what bill is gonna do?
i think jerry wants him back for one more year because after next season cowher,lovie, and fisher could all go free. think about it.
i think jerry wants fisher and knows he will not sign an extension with tenn. so if he can get one more year form bill he can get his man.if he hires a guy this year he can't hire another next year.
i think jerry is waiting for his guy and the right time to announce bill comiong back to get a lot of media attention

 

[Bleu Star]

... drumroll, please ...




Jimmy Johnson's salary requirements. If Jimmy backs out of the deal, then Parcells becomes Option B. So, the delay is really about locking up Jimmah for another run.

Come on, I said it was a boring Monday afternoon.

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