Passes over the middle!

[Jarv]

Had a few people over yesterday, so maybe I missed a couple of plays. I have to ask, why we don't use the middle of the field in the passing attack more? Everything is outside of the hash marks.

The TD passes to Wit and Rod were over the middle.

We should have scored 30 on these guys by halftime, I know we won and all, just frustrated with the design and play calling in this offense.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I know we won and all, just frustrated with the design and play calling in this offense.

Shocking.

 

[Jarv]

Shocking.

Hope I didn't startle you.

 

[TheCount]

Had a few people over yesterday, so maybe I missed a couple of plays. I have to ask, why we don't use the middle of the field in the passing attack more? Everything is outside of the hash marks.

The TD passes to Wit and Rod were over the middle.

We should have scored 30 on these guys by halftime, I know we won and all, just frustrated with the design and play calling in this offense.

Witten and Beasley almost exclusively run short routes, and our system is designed to give them the space to work underneath by sending the outside receivers deeper.

Problem is teams have started taking away anything inside for Beasley.

 

[DandyDon52]

JG has always used the sidelines. He doesn't like the middle.

 

[Proximo]

We should have scored 30 on these guys by halftime

LOL

C'mon man.

 

[Radiashun]

JG has always used the sidelines. He doesn't like the middle.

Except when it comes to the standings.

 

[Kevinicus]

I have been asking this for nearly a decade. I know the answer, but it doesn't help.

 

[khiladi]

JG has always used the sidelines. He doesn't like the middle.

Exactly, this is the way the offense is designed. It’s meant to attack deep and outside the hashes.

The problem is, it’s not Dak’s best throws. So we’ve ‘tweaked it’ per say.

 

[BobSacamano]

Witten and Beasley almost exclusively run short routes, and our system is designed to give them the space to work underneath by sending the outside receivers deeper.

Problem is teams have started taking away anything inside for Beasley.

Ball control and shortening the field at its finest.

Guess Dak isn't at the level to do much beyond that.

 

[CATCH17]

Exactly, this is the way the offense is designed. It’s meant to attack deep and outside the hashes.

The problem is, it’s not Dak’s best throws. So we’ve ‘tweaked it’ per say.

MAkes you wonder why they didn't go for Wentz even more considering that's what he is great at.

His sideline throws jumped off the screen in college.

 

[Sydla]

Credit where credit it due. In that Skins game, the O coaches got righteously skewered for bad play calls when the Skins were basically giving the middle of the field.

This game, the coaches attacked it, including that big play to Smith in the 4th.

 

[khiladi]

MAkes you wonder why they didn't go for Wentz even more considering that's what he is great at.

His sideline throws jumped off the screen in college.

Because they were planning on Romo to have a couple more years with Zeke and a SB run. That’s the reason...

Last year threw the whole plan off..

 

[HungryLion]

Because they were planning on Romo to have a couple more years with Zeke and a SB run with the two. That’s the reason...

Last year threw the whole plan off..

I’m still happy with the Zeke pick.

This offense can still be great with Dak and Zeke.

Essoecially if they tailored it more to Dak’s skill set.

 

[dfense]

Had a few people over yesterday, so maybe I missed a couple of plays. I have to ask, why we don't use the middle of the field in the passing attack more? Everything is outside of the hash marks.

The TD passes to Wit and Rod were over the middle.

We should have scored 30 on these guys by halftime, I know we won and all, just frustrated with the design and play calling in this offense.

It's all Eli did yesterday.

 

[BulletBob]

I don't understand why we don't throw more quick slants over the middle (especially to Dez, who seems like the prototype receiver to thrive in that type of pattern). From what I've read, it's one of the hardest patterns to defend, and against the blitz, it can be lethal to the defense if a hot receiver is hit on an audible.

Maybe we are running these routes, and the receivers aren't getting open, or maybe the defenses are stacking the middle to prevent the run from beating them (even with Zeke out)?

I don't know.

