Parsons is an early odds favorite to win DPOY

[Rockport]

No. That is not what I am suggesting.

Parsons is who he is, he is going to get double digit sacks and be an NFL leader in pressures and tackles for a loss. He just has a three season trend of fading late in the season, his numbers support this. He needs to be effective in the big games late in the season,

There might be reasons for his poor playoff performance. Like no DT’s, no LB’s and below average safeties and missing their best CB. And also don’t forget and offense that also sputters in the playoffs because they can’t run the ball.

 

[Rockport]

"Pour some sugar on me." - Parsons in run defense.

Quinn never asked him to play run defense. Zimmer will.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Well, I think that would be more valuable. I'm not saying he should be the equivalent of a Larry Brown for the whole season and then be the recipient of great opportunity in the SB.

No disrespect to Larry Brown because he did make those plays when he had to. However, I also believe that big contracts should go to the great players that make big plays in big games.

Parsons could get DPOY and then make no impactful plays in a playoff game that needed one from him. He's had one sack in four playoff games. I wouldn't be willing to pay him unless he made big plays in the games that define this team's history.

When you look back into the Cowboys championship history, we will see that the big games brought out the best in the Cowboys legendary players like Bob Lilly, Chuck Howley, Roger Staubach, Randy White Harvey Martin, Michel Irvin, Emmitt Smith, Troy Aikman, Jay Novacek, Charles Haley, etc.

So what I am saying is he doesn't just need to produce numbers which is what DPOY seems to require. He needs more of those sacks and pressures and tackles for losses to be in the elimination games.

I'd love for him to make big plays in the postseason as well...but that's not how this works guys that sack/pressure the QB make the big bucks...it's really that simple. No one played great against Green Bay...but that does not mean Jerry won't raise ticket prices and players won't 1st, 2nd, or 3rd highest paid at their position

 

[Whyjerry]

Can he win that while only playing 12 games?

The Podcaster is 0-3 when trying to put together a full season.

 

[plasticman]

There might be reasons for his poor playoff performance. Like no DT’s, no LB’s and below average safeties and missing their best CB. And also don’t forget and offense that also sputters in the playoffs because they can’t run the ball.

They had similar issues throughout the season and Parsons was electric from September to November. Besides, this isn't a one-season issue, it is a three year trend.

I'm not trying to pick him apart, I'm just looking at his productivity from one part of the season to the other. In fact, I'll say it right now, it's not through any lack of effort or poor play on his part, I truly believe this is one of the unwanted side effects of Parsons playing DE almost exclusively. It's flat out fatigue.

Unfortunately, as a result, I don't think his history of productivity in the late months of the season merits a contract that makes him the highest paid non-QB.

Parsons averages almost a full sack a game from September to November. During the regular season in December and January, he averages a half a sack per game and in the playoffs he averages a quarter of a sack per game. That is his averages for the combined three seasons in the NFL

If Parsons could match all his early season averages during the late part for the season including pressure, forced fumbles, and tackles for losses, then the money would match his performance during the regular season and postseason. It would definitely impact the outcome of those important games up to and including a SB MVP performance. If the Cowboys can get to a Super Bowl within the next 2-3 seasons, Parsons would have to be mentioned as one of the favorites for MVP in that game

 

[jwitten82]

Quinn never asked him to play run defense. Zimmer will.

You say some dumb things. What makes you think Quinn never asked him to play run defense?

 

[Rockport]

They had similar issues throughout the season and Parsons was electric from September to November. Besides, this isn't a one-season issue, it is a three year trend.

I'm not trying to pick him apart, I'm just looking at his productivity from one part of the season to the other. In fact, I'll say it right now, it's not through any lack of effort or poor play on his part, I truly believe this is one of the unwanted side effects of Parsons playing DE almost exclusively. It's flat out fatigue.

Unfortunately, as a result, I don't think his history of productivity in the late months of the season merits a contract that makes him the highest paid non-QB.

