per Dungy... Romo missed Woodson?

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kramskoi;3081912 said:
...after listening to Dungy on FNIA about the Woodson sack/fumble i went back and looked at the play...the same type of play that cost the Cowboys versus Denver...at the snap Crayton almost immediately turns back toward Romo and is looking for the ball...he must be the hot route on this play because Miles and Williams are vertical when Crayton turns back toward Romo...in Dungy's opinion Romo should've seen this pre-snap...



I am a harsh critic of Romo. But i think on this one give the kid a break.

In the last 4 games you could see that Romo tried to pay alot of attention in pointing out the blitzer and whom he wants to get picked up by the OLine and his Backs. And it worked really well for us.

Now yesterday that Blitz was his responsibility too. he didn't saw it. But come on guys he is only human. And it's not like it's is own responsibility. Flo messed up also and in the end it was a good defense call.

Those things happen once in a while. And as long as it's only once in a while it doesn't really matter a lot. Just look at the Scandrick Blitz yesterday against Rogers. Don't you think Rogers should have noticed it too.

It'S not only bad play by one player. There are 11 people involved and even 11 on defense also.
 

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TwentyOne;3082325 said:
I am a harsh critic of Romo. But i think on this one give the kid a break.

In the last 4 games you could see that Romo tried to pay alot of attention in pointing out the blitzer and whom he wants to get picked up by the OLine and his Backs. And it worked really well for us.

Now yesterday that Blitz was his responsibility too. he didn't saw it. But come on guys he is only human. And it's not like it's is own responsibility. Flo messed up also and in the end it was a good defense call.

Those things happen once in a while. And as long as it's only once in a while it doesn't really matter a lot. Just look at the Scandrick Blitz yesterday against Rogers. Don't you think Rogers should have noticed it too.

It'S not only bad play by one player. There are 11 people involved and even 11 on defense also.

AGree 100%
 

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Wrangler87;3082103 said:
The quarterback can't do everything. For goodness sake, he already has to tell half of the recivers where to line up before every play. Should he be able to take for granted the fact that the O-line can figure out when to block down and when not to.

Fact is, our team just isn't very smart, overall.

And therein, lies the problem! Not an overall smart team.
 

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No matter whose at fault it's certainly something they need to look long and hard at and get it fixed cause this isn't the first time a DB has come clean and been able to hit Romo.
 

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utrunner07;3082114 said:
I don't really care if Romo missed him or saw him. My entire problem with that play is why we chose to pass the ball on 1st and goal @ the 1. An Extremely stupid call. It is the root of the problem with this offensive unit. Garrett has no idea how to coach Romo or how to call plays fir him to be successful through rough patches. When Romo is on that is a Touchdown or a do over, on off days, like Romo was clearly having yesterday, the pick is actually going to happen. Garrett will never recognize this and needs to go.

the thread isnt about that play
 

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utrunner07;3082114 said:
I don't really care if Romo missed him or saw him. My entire problem with that play is why we chose to pass the ball on 1st and goal @ the 1. An Extremely stupid call. It is the root of the problem with this offensive unit. Garrett has no idea how to coach Romo or how to call plays fir him to be successful through rough patches. When Romo is on that is a Touchdown or a do over, on off days, like Romo was clearly having yesterday, the pick is actually going to happen. Garrett will never recognize this and needs to go.

You throw there because you have 8 minutes to make three scores and only have one time out.
 

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Derinyar;3082664 said:
You throw there because you have 8 minutes to make three scores and only have one time out.

But that does fit with the bash Garrett at all costs crowd.
 

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utrunner07;3082114 said:
I don't really care if Romo missed him or saw him. My entire problem with that play is why we chose to pass the ball on 1st and goal @ the 1. An Extremely stupid call. It is the root of the problem with this offensive unit. Garrett has no idea how to coach Romo or how to call plays fir him to be successful through rough patches. When Romo is on that is a Touchdown or a do over, on off days, like Romo was clearly having yesterday, the pick is actually going to happen. Garrett will never recognize this and needs to go.

