Parsons and Bijan working out together

[BermyStar]

Not ungrateful, but it didn’t get us to where we want to go ultimately. I know it’s not his fault, but just saying taking a running back in the first round is probably not a good idea when we have other needs.

By this logic non of our first round draft picks have gotten us to the promised land in over 20 years. So I suppose the o ly position left ti try is kicker?

The discussion about what it means when a RB finishes his rookie season is a better argument. If Bijan lives up to the hype we are put in position to pay a fat price at a position that no longer holds as much value... or we spent a 1st on a one contract player.

 

[Flamma]

That's why when Zeke was playing 4D chess and Held out He further negated all the Benefits of having the extra year

How did the hold out negate the benefits of the extra year?

 

[Flamma]

Haha

Hook 'em, 'metches.


Ding, ding, ding....

Now get ready for the BPA argument.

Forget the BPA argument, it's situational. Every team is different. a lot of times a team has a 2-3 year window. If a running back can make a big difference in that window, who cares if he gone in 3-4 years?

Today players can no longer realistically hold out. Lets say that was the rules back in 2016. Had the Cowboys won a SB anywhere between '16-'19, and Dallas didn't extend Elliott's contract, who would have cared about where he was drafted? No one.

 

[Flamma]

Preach!!!! I don’t understand. We drafted Zeke high, gave him a bunch of carries, paid him handsomely, and watched his production decline yearly. Yet, these same people want to draft Bijan. So after 4 years what are we going to do with Bijan? Let him go or pay him alot of money

You let him go after 4 years. What's so bad about that? Other than the fact they could get a pretty damn good RB in a later round. Then do the same thing.

 

[Hadenough]

After seeing what happened with Zeke and Barkley I just am torn about Bijan. It would probably be better to take a RB later. The trenches is where the good teams win games.

 

[Flamma]

Wow, thanks for the detailed answer! By the way, I’m no fan of the RB in the first, but you know Jerry. I just think if Dallas DOES go for Robinson, they should play him for four, franchise the fifth, then draft another one. RBs aren’t as important as they used to be. I say protect your QB, and go after theirs.

The Cowboys would have to trade up to draft Robinson. When was the last time you saw Jerry do that? More than a decade ago. Dallas is going to sit there at 26.

 

[TexasHillbilly]

One can only hope to have a shot at him, but its not going to happen. The iggles will move ahead just to spite us.

LOL. The eagles will never forgive us for taking Lamb.

 

[ESisback]

The Cowboys would have to trade up to draft Robinson. When was the last time you saw Jerry do that? More than a decade ago. Dallas is going to sit there at 26.

Fingers crossed!

 

[Portnoy1]

You let him go after 4 years. What's so bad about that? Other than the fact they could get a pretty damn good RB in a later round. Then do the same thing.

I’m trying to get an impact player that can last for 7-8 years at the first round position, think OL DL or QB. RB is a position that you draft in a later round.

 

[Flamma]

I’m trying to get an impact player that can last for 7-8 years at the first round position, think OL DL or QB. RB is a position that you draft in a later round.

Totally understandable. I'm just saying that any success is good. Even if you draft a RB and he kills it for 3-4 years, that's not a bad pick. Because players like Taco are possible.

The reason I wouldn't take a RB in the first round is because you can find good one's later on. We also want to consider out team's current position. If you want to win within the next two years, you might want to take someone that would have the biggest impact now.

 

[Portnoy1]

Totally understandable. I'm just saying that any success is good. Even if you draft a RB and he kills it for 3-4 years, that's not a bad pick. Because players like Taco are possible.

The reason I wouldn't take a RB in the first round is because you can find good one's later on. We also want to consider out team's current position. If you want to win within the next two years, you might want to take someone that would have the biggest impact now.

True. To be honest I wasn’t big on Taco, but I wanted him over Watt because I was scared about Watt getting injured. At the same time I really wanted Charles Harris who was an immediate bust. Funny thing is if we got TJ Watt I don’t know if he’d become the player he is today. He’d be blitzing every once an a while and spend the rest of his time in coverage under the previous regime. Kinda Like if Micah was drafted under the previous regime he’d just be a good LB that blitzes occasionally. To your previous point though, if the Cowboys have all the positions pretty much covered then it’s fine going full throttle drafting a RB.

 

[Flamma]

I know you didn’t ask this specific question, but there’s no shot in hell we take Bijan.

But aside from that, We’ve had multiple years with more than 1 1st round pick and never used both; consider 2021 when we had3 and still only used 1. I think Howie doesn’t love it when multiple big contracts come up at the same time, or he has to decide on multiple 5th year options at once, he much prefers to stagger them.

As for position: We haven’t drafted a 1st round RB in 35 years, and that won’t change this year. RB, TE, S positions simply arent valuable enough to spend 1st round picks on. Ask yourself this question: Jason Witten was by most people here a top 5 TE who ever lived. Would you trade his career for a top 5 WR who ever lived? Randy Moss? Would you trade him for a top 5 DE who ever lived, Bruce Smith? Would you trade him for a top 5 LT who ever lived, Anthony Munoz? Of course you would! Because no matter how much you love Witten and respect everything he’s given to the franchise, you also recognize that TE is simply not as impactful a position as pretty much any other position. The fact that teams take TE’s or RB’s in the first round every year despite comparable talent at way more valuable positions shocks me to no end.

Howie is very good at this game. But what's funny is that he's not doing anything that's mind blowing, it's basic common sense moves.

Most of us know the Eagles aren't taking a RB at 10. Not a chance. But I think he has his eye on Jalen Carter. Imagine him and Jordan Davis? I mean c'mon. You're probably right in what Howie will do. I just think he'll wait to see how far Carter falls.

 

[Flamma]

True. To be honest I wasn’t big on Taco, but I wanted him over Watt because I was scared about Watt getting injured. At the same time I really wanted Charles Harris who was an immediate bust. Funny thing is if we got TJ Watt I don’t know if he’d become the player he is today. He’d be blitzing every once an a while and spend the rest of his time in coverage under the previous regime. Kinda Like if Micah was drafted under the previous regime he’d just be a good LB that blitzes occasionally. To your previous point though, if the Cowboys have all the positions pretty much covered then it’s fine going full throttle drafting a RB.

That is my main point. Situations like this rarely happen. Are the Cowboys a team right now that are in a position to possibly draft a RB late in the first round? Unless it's Bijon, I pass. But if he's there at 26, I think I take him with our current situation.

In this draft I'm not that excited about who will be there at 26. But anything can happen. We never take a DT. I don't see us taking a CB or WR, so who's left?

 

[Captain-Crash]

we're going DT or OT in the first round unless the old dried-up ***** has a hardon for some guy.

 

[Croomraider]

He's ranked #2 prospect, but it's hard to imagine he's going to go in the top 10. RBs have a short lifespan. I wouldn't shy from one late in the 1st due to that, but gimme a guy that can play throughout a 2nd contract in the top 10.

I agree that RB's don't have the value as other positions. The reason why I think he goes earlier than expected is simply the guy has All Pro "Hands" as an RB. He will motion out to a wideout position often in the NFL and create one on one mismatches all over.