Pauline: Saturday's Standouts Include Goff, Fuller

[RS12]

1. QB Jared Goff, Cal - Goff made a statement at the Combine today as to why I think he’s the top-rated quarterback in the draft. The junior signal-caller stood out in every way. His timing and anticipation were on the money despite the fact Goff was throwing to receivers he was unfamiliar with. Goff showed great accuracy and pass placement, gently placing throws into receivers' hands. It was a big-time performance by Goff, who was under a lot of pressure.

2. QB Carson Wentz, North Dakota State - Wentz had a stronger arm than Goff though he wasn’t as accurate. Still, he had a very impressive Combine workout. He showed the ability to make all the throws and, like Goff, his timing was incredibly impressive. Receivers were almost never waiting for passes to arrive and Wentz had the ball to them as they exited breaks. He showed great arm strength and the ability to power the ball into targets.

3. WR Will Fuller, Notre Dame - Fuller started the day with a 40-yard dash time in the low 4.3s, the fastest in the receiver group. He then caught the ball very well, making several difficult receptions in contorted positions, which quelled the concerns over the inconsistency of his hands.

4. WR Josh Doctson, TCU - Doctson ran 4.5 seconds in the 40 which was expected then later stood out in position drills. He ran quick, crisp routes, showed great balance as well as consistent hands. His 41-inch vertical jump was the best from the receiver class while his 10-11 broad jump ranked second. Doctson showed the skills required to line up as a No. 2 receiver in the NFL.

5. WR Tyler Boyd, Pittsburgh - Boyd ran just under 4.6 seconds in the 40, but put on a clinic catching the ball. He was smooth, balanced and played with great efficiency. Boyd easily hauled in several over-the-shoulder receptions down the field and showed soft, supple hands.

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/n...f-Fuller/d8911886-beb1-4a73-9055-f0e27f7e704b

 

[RS12]

11. WR Devon Cajuste, Stanford - Cajuste measured 6-4 and 234 pounds, then timed 4.62 in the 40-yard dash. During position drills, he ran solid routes and caught the ball very well. Teams are talking about moving Cajuste to tight end, but at the Combine he looked like a natural wideout.

12. WR Keyarris Garrett, Tulsa - Garrett timed the 40 in the low 4.5s after weighing in at 220 pounds. During position drills, he looked natural, fluid and had no wasted motion. Garrett effortlessly caught the deep pass and was dependable in the short field

These guys are intriguing players. Cajuste could grow into a TE role.

 

[RS12]

I'd be happy with either left over QB.

 

[reddyuta]

seriously ,how can you guys think Wentz outperformed Goff today? If you are doing NFL projections then you have a QB who will seamlessly transition into a NFL pro system despite playing shot gun most of his college career,i cant say the same about Lynch and Wentz.

 

[JBS]

Am I the only one that hates when scouts / gms / coaches etc compare players and have them rated so close that they don't care which one they get?

It really bothers me..very seldomly do players end up being equal..be clear on your rankings and go get the guy you believe is the better player

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

seriously ,how can you guys think Wentz outperformed Goff today? If you are doing NFL projections then you have a QB who will seamlessly transition into a NFL pro system despite playing shot gun most of his college career,i cant say the same about Lynch and Wentz.

Wentz and Paxton may have a higher ceiling but clearly the Pro ready QB is admittedly Jared (Alex Smith) Goff. The one QB that could have brought the Cowboys out of the depths of 2015 would have been Goff, and though I thought Goff was over rated before the Combine, he's the QB that starts and wins in the NFL THIS YEAR if Romo goes down. Don't let anyone tell you Jared Goff doesn't have a pro-arm.

There is no Cam, Luck, or even Mariota or Winston type Framchise QBs in the 2016 NFL Draft... there is even a good chance that one or more of the 2nd and 3rd tier prospects could end up the creme of this crop in the end, over the top three contenders.

 

[waving monkey]

I'd take either Goff or Wentz and must admit Goff is turning my head.
I say again I think this crop of QB's are undervalued but I'm willing to be corrected
There are some wonks out there that agree

 

[reddyuta]

Wentz and Paxton may have a higher ceiling but clearly the Pro ready QB is admittedly Jared (Alex Smith) Goff. The one QB that could have brought the Cowboys out of the depths of 2015 would have been Goff, and though I thought Goff was over rated before the Combine, he's the QB that starts and wins in the NFL THIS YEAR if Romo goes down. Don't let anyone tell you Jared Goff doesn't have a pro-arm.

There is no Cam, Luck, or even Mariota or Winston type Framchise QBs in the 2016 NFL Draft... there is even a good chance that one or more of the 2nd and 3rd tier prospects could end up the creme of this crop in the end, over the top three contenders.

a lot and I mean LOT of people(even on this board) thought CAm,Winston and Mariotta would not be successfull in the nfl.heck many people here still discount Cam even after he won the MVP.The only way you know they can play is drafting them,you can only make projections and hope for the best.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

a lot and I mean LOT of people(even on this board) thought CAm,Winston and Mariotta would not be successfull in the nfl.heck many people here still discount Cam even after he won the MVP.The only way you know they can play is drafting them,you can only make projections and hope for the best.

Yesir..but Cam Newton, Jameis Winston, Marcus Moriota and Andrew Luck were all rated far better than this years QB prospects. Aaron Rogers graded better than any of these young QBs coming out and he wasn't drafted until 24th overall, but we have to take one of them with the 4th Overall.

Not buying what the QBs are selling this year....not at #4.

