Particles found to break the speed of light.

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tupperware;4132426 said:
I remember when I was getting a hair cut in the barber shop one time and on both sides of the wall, in front of you and directly behind you were gigantic mirrors. When mirrors are facing each other they reflect the other limitlessly and instantaneously. This is how I imagine the universe working. The "outer rim" if you want to call it that, is always expanding at warp speeds. The expansion being made up of the same thing it is expanding from. I mean I certainly don't see the universe like some World of Warcraft land where you can bump in to an invisible boundary.

I believe the universe is curled up. Sort of like sailing on the ocean. If you keep going in one direction, you will end up back at the same place. The three (or four) spatial dimensions (ie 3D) are mostly uncurled or I would say inflated and the seven others are still tightly curled up. (to small for us to perceive)

How weird would it be if even one of the other dimensions uncurled like the three spatial dimensions?
 

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Here is me at UT Explore day.... We did a Mad Hatter tea party and incorporated time and the UT tower, etc. into the play for the kids. You can't see the tie and the pendulum is hidden, but I'm supposed to be a clock. The videos from the play are hilarious, but I can't find them. LOL

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And we smashed the competitions' play by a long shot in terms of how many people came to ours... was almost 1,000.
 

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It seems someone found out a way for it to "only appear" to travel faster than time due to the gravitational effect on time. The funny thing is, this should have been obvious thing to check early on. I mean we already know that a clock in space and an identical clock on the ground run as a different rate of time due to gravity among other things.

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Faster-than-light neutrinos face time trial

Did gravity mess with the clocks that measured particles breaking cosmic speed limit?

Eugenie Samuel Reich

Less than two weeks after the revelation that ghostly particles called neutrinos had been spotted travelling faster than the speed of light, physicists are claiming to have found flaws in the analysis that would stop the claim in its tracks.

The extraordinary result came from the OPERA experiment (Oscillation Project with Emulsion-tRacking Apparatus), situated 1,400 metres underground in the Gran Sasso National Laboratory in Italy (see 'Particles break light-speed limit'). There, scientists timed muon neutrinos arriving from CERN, Europe's particle physics facility near Geneva, Switzerland, some 731 kilometres away.

They were astonished to find the neutrinos arriving 60 nanoseconds earlier than a light beam travelling through a vacuum would have done — breaking what physicists had thought was an immutable cosmic speed limit1.

Since the OPERA group's 22 September announcement, more than 30 papers attempting to explain the result using various exotic theoretical models have been posted to the physics preprint server at ArXiv.org. But one paper2, posted on 28 September by theorist Carlo Contaldi of Imperial College London, bears the distinction of being the first to challenge the experimental calculations.

The OPERA team timed the neutrinos using clocks at each location that were synchronized using GPS (Global Positioning System) signals from a single satellite. Contaldi's paper says the group's calculations do not take into account one aspect of Albert Einstein's general theory of relativity: that slight differences in the force of gravity at the two sites would cause the clocks to tick at different rates.

Because the CERN site lies closer to the centre of the Earth than Gran Sasso, and consequently feels a smaller gravitational pull, a clock at the beginning of the neutrinos' journey would actually run at a slightly slower rate to the clock at the end. "It would reduce the significance of the result," Contaldi says.

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...............yeah. But can they tackle? :D
 

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CowboyMcCoy;4166939 said:
I was and still am skeptical. This would just be freaky.

Yep, I'm not buying this. I suspect there was a measurement error.
 

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Chocolate Lab;4169035 said:
Yep, I'm not buying this. I suspect there was a measurement error.

Maybe they forgot to factor in daylight savings time :D :D

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Reality;4169127 said:
Maybe they forgot to factor in daylight savings time :D :D

#reality

I know a guy who is a physicist close to a guy I'd say is an expert on this subject. When that guy asked him he said he would be 10k of his own money that it wasn't reproducible. It wasn't, apparently. So while I may have thought myself that it was a possibility. He most certainly didn't and so I wouldn't argue physics with either one of those guys.
 
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