People don't learn from history

[Alexander]

Even more shocking? Fans who think their youtube scouting could do a better job picking guys in the 100-150 range than guys whose livelhoods depends on it.

You just insulted every armchair scout on this site.

You owe Fuzzy and xwalker an apology.

 

[VACowboy]

The headlines to this thread should be "Do the Cowboys learn from Success?"

When you lose your runningback that got you to a 12-4 season and not replace it with anyone in the draft than your gonna have serious issues.

McFadden, Randle and Dunbar is not going to force 9 people into the box like Murray. Will be seeing a lot of teams playing the pass instead and not respecting our run.

Randle, Williams and McFadden aren't going to replace Murray, but they are talented players who can do things Murray can't. And if they have success running the ball, teams will pay attention. I believe that Garrett and Linehan will remain committed to the run. I believe in the Dallas OL. I believe that the team will have a successful running game, maybe better in ways than it was last year.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

If so, why on earth are we even discussing Byron Jones to FS?

Because Wilcox is a SS........come on

 

[Toruk_Makto]

You just insulted every armchair scout on this site.

You owe Fuzzy and xwalker an apology.

The difference is those guy state who they like. They don't turn around and state emphatically that our team doesn't know what they are doing because the team took someone other than "their" guy.

You on the otherhand cry and complain and talk about how we are worse this year than last without providing any evidence as to why you believe as much. Definition of a loudmouth and blowhard.

 

[Alexander]

Randle, Williams and McFadden aren't going to replace Murray, but they are talented players who can do things Murray can't. And if they have success running the ball, teams will pay attention. I believe that Garrett and Linehan will remain committed to the run. I believe in the Dallas OL. I believe that the team will have a successful running game, maybe better in ways than it was last year.

I believe in the OL. They are mostly all good, young and strong.

What I do not believe in are the backs on this roster.

We have a career failure who disappointed a franchise, a complete screw up and a draft bust who is trying very hard to salvage his career after sitting out a whole year just because he could not compete.

 

[Alexander]

The difference is those guy state who they like. They don't turn around and state emphatically that our team doesn't know what they are doing because the team took someone other than "their" guy.

You on the otherhand cry and complain and talk about how we are worse this year than last without providing any evidence as to why you believe as much. Definition of a loudmouth and blowhard.

You need to pay more attention. I made it very clear who I like. I liked Jarrett and Ajayi. Very clearly.

Other players as well.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

You need to pay more attention. I made it very clear who I like. I liked Jarrett and Ajayi. Very clearly.

Other players as well.

So because we didn't get those guys we are worse than last year? That is what you haven't made very clear.

 

[Alexander]

So because we didn't get those guys we are worse than last year? That is what you haven't made very clear.

I thinkI I have made my stance very clear.

Please go back and show me where you are confused.

I will try to speak slowly for you, and if necessary, employ the use of finger paint.

 

[TwoDeep3]

The management had several decisions to make at the end of last year.

1. Keep Murray or allow him to walk.
2. Figure a way to get AD. - - this is what I believable they wanted which precipitated number one.
3. Draft Murray's replacement.

Jerry Jones is quoted as saying great things about what we have here. Several back-ups, a guy who couldn't break onto the active roster, and a guy who failed at his previous stop.

So you have to asked the tough questions.

Did they misjudge Murray's resolve since he didn't clean out his locker and was goiun g to game with the QB and Head coach?

Did they misjudge the climate which would bring AD here?

Did they misjudge the draft and the ability to get a competent RB?

Do they over value what they have in their stable as far as RB goes?

Asking these questions in light of mistakes which caused this team to fall from grace two decades ago is not being disloyal or a malcontent.

It's just dealing with what is, viewed through the eyes of what has been for so long, save for last season.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Were you calling Murray an All-Pro running back this time last year?

And I really do hope teams only defend our run with their front 7. That'll be fun.

So are you saying that your comfortable with McFadden, Randle and Dunbar? If they defend our run with 7 and are successful at it the last laugh will be on us.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Randle, Williams and McFadden aren't going to replace Murray, but they are talented players who can do things Murray can't. And if they have success running the ball, teams will pay attention. I believe that Garrett and Linehan will remain committed to the run. I believe in the Dallas OL. I believe that the team will have a successful running game, maybe better in ways than it was last year.

I hope so. Going into the season with McFadden, Randle and Dunbar doesn't drive fear into any defense right now. We'll see after 3-4 from now if the run is still as productive as it was last year even without Murray. I have my doubts but I would love to eat crow if I'm wrong.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You just insulted every armchair scout on this site.

You owe Fuzzy and xwalker an apology.

I haven't contradicted anything they have said to this point and adjust my thinking to try and reconcile as opposed to trying to force my worldview into the situation.

Nice to see we're still weighing heavily on your mind to take shots though.