 

[conner01]

a lot and I mean LOT of people(even on this board) thought CAm,Winston and Mariotta would not be successfull in the nfl.heck many people here still discount Cam even after he won the MVP.The only way you know they can play is drafting them,you can only make projections and hope for the best.

I didn't think cam would be the QB he is and I was wrong
I like Winston and Marietta both but thought Mariota would be better. Time will tell about that one
I like the upside of Wentz more than Goff but it's not that I don't like Goff and I like lynch later and I'm a little intrigued with havkenberg even later in the draft
Don't like cook but I'm the first to admit I'm no talent evaluater
But I think getting a QB that can be ready in a couple years is very important
As I said I prefer Wentz but if we can get a QB who at least has a solid chance of developing I'm gonna be happy
What I don't want is ignoring the position or a token pick later just to say we got one like we did with the last QB we got

 

[btcutter]

Yesir..but Cam Newton, Jameis Winston, Marcus Moriota and Andrew Luck were all rated far better than this years QB prospects. Aaron Rogers graded better than any of these young QBs coming out and he wasn't drafted until 24th overall, but we have to take one of them with the 4th Overall.

Not buying what the QBs are selling this year....not at #4.

Disagree about Cam and Rogers. Cam had an awful showing at the combines and his college tape was nothing to write home either. Rogers dropped for a reason. Easy to retrospectively say who would be successful.

I agree until you pick them and develop them, no one knows......well, I knew Blain Gabbert was going to fail...

 

[Oh_Canada]

Yesir..but Cam Newton, Jameis Winston, Marcus Moriota and Andrew Luck were all rated far better than this years QB prospects. Aaron Rogers graded better than any of these young QBs coming out and he wasn't drafted until 24th overall, but we have to take one of them with the 4th Overall.

Not buying what the QBs are selling this year....not at #4.

Why exactly is Mariota a better prospect than Goff or Wentz? I don't see it sorry. Both those guys can read defenses better, and certainly have better pocket awareness than MM ever did in college. The only thing Mariota has on them is speed.

 

[KingintheNorth]

1. QB Jared Goff, Cal
2. QB Carson Wentz, North Dakota State

yep, seems about right.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Cam Newton went #1 Overall and Mariota was better at everything.

 

[visionary]

Why exactly is Mariota a better prospect than Goff or Wentz? I don't see it sorry. Both those guys can read defenses better, and certainly have better pocket awareness than MM ever did in college. The only thing Mariota has on them is speed.

This
Every single year there are people telling us how there are no guarantees and there are no franchise QBs and that the draft does not have impact players ......

And every year those people are wrong

 

[StarHead69]

i am starting to believe that Goff and Wentz will be gone. That probably means we are looking at Ramsey/Jack/Bosa. The Chargers will probably trade down and get a nice ransom.

 

[RS12]

This
Every single year there are people telling us how there are no guarantees and there are no franchise QBs and that the draft does not have impact players ......

And every year those people are wrong

Even the 2009 draft one of the worst ever, produced Matthews and Raji for GB.

 

[RS12]

INDIANAPOLIS -- In much the same way that North Dakota State's Carson Wentz was clearly head-and-shoulders above the other quarterbacks at the Senior Bowl, California junior Jared Goff outclassed the competition during the first throwing session of the NFL combine, dazzling while fellow high profile passers like Michigan State's Connor Cook and Penn State's Christian Hackenberg were much more inconsistent.

Scouts anticipated that Goff would impress with his overall accuracy. After all, he'd completed 62.26 percent of his passes over his career and Saturday's workout was against no defenders.

But for a quarterback who rarely was asked to drop back from center in college, Goff was remarkably smooth whether asked to take three-, five- or seven-step drops Saturday. This was an area in which Cook and Hackenberg -- due to their experience in pro-style offenses in college -- had been expected to be much further along than Goff. They performed well in this regard but not any better than the record-breaking Goff, who showed considerably better anticipation and accuracy.

Scouts aren't necessarily counting completions in a combine throwing session because quarterbacks and receivers have little to no experience with each other but Goff's accuracy stood out nonetheless.

Goff was the only one of the nine passers throwing Saturday morning to deliver passes before his receivers made their breaks and showed the ability to respond to coaching, as well, pushing passes closer to the sideline at the request of Denver Broncos quarterback coach Greg Knapp, who led the drill.

Perhaps most importantly, the ball came out of Goff's hand with impressive velocity, easing concerns that perhaps the spread offense he'd starred in under Sonny Dykes at California had masked a below-average arm.

Whether it was the 12-yard out, quick curls or slants, deep balls down the sideline or the post-corners that ended the throwing session, Goff's effortless passing contrasted with the rest of a position group that otherwise struggled with consistency.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...combine-jared-goff-shines-in-throwing-session

 

[CATCH17]

a lot and I mean LOT of people(even on this board) thought CAm,Winston and Mariotta would not be successfull in the nfl.heck many people here still discount Cam even after he won the MVP.The only way you know they can play is drafting them,you can only make projections and hope for the best.

I liked Cam and Marriotta.. Didn't like Winston and still don't. He'll implode at some point.

 

[starfrombirth]

seriously ,how can you guys think Wentz outperformed Goff today? If you are doing NFL projections then you have a QB who will seamlessly transition into a NFL pro system despite playing shot gun most of his college career,i cant say the same about Lynch and Wentz.

Seriously, how can you think Goff was the best?? Every announcer, scout, analyst, and fan without an agenda saw that Wentz was by far the best qb today and Lynch made an argument that he might be second best. The best thing that was said about him was that one GM liked his mind but still had questions about his arm strength. He has a below average arm but above average intelligence.