PETA is at it again...

[Hoofbite]

Take a look at the documentary "the Cove', might have you rethinking the whole Sea World experience.

A synopsis would be appreciated.

 

[Steve_Deadload]

A synopsis would be appreciated.

Crazy people in Japan trap the Dolphins in a cove. They pick out the bottlenose dolphins to sell to Sea World and other places. Then they herd the rest into another cove and slaughter them all for meat (which doesn't make them much money and is terrible to eat, because it has ridiculously high levels of mercury in it.)

I don't remember exactly but if Sea World wasn't giving them such excellent financial backing it would be tough for them to keep on. In addition, dolphins hate captivity, it basically kills them.

 

[silverbear]

I guess it proves the theory that some people have too much time on their hands.

Don't they call folks like that "moderators"??

 

[dreghorn2]

A synopsis would be appreciated.

Sorry i stepped away-- essentially its a film that shows exactly how dolphins are procured for 'Sea World' type event centers.

A documentary team manages to get video of an annual dolphin slaughter that is a byproduct of gathering dolphins for world wide distribution.

Very disturbing and very sad, it's available on Netflix.

Anyone that has ever watched it, that i have spoken with, insist they will never go to dolphin show again.

 

[SPHawk]

I hope someday the good people of Tucson get water so they aren't forced into senseless Lobster massacres/feasts by those jerks at PETA.

Red Dragons

 

[Concord]

Take a look at the documentary "the Cove', might have you rethinking the whole Sea World experience.

Exactly...People should say hey kids we're going to Sea World tomorrow...but tonight we're going to watch "The Cove"...to see the wonderful way in which Sea World got some of those Dolphins.

They would never look at Sea World the same way again.

 

[zrinkill]

Sea World spokesperson Fred Jacobs has responded by saying that, "We think we're being unfairly criticized for something we're opposed to."He adds that, "SeaWorld opposes the dolphin hunts documented in The Cove. We do not purchase any animals from these hunts. More than 80 percent of the marine mammals in our care were born in our parks. We haven't collected a dolphin from the wild in decades."

The scene in The Cove that displays a map consisting of arrows emanating from Taiji and pointing to countries with dolphinariums has been said to be misleading since the majority of those countries do not currently have dolphins of Japanese origin. In the United States it is currently illegal to import dolphins obtained from a drive, including the drive hunt at Taiji, as it is considered an inhumane method. Since 1993 there have been no permits issued to facilities in the United States to import dolphins acquired through drive hunt methods. Marilee Menard, the executive director of the Alliance of Marine Mammal Parks and Aquariums, has also stated that she believes that the filmmakers are "misrepresenting that the majority of zoos and aquariums with dolphins around the world are taking these animals."

 

[Concord]

Sea World spokesperson Fred Jacobs has responded by saying that, "We think we're being unfairly criticized for something we're opposed to."He adds that, "SeaWorld opposes the dolphin hunts documented in The Cove. We do not purchase any animals from these hunts. More than 80 percent of the marine mammals in our care were born in our parks. We haven't collected a dolphin from the wild in decades."

Maybe not now...but they did at one point.

Fred Jacobs, vice president for communications for SeaWorld, says that in the 1980s SeaWorld "saved" some animals from Japanese drive fisheries. Today, he says, "we do not purchase animals from Taiji or any other Japanese drive fishery." SeaWorld now acquires its dolphins from captive-dolphin births and from rescuing distressed animals.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Maybe not now...but they did at one point.

Fred Jacobs, vice president for communications for SeaWorld, says that in the 1980s SeaWorld "saved" some animals from Japanese drive fisheries. Today, he says, "we do not purchase animals from Taiji or any other Japanese drive fishery." SeaWorld now acquires its dolphins from captive-dolphin births and from rescuing distressed animals.

They don't anymore. Isn't that what we want?

While PETA has good intentions, they cross boundaries they shouldn't and become PITA instead of PETA.

 

[Concord]

They don't anymore. Isn't that what we want?

While PETA has good intentions, they cross boundaries they shouldn't and become PITA instead of PETA.

Yes that's good...but let's not act like they haven't done it before.

And it's currently illegial...so they can't.

To me that's like saying hey someone killed someone in the 80's but it's 2011 and they haven't done it since so lets forget it.

No.

I will admit though that PETA does go over boards sometimes.

 

[zrinkill]

Maybe not now...but they did at one point.

Fred Jacobs, vice president for communications for SeaWorld, says that in the 1980s SeaWorld "saved" some animals from Japanese drive fisheries. Today, he says, "we do not purchase animals from Taiji or any other Japanese drive fishery." SeaWorld now acquires its dolphins from captive-dolphin births and from rescuing distressed animals.

So 30+ years ago they bought some animals that were about to be eaten from this group and there is something wrong with that? Isn't that the same thing Peta does?

 

[Hostile]

Yes that's good...but let's not act like they haven't done it before.

And it's currently illegial...so they can't.

To me that's like saying hey someone killed someone in the 80's but it's 2011 and they haven't done it since so lets forget it.

No.

I will admit though that PETA does go over boards sometimes.

Ah so because they did it in the past they are still guilty of it. Good to know.

One of my classmates got drunk as a skunk our graduation night. Tried to screw a car belonging to a girl he liked because she wasn't there for him to try and screw her. He had never drank before in his life, didn't remember a couple of us taking him home or even the night, and woke up on his front porch instead of in his bed. Last I heard at our 20 year reunion he has never drank again since that night.

Good to know he's still an alcoholic pervert with a fetish for Toyota cars.

 

[Concord]

Ah so because they did it in the past they are still guilty of it. Good to know.

I didn't say they were still guilty of it...but they were guilty of this practice in the past.

I admitted that they don't do it now...in fact it's illegal...but that we shouldn't FORGET that they have in fact done this in the past.

Whether you chose to forgive and forget is up to you.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I didn't say they were still guilty of it...but they were guilty of this practice in the past.

I admitted that they don't do it now...in fact it's illegal...but that we shouldn't FORGET that they have in fact done this in the past.

Whether you chose to forgive and forget is up to you.

What exactly do you want done to them? You are pushing an agenda here (and you have that right), but give us some clue of what you expect to happen.

Should be jail them? Should we release the dolphin that they got? (if it is not dead already)

 

[joseephuss]

When they get a dolphin, how do they know it wasn't caught by a drive? The person giving/selling them the dolphin may tