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I haven't seen Tyler play center yet.But he is a center
I haven't seen Tyler play center yet.But he is a center
Yeah and you put Bass at LGBut he is a center
21 years of age too. As long as his medicals check out, I would take him over 24 year old Barton.this is who i want at 24. Time to get back to having a bad *** center again
Good point on the age difference. Still can expect a 10-year career from Barton since 34 is not that old for a lineman21 years of age too. As long as his medicals check out, I would take him over 24 year old Barton.
JPJ is the better center but Barton is the more versatile lineman.Good point on the age difference. Still can expect a 10-year career from Barton since 34 is not that old for a lineman
I meant BartonNot sure about Guyton, but I'd hope for the best. I think all of the OTs that will be available to us will have question marks like Tyler did when he came out. Hopefully, if we take one it will turn out as well as that pick has so far. If we take an OL in the first, I prefer one of the two centers because I think there is less of a chance of a miss with them. Maybe they won't be the All-Pros it seems they can be, but they should be surefire NFL starting centers.
Yeah, I just want the guy who is the best at what he does. I know there is value in versatility, but I feel JPJ is that rare center who doesn't need much help because of his power. I think some speed guys may get him every now and then, but he's not going to give up much ground in pass blocking and is going to be a body mover in run blocking. Having a center who you can trust one-on-one or who can destroy defenders on double-teams, allowing the guard to peel quickly, is appealing to me. I think Barton and Frazier will be better pulling into space and moving laterally while JPJ will be a bull moving straight ahead.JPJ is the better center but Barton is the more versatile lineman.
In this day and age a center might be the most valuable position on the offensive line. Our line fell apart with the loss of Frederick.Yeah, I just want the guy who is the best at what he does. I know there is value in versatility, but I feel JPJ is that rare center who doesn't need much help because of his power. I think some speed guys may get him every now and then, but he's not going to give up much ground in pass blocking and is going to be a body mover in run blocking. Having a center who you can trust one-on-one or who can destroy defenders on double-teams, allowing the guard to peel quickly, is appealing to me. I think Barton and Frazier will be better pulling into space and moving laterally while JPJ will be a bull moving straight ahead.
Definitely has not been the same. I think our running game up the middle has definitely suffered without him.In this day and age a center might be the most valuable position on the offensive line. Our line fell apart with the loss of Frederick.
Let me add that JPJ's mobility isn't bad. He's just not as fluid as the other two moving laterally.I'd equally take Barton or JPJ. If both were available, I'm not sure which I would go with, probably JPJ because he brings rare power to the position. He's closer to Frederick IMO than other centers available, very potent moving forward in the box and hard to budge, while Barton and Frazier have better mobility.
As a center, I agree.I have JPJ ahead of Barton, but they are very closely rated. Both really help our anemic run game out immensely and have pro bowl upside.
If this is the pick, stay right there and draft him. Who needs a trade down for another JAG bum Defensive lineman. Solidify the center position.If this is the pick, trade down please and get him. Even if it's just for a 4th.
What was dropping JPJ was the medical concerns; if there are no big ones then he will not make it to usI saw a clip of Broadus today saying that a GM friend of his told him that JPJ is clean and some of the medical reporting on him is incorrect
Im good with Guyton or Newton at 24
Good with Barton, JPJ at 24
Would prefer trade down to 28-30 and take JPJ or Frazier
It’s gonna be jerzan NewtonI’ve thought all along that he is the guy.
You about covered all possibilities. Nice.I saw a clip of Broadus today saying that a GM friend of his told him that JPJ is clean and some of the medical reporting on him is incorrect
Im good with Guyton or Newton at 24
Good with Barton, JPJ at 24
Would prefer trade down to 28-30 and take JPJ or Frazier
Not sure he is even the best centerWord is Tampa Bay, Green Bay and Detroit are interested. It sucks because we will lose him
Question becomes can we trade back and still get him. Most likely not if GB and Detroit both have interest.Said the two sides hit if ofon his 30 visit. JPJ draft stock has cooled and is now expected to come off the board between 20 and 40. Pauline said the teams with most interest besides Dallas is GB and Detroit. Miami not that interested.
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