I totally agree...he does not put the offense in the best position for success a lot of times.
 

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Derinyar;3082664 said:
You throw there because you have 8 minutes to make three scores and only have one time out.

You run because you have three stud running backs and one yard to go.
 

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ryanbabs;3082836 said:
You run because you have three stud running backs and one yard to go.

So what happens if you don't get it on 1st down and you just shot 40+ seconds of your 8 minutes of clock? Run it again because you have three stud running backs? And when that fails run it again because you have three stud running backs?

The problem is we had a short amount of time and a lot of work to do. We couldn't afford to burn 30+ seconds on any single play. With the way the game was going you can't assume that we would have scored on the first attempt at running from the 1.
 

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Hook'em#11;3082067 said:
Then Dungy should of actually watched this game. Cause Romo was anything but "relaxed" in this one.

I think I have made my point pretty clear on what I think about Romo. But, Romo and his leadership, emotion is different this year, big time. He is getting this look in his eye, that I like and think all players should have. He had it again yesterday. Bradie and Ware had the same look as well. Now, if they could just stop all this high fiving and congrats to the other team BS after the game. I would be thrilled. It's not really the atta boys for the team that just beat ya, it's the smiles and such. But, that is just me. I know, I know, good sportsmanship and what not.

Dungy is just Dungy, a coach who rode a future HOF's back for a Super Bowl ring. Big deal. He is doing his job, he is blind as hell, but is doing his job.

Time to regroup and win the next two.
This is something I have noticed as well. I saw in the press conference after the game he looked pissed off and said that the team didn't play the way they were capable of playing. Also after the INT to Woodson you could see he was pissed and yelled the f word or s word I can't remember. I don't remember Romo reacting like that too many times before this season. He usually would just walk slowly back to the sidelines with his head down and sit on the bench by himself with his head down. He definitely has a different demeanor and attitude this year.
 

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This is probably sacrilege to some, but I don't like Tony Dungy very much. I always thought he was able to coach great talent and get very mediocre results.
 

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ddh33;3083203 said:
This is probably sacrilege to some, but I don't like Tony Dungy very much. I always thought he was able to coach great talent and get very mediocre results.
It's not sacrilege.

I like Tony Dungy, but he's not infallible either and can be wrong.

In this case, I think he is.
 

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mldardy;3083104 said:
This is something I have noticed as well. I saw in the press conference after the game he looked pissed off and said that the team didn't play the way they were capable of playing. Also after the INT to Woodson you could see he was pissed and yelled the f word or s word I can't remember. I don't remember Romo reacting like that too many times before this season. He usually would just walk slowly back to the sidelines with his head down and sit on the bench by himself with his head down. He definitely has a different demeanor and attitude this year.

I've noticed that, too.
 

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The next time any of you guys see an OT block outside to take on a blitzing CB, let me know.

Flo did what he's supposed to do in protection.

Whenever a CB blitzes, it's the QB's responsibility and maybe he gets help from a RB if there is one....that's the whole concept...Romo sees the CB blitz and hits the guy in the open for a nice gain while a safety slides over for the tackle after a first down.

You don't ask your OT to block a CB.
 

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TwentyOne;3082325 said:
I am a harsh critic of Romo. But i think on this one give the kid a break.

In the last 4 games you could see that Romo tried to pay alot of attention in pointing out the blitzer and whom he wants to get picked up by the OLine and his Backs. And it worked really well for us.

Now yesterday that Blitz was his responsibility too. he didn't saw it. But come on guys he is only human. And it's not like it's is own responsibility. Flo messed up also and in the end it was a good defense call.

Those things happen once in a while. And as long as it's only once in a while it doesn't really matter a lot. Just look at the Scandrick Blitz yesterday against Rogers. Don't you think Rogers should have noticed it too.

It'S not only bad play by one player. There are 11 people involved and even 11 on defense also.


