Parsons is more valuable to Cowboys than Dak

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I was literally talking to someone else about Dak breaking records in foxburo and he comes in like that? Lol. It’s the Cowboys who are 3-4 since then. Not Dak. It’s amazing he gets none of the praise for wins but all of the blames for losses haha

I see, so what records did Dak break in Foxboro seeing as how you now state it's a team game?
 

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Not really! I don't mind Zeke being paid because his salary is so low for the position that even if he doesn't produce it doesn't kill the team. Unlike the big fat question mark at the QB position. The only time Dak looks elite is against a bunch of weak teams. Jerry got a marketing product more than a real QB.

Disagree with the constant narrative of Dak only looking elite against weak teams, because there were times he put up good games and performances against above .500 teams and playoff contending teams. Like I mentioned in another thread, if Dak puts up a good performance against a top team, but the Cowboys lose that game. Then there are a bunch of takes about how his stats and performances don't matter, but only wins do. And he receives all of the blame for those losses, even when the defense allows a lot of points and yards to be put up.

Then if Dak throws for under 200 yards and doesn't have one of his best performances, but the Cowboys win that game. then some switch up the narrative to acting like QB stats should matter and that Dak shouldn't receive any credit for the win, if he doesn't put up 400 yards and multiple TDs. Some who have an agenda against Dak will switch up the narratives, just to do whatever they can to avoid giving him credit. Just like some completely disregard the good performances Dak puts up against above .500 teams, to sell the narrative that he only looks elite against weak teams.

Besides how many QBs consistently are always able to look elite and great against winning teams or playoff contending teams? There are only a handful and even those such as Russell Wilson are now struggling when they don't have as good team around them to help them get to that winning record over teams above .500. Matt Stafford has a horrible record against winning teams, but some blamed all of that on the Lions and insisted he still could be an elite QB, if given the chance to be on a better team. Yet he is still losing games against winning teams with the Rams.

There are plenty of Cowboys fans who have had a problem with Zeke's contract. So time will only tell with Parsons. The fans loved both Zeke and Lawrence when they first started to play well for the Cowboys, but then a few years later ended up complaining about both Zeke and DLAW's contract saying they are overpaid. Chance are that there will be some complaining about Parsons contract, if he starts to have a season or two where he drops off some and doesn't perform as highly as he is doing in his rookie season.
 

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Ohhh wait. Dalton gets the injured OL excuse but Dak doesn’t. Hilarious

If the OLine is either injured or plays badly in the run or passing game, hurting the offenses ability to consistently move the ball and score, then that gets used in the "Dak can't perform if he doesn't have everything perfect around him narrative." Or "Dak get do well under pressure and has to have a clean pocket to play well." One of the things they Anti-Dak crowd likes to pretend is that other QBs don't throw better in clean pockets or that they don't struggle more when they are getting hit/sacked/pressured a lot in a game, due to the offensive line getting dominated in the trenches.

Something else they do is try to use the "Cowboys the best OL in the NFL." As a way to discredit Dak. But, when another QB's Offensive lines give them great protection and a lot of time to throw, then that gets used to give that QB praise and accolades for his skills as a Quarter Back. How many times have we heard "If you give *insert QB* a lot of time to throw, then he'll pick apart your defense, because that's how great he is." But, then they use Dak having a good offensive line against him one of the many ways they attempt to discredit his skill and accomplishment as a QB.

And now the same fans who say there shouldn't be any excuses for Dak, make excuses for Dalton, as if Dak hasn't been dealing with an injured offensive line for most of his career with the Cowboys. When was the last time an offensive line for the Cowboys even made it through an entire season with all Original starters playing healthy and never missing a game? (Since 2016)
 

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He gets it when people are saying when Dak when down the offense looked bad. Also Dalton was new to the system unlike Dak.

Dalton being "new to the system." Didn't stop a bunch of Cowboys fans on this forum and on twitter from declaring how this was now going to be Dalton's team and how Dalton was going to take over the offense or that the offense was going to do better with him than they did with Dak. A lot of fans were saying that Dalton was going to take Dak's job and believed Dalton would be the QB of the Cowboys, while Dak walked. They said Dalton would be the starter, until the Cowboys drafted another QB.
 

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Disagree with the constant narrative of Dak only looking elite against weak teams, because there were times he put up good games and performances against above .500 teams and playoff contending teams. Like I mentioned in another thread, if Dak puts up a good performance against a top team, but the Cowboys lose that game. Then there are a bunch of takes about how his stats and performances don't matter, but only wins do. And he receives all of the blame for those losses, even when the defense allows a lot of points and yards to be put up.

Then if Dak throws for under 200 yards and doesn't have one of his best performances, but the Cowboys win that game. then some switch up the narrative to acting like QB stats should matter and that Dak shouldn't receive any credit for the win, if he doesn't put up 400 yards and multiple TDs. Some who have an agenda against Dak will switch up the narratives, just to do whatever they can to avoid giving him credit. Just like some completely disregard the good performances Dak puts up against above .500 teams, to sell the narrative that he only looks elite against weak teams.