Parsons averages almost a full sack a game from September to November. During the regular season in December and January, he averages a half a sack per game and in the playoffs he averages a quarter of a sack per game. That is his averages for the combined three seasons in the NFL

If Parsons could match all his early season averages during the late part for the season including pressure, forced fumbles, and tackles for losses, then the money would match his performance during the regular season and postseason. It would definitely impact the outcome of those important games up to and including a SB MVP performance. If the Cowboys can get to a Super Bowl within the next 2-3 seasons, Parsons would have to be mentioned as one of the favorites for MVP in that game

I 100% stand by my post. The defense was bullied all season by good teams. In the playoffs, they had no chance they were so weak. Every player knew it.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

If this happens, we could be looking at $35-40M to sign him......


https://www.si.com/betting/nfl-defe...-headline-favorites-to-win-award-01j01vh98htm

NFL Defensive Player of the Year Odds: Micah Parsons, Myles Garrett Headline Favorites to Win Award​

Reed Wallach | 4 Hours Ago​

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The last few years have had some epic races for Defensive Player of the Year, and we should expect no different in 2024 with a host of pass rushers given a good shot to win the award.
Myles Garrett took home Defensive Player of the Year honors in 2023, the leading man on the vaunted Browns defense, and he’s the second choice this season to repeat in 2024, behind last year's contender Micah Parsons of the Cowboys.
Those two are far from the only players at the top of the oddsboard. T.J. Watt, Nick Bosa, and Maxx Crosby are all at +1000 or short, making for five games at the top of the list with short odds.
Here’s the early odds for what’s expected to be a crowded race for DPOY this season.

2024 Defensive Player of the Year​

Odds via FanDuel Sportsbook

• Micah Parsons: +600
• Myles Garrett: +650
• T.J. Watt: +800

Yep, a lot of Homer Boy fans out there and Las Vegas knows it..................

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

If this happens, we could be looking at $35-40M to sign him......


https://www.si.com/betting/nfl-defe...-headline-favorites-to-win-award-01j01vh98htm

NFL Defensive Player of the Year Odds: Micah Parsons, Myles Garrett Headline Favorites to Win Award​

Reed Wallach | 4 Hours Ago​

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The last few years have had some epic races for Defensive Player of the Year, and we should expect no different in 2024 with a host of pass rushers given a good shot to win the award.
Myles Garrett took home Defensive Player of the Year honors in 2023, the leading man on the vaunted Browns defense, and he’s the second choice this season to repeat in 2024, behind last year's contender Micah Parsons of the Cowboys.
Those two are far from the only players at the top of the oddsboard. T.J. Watt, Nick Bosa, and Maxx Crosby are all at +1000 or short, making for five games at the top of the list with short odds.
Here’s the early odds for what’s expected to be a crowded race for DPOY this season.

2024 Defensive Player of the Year​

Odds via FanDuel Sportsbook

• Micah Parsons: +600
• Myles Garrett: +650
• T.J. Watt: +800

I guess that's based on his first 10-12 games, as he tends to fade in the lat 4,5 games of the season and disappears in the playoffs.

 

[starfan1]

best shape of his life? oh and can hit 200 in in major leagues!! My man Micah you go.

 

[Bullflop]

Micah's a candidate for DPOY and here we are, trying to figure out what to do with him?! He's quite vocal, that's for sure!

 

[JoeKing]

Why do you disagree with his list?

I thought he had it in order importance but he has since then explained it was not in any order. I have no problem with that.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Micah's a candidate for DPOY and here we are, trying to figure out what to do with him?! He's quite vocal, that's for sure!

Exactly......he has a mouth on him, no question but who cares? You have to be pretty damn good to challenge DPOY 2 straight years. That's all I care about........As Jimmy used to say, as long as they ain't breaking any laws off the field and showing up big-time on Sundays, I don't care about all that other stuff. To be honest, I am pretty sure teammates feel the same way. All they care about is you showing up on Sunday, doing your job.

 

[Proof]

Tank being the supporting cast actually strengthens the argument. You basically went "Parsons has a supporting cast. Look at the good run stuffer but pass rusher on the DLine and the top 15 corner. That surely is enough." You made my argument for me so you are right that there is no need to continue. It was fun engaging with someone with a low football IQ though and I did learn plenty from you in terms of how people with a low football IQ think.

i mean the defense has had 3 dpoy candidates. tank is a very very good football player, osa, armstrong, fowler provide for quality play on the dl. really it's our lack of dt and linebackers being injured that have bit us. but the D as a whole is compromised of some really good players. just not the best supporting cast in the league.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Curious if Zimmer can help him keep fresh for the end of the year.
If they can stop the run it will help.
However depth on the Dline and DE is thin.

Problem already is him doing so much through the season and tiring out towards the end after facing constant double/triple teams while being held and rarely if ever getting a holding call against him.

OO also wears down at the 3 tech towards the end of the year as he is the only real threat at 3 for now.

But again, until someone steps up at the 3 tech to help get more pressure, until Zimmer can get this run D on point and until someone else steps up to help at the DE spots besides Micah and Tank....He will continue to wear out towards the end of the year.