...i'll put this one on Adams, but Crayton was waiting for that ball no doubt about it and he had a five yard bubble in which to catch it...
 

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Hook'em#11;3082067 said:
Then Dungy should of actually watched this game. Cause Romo was anything but "relaxed" in this one.

I think I have made my point pretty clear on what I think about Romo. But, Romo and his leadership, emotion is different this year, big time. He is getting this look in his eye, that I like and think all players should have. He had it again yesterday. Bradie and Ware had the same look as well. Now, if they could just stop all this high fiving and congrats to the other team BS after the game. I would be thrilled. It's not really the atta boys for the team that just beat ya, it's the smiles and such. But, that is just me. I know, I know, good sportsmanship and what not.

Dungy is just Dungy, a coach who rode a future HOF's back for a Super Bowl ring. Big deal. He is doing his job, he is blind as hell, but is doing his job.

Time to regroup and win the next two.


I don't think he's blind. He just is used to a quarterback like Peyton Manning.

And I trust Dungy's football knowledge more than the posters here, that's for sure.

Having said that, I agree it was Flozell's responsiblity. But Woodson didn't come off the edge, which would have been more on Romo's blind side. He came through the line. Romo has to see that in his peripheral vision.

Oh, and I agree with you that Romo's demeanor is different. I think this team still makes the playoff and at least has one playoff victory, if not more.

Romo seems determined not to make a mistake. And despite Sunday, I like the way he handled the game. He had some high throws, true. But he needs help. And Roy Williams nor the line game him much help Sunday.

We'll bounce back, though.
 

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wayne motley;3083326 said:
The next time any of you guys see an OT block outside to take on a blitzing CB, let me know.

Flo did what he's supposed to do in protection.

Whenever a CB blitzes, it's the QB's responsibility and maybe he gets help from a RB if there is one....that's the whole concept...Romo sees the CB blitz and hits the guy in the open for a nice gain while a safety slides over for the tackle after a first down.

You don't ask your OT to block a CB.
Trent Dilfer is backing what Aikman said. He said that Romo had every right to think that Woodson was accounted for and that it was a basic blocking scheme for the tackle and guard.

The evidence is in, Flo screwed up.
 

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Derinyar;3082850 said:
So what happens if you don't get it on 1st down and you just shot 40+ seconds of your 8 minutes of clock? Run it again because you have three stud running backs? And when that fails run it again because you have three stud running backs?

The problem is we had a short amount of time and a lot of work to do. We couldn't afford to burn 30+ seconds on any single play. With the way the game was going you can't assume that we would have scored on the first attempt at running from the 1.

...heck with the clock...you have to give your team a chance...anybody feeling presumptious enough on offense to think they could easily do in 8 minutes what they could'nt do in the previous 52 just underscores how clueless the offense is right now...having to make sure Romo is protected means fewer receiving options...with Witten having an X marked on his back well...you witnessed the results...they should've run the ball...too high a percentage to try and pass the ball, especially with Harris and Woodson in the secondary...jeez, you think they would've learned the lesson from the Denver debacle...it required too much precision on day in which the Cowboys possessed none...run the friggin ball...all this finesse crap...dumb play!
 

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tyke1doe;3083351 said:
I don't think he's blind. He just is used to a quarterback like Peyton Manning.

And I trust Dungy's football knowledge more than the posters here, that's for sure.

Having said that, I agree it was Flozell's responsiblity. But Woodson didn't come off the edge, which would have been more on Romo's blind side. He came through the line. Romo has to see that in his peripheral vision.

Oh, and I agree with you that Romo's demeanor is different. I think this team still makes the playoff and at least has one playoff victory, if not more.

Romo seems determined not to make a mistake. And despite Sunday, I like the way he handled the game. He had some high throws, true. But he needs help. And Roy Williams nor the line game him much help Sunday.

We'll bounce back, though.
...bottom line is that Crayton saw it...
 
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