Besides how many QBs consistently are always able to look elite and great against winning teams or playoff contending teams? There are only a handful and even those such as Russell Wilson are now struggling when they don't have as good team around them to help them get to that winning record over teams above .500. Matt Stafford has a horrible record against winning teams, but some blamed all of that on the Lions and insisted he still could be an elite QB, if given the chance to be on a better team. Yet he is still losing games against winning teams with the Rams.

There are plenty of Cowboys fans who have had a problem with Zeke's contract. So time will only tell with Parsons. The fans loved both Zeke and Lawrence when they first started to play well for the Cowboys, but then a few years later ended up complaining about both Zeke and DLAW's contract saying they are overpaid. Chance are that there will be some complaining about Parsons contract, if he starts to have a season or two where he drops off some and doesn't perform as highly as he is doing in his rookie season.
The problem I have with Daks stats are they don't take into a account how he may struggle in the first quarter or longer and then the defense might struggle to stop the run and with Dak going 3 and out the other team will have a 100 yds rushing by halftime because Of both the defense AND Dak not converting on 3rd down possessing the ball enough to give the defense a chance to catch their breath and adjust. And the real kick in the teeth are the idiots that say it wasn't Daks fault.
 

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If the OLine is either injured or plays badly in the run or passing game, hurting the offenses ability to consistently move the ball and score, then that gets used in the "Dak can't perform if he doesn't have everything perfect around him narrative." Or "Dak get do well under pressure and has to have a clean pocket to play well." One of the things they Anti-Dak crowd likes to pretend is that other QBs don't throw better in clean pockets or that they don't struggle more when they are getting hit/sacked/pressured a lot in a game, due to the offensive line getting dominated in the trenches.

Something else they do is try to use the "Cowboys the best OL in the NFL." As a way to discredit Dak. But, when another QB's Offensive lines give them great protection and a lot of time to throw, then that gets used to give that QB praise and accolades for his skills as a Quarter Back. How many times have we heard "If you give *insert QB* a lot of time to throw, then he'll pick apart your defense, because that's how great he is." But, then they use Dak having a good offensive line against him one of the many ways they attempt to discredit his skill and accomplishment as a QB.

And now the same fans who say there shouldn't be any excuses for Dak, make excuses for Dalton, as if Dak hasn't been dealing with an injured offensive line for most of his career with the Cowboys. When was the last time an offensive line for the Cowboys even made it through an entire season with all Original starters playing healthy and never missing a game? (Since 2016)


"When was the last time an offensive line for the Cowboys even made it through an entire season with all Original starters playing healthy and never missing a game?"

So did Mahomes have a great, never missed a game OL last season or the year before? How about Brady? How about Rodgers? How about Wilson? How about Allen? How about Jackson? Somehow they all elevated their teams in spite of not having great, never missing a game OL but Dak can't do it? I thought he was an elite Top 5 QB????
 

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The problem I have with Daks stats are they don't take into a account how he may struggle in the first quarter or longer and then the defense might struggle to stop the run and with Dak going 3 and out the other team will have a 100 yds rushing by halftime because Of both the defense AND Dak not converting on 3rd down possessing the ball enough to give the defense a chance to catch their breath and adjust. And the real kick in the teeth are the idiots that say it wasn't Daks fault.
Do you know Tom Brady only scored once in the first quarter in all his playoff games. Statistics LMAO you’re useless until the end of your career when you’re trying to look back at it. Prescott is an absolute winner. You don’t like him fine I’ll enjoy the games while you suffer
 

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You’re a literally having a five way conversation. And crying that we’re all wrong. LMAO

It's called multi-tasking and unlike you and others I express my opinion without claiming you are wrong and your opinions should be banned. You see, I believe in free speech and the ability to debate opposing views, unlike those on here that need to move to China and N. Korea.
 

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The problem I have with Daks stats are they don't take into a account how he may struggle in the first quarter or longer and then the defense might struggle to stop the run and with Dak going 3 and out the other team will have a 100 yds rushing by halftime because Of both the defense AND Dak not converting on 3rd down possessing the ball enough to give the defense a chance to catch their breath and adjust. And the real kick in the teeth are the idiots that say it wasn't Daks fault.
Other teams will have 100 yards by halftime rushing. Don’t you think that’s on the defense and not Prescott. You’re all over the place
 

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It's called multi-tasking and unlike you and others I express my opinion without claiming you are wrong and your opinions should be banned. You see, I believe in free speech and the ability to debate opposing views, unlike those on here that need to move to China and N. Korea.
It’s called being tunnel vision. That’s why we have those Issues, because they can’t listen to reality Literally, the most unpatriotic thing you can say is go live somewhere else. And you call yourself a veteran. Please
 

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Do you know Tom Brady only scored once in the first quarter in all his playoff games. Statistics LMAO you’re useless until the end of your career when you’re trying to look back at it. Prescott is an absolute winner. You don’t like him fine I’ll enjoy the games while you suffer

Opening round of playoffs in 2020 vs WFT:


FG 11:49
Ryan Succop 29 Yd Field Goal
9 plays, 70 yards, 3:11

TD 2:51
Antonio Brown 36 Yd pass from Tom Brady (Ryan Succop PAT blocked)
6 plays, 58 yards, 2:06


2 Tom Brady led scoring drives in the 1st quarter.....well that took hardly any work at all to disprove your false statement.
 
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