 

[Alexander]

I never contradicted anything they have said and adjust my thinking to fit them as opposed to trying to force my worldview into the situation. I cannot speak for X.

Nice to see we're still weighing heavily on your mind to take shots though.

Wait, who started replying to who's posts?

Fuzzy, I like you, I really do but now you are becoming a pathetic bore.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Wait, who started replying to who's posts?

Fuzzy, I like you, I really do but now you are becoming a pathetic bore.

What does that have to do with us thinking we know better than Garrett or other coaches?

What's boring is you dissembling. Is that word 'trying to talk smart' for you?

I responded to you. I don't bring you up with other people and talk trash like you are doing here. Try comparing apples to apples next time, chachi.

 

[Alexander]

What does that have to do with us thinking we know better than Garrett or other coaches?

What's boring is you dissembling. Is that word 'trying to talk smart' for you?

I responded to you. I don't bring you up with other people and talk trash like you are doing here. Try comparing apples to apples next time, chachi.

I am done with this. See you down the road when you can lead me into another rambling argument.

Happy trails.

Keep on using them thar big words. It works.

Sometimes.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

This draft was about the defense. Given how much we ran the ball last year, I don't think we take the RB position lightly. We're just not going to spend the money that the Eagles spent on Murray, especially as he gets closer to 30 years old and particularly after how many carries he had last season.

Most of the people bagging us for not taking a RB are going to bag us no matter what. They were the same people that hated the Murray pick. The same that hated Murray being the starter. The same that hated us cutting Williams last season and putting him on the P-S while Murray became the #1 back. And the same people that wanted Murray cut every time he fumbled last season. Oh, and the same exact people that pointed out that Murray wasn't all that great because Randle was averaging 6.7 yards per carry last season. Now that Murray is gone, Jerry's decision to not re-sign him...they act like Murray was the savior of this team. Something tells me if we did re-sign Murray, they would pan that as well and say 'hey, Randle had 6.7 ypc last season, so anybody could run behind this line' or 'I don't want a constant fumbler as our running back!'

We had to find a cornerback early on in the draft. Carr is way overpriced. Claiborne may not even make the roster due to his injury history and general suckiness. Scandrick is disputing his contract. Sterling Moore is in Tampa. We could very well have major issues at corner next season even with the Byron Jones pick. Without the pick, we are in major trouble. And are we going to trade up so we can take Gurley or Gordon? I hope not.

We needed a DE pretty badly. Lawrence is an unknown commodity. Mincey is a decent starting DE. Hardy is going to be out at least 4 games. We don't want another season of Kyle Wilber at DE. Spencer and Selvie are gone. It would be awfully difficult to pass up on any top-5 talent at the 60th pick, especially a guy who fits a great need and our scheme. Remember, Mincey is also 31 years old and Hardy only signed a 1-year deal, so what happens in 2016? Tell me that passing up on Gregory for a RB is the right move and I'll tell you that you need your head examined.

We lost Parnell, so we didn't have a swing tackle backing up anybody. Also, Free is 31 years old and had ankle problems last year. Tell me that taking Chaz Green over a 3rd round RB who may not even be good enough to beat out Williams, McFadden, Randle and Dunbar is a better pick than Green who can fill a need right away and possibly be a starter if Free gets hurt and can also become a starter in 2016.

Sean Lee may or may not be made out of paper mache. Rolando McClain may or may not be a nutcase and is working on a 1-year deal (also has a mysterious house fire and couldn't stay healthy. Please tell me how we didn't need an extra LB.

I think this draft went really well. We were able to get BPA's and at positions of need. And we got a consenus top-5 talent at #60 (who also filled a major need). It's now up to the coaching staff to develop these guys.





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[Floatyworm]

Hitchens saved the 2014 season!

He started 11 games and played at all 3 LB spots. He started games over Bruce Carter. Without Hitchens they would have been playing Cam Lawrence and would likely have missed the playoffs.

People moaned and groaned about the Hitchens pick in 2014.

Now the Cowboys draft some guys higher than the draft media had them ranked and the same people are throwing a fit about it.

The naysayers were wrong last year and they didn't learn from their mistake(s) and are now repeating the same rhetoric this year.

"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it."
-Edmund Burke

Matt Johnson says "Hi"

 

[TheCount]

One thing I still don't understand is why this team hates DT's so much, I don't get it.

 

[skinsscalper]

The way I see it, unless Jones and Gregory are monsters, we are a worse team than 2014 and we wasted the remainder of the draft on special teams players and cross-your-fingers players you hope show something now that they did not do as a collegiate.

Are you kidding me dude? Seriously? With Hardy and Gregory on board and Jones, at the very least, replacing Sterling Moore and this is a worse team than last year? Really? I swear, the Trail of Tears Gang does nothing but whine for the sake of whining. Cry away.

 

[skinsscalper]

Perpetually whining in post after post after post = crying.

TD, you and I have been been doing it a long time we know this.

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