I'm also puzzled why (with our athletic offensive line and eventually with Zeke), we can't be the most dominant screen passing team in the league. We haven't had a CONSISTENTLY successful screen pass game since maybe the Dorsett years. We see it work every once in a while on a spectacular play (Zeke against the Steelers last year).

Why can't we seem to do more damage with these two basic passing patterns?

 

[Zman5]

It's the product of Romo friendly offense. Romo was best at intermediate/deep side line passes and he mostly got in trouble throwing to the middle.

The problem is, it's the opposite of Dak's skill set. That's why we need to start moving away from Romo friendly offense and move toward Dak friendly offense.

 

[khiladi]

It's the product of Romo friendly offense. Romo was best at intermediate/deep side line passes and he mostly got in trouble throwing to the middle.

The problem is, it's the opposite of Dak's skill set. That's why we need to start moving away from Romo friendly offense and move toward Dak friendly offense.

Romo was never in trouble throwing over the middle. That is the offense by design, to attack the outside the hashes. Dallas actually drafted Escobar for a pass-catching TE for Romo, meaning they wanted a threat in the middle. That Denver game in 2013, Romo was throwing all over the middle going toe-to-toe with Manning in arguably the latter’s greatest offensive year.

It was with Callahan that they began making changes, but Garrett kept interfering. When Jerry spoke about it, he said Garrett was essentially the OC and kept interfering, but they didn’t want to change the offense so they brought in Linehan. Garrett interfered basically because Callahan was changing the offense.

Before the 2013 look at what we were dealing with, a disaster in the making:

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/201...w-offensive-scheme-the-erhardt-perkins-system

If the offense was completely changed, then Garrett would have had nothing left to even be ‘valuable’..

This offense really only became ‘Romo friendly’ to how one wants to define it when Jason Garrett was effectively banished from play calling and Romo got to work with Linehan.

But even then, it still didn’t maximize his talents. An offense like Payton’s where the seams are always attacked would have. There is a reason Payton wanted him in NO..

Dallas last year was basically opportunistic with the Dak situation. And if they change the offense now, it just shows how lacking in direction this organization is...

You could have had the window with Romo and when he retired changed direction offensively without any harm to Dak’s development and younger talent..

 

[Zman5]

Romo was never in trouble throwing over the middle. That is the offense by design, to attack the outside the hashes. Dallas actually drafted Escobar for a pass-catching TE for Romo, meaning they wanted a threat in the middle. That Denver game in 2013, Romo was throwing all over the middle going toe-to-toe with Manning in arguably the latter’s greatest offensive year.

It was with Callahan that they began making changes, but Garrett kept interfering. When Jerry spoke about it, he said Garrett was essentially the OC and kept interfering, but they didn’t want to change the offense so they brought in Linehan. Garrett interfered basically because Callahan was changing the offense.

Before the 2013 look at what we were dealing with, a disaster in the making:

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/201...w-offensive-scheme-the-erhardt-perkins-system

If the offense was completely changed, then Garrett would have had nothing left to even be ‘valuable’..

This offense really only became ‘Romo friendly’ to how one wants to define it when Jason Garrett was effectively banished from play calling and Romo got to work with Linehan.

But even then, it still didn’t maximize his talents. An offense like Payton’s where the seams are always attacked would have. There is a reason Payton wanted him in NO..

Dallas last year was basically opportunistic with the Dak situation. And if they change the offense now, it just shows how lacking in direction this organization is...

You could have had the window with Romo and when he retired changed direction offensively without any harm to Dak’s development and younger talent..

JG's system is based on our version of Air Coryal offense from the 90's. Troy and Irvin lived off of the slants and Harpers big plays came off of deep post. The 90's offense is design to attack both the middle and the sidelines.

I remember there were talks on how they were trying to minimize Romo's interceptions by changing the passing offense. In his early days, Romo's INTs came when he was pressured up the middle and he would just chuck it to the middle. I think they were trying to minimize this by having him throw more sideline passes and less to the middle.

 

[Sepia]

During his presser, Dak seemed kinda excited about the passes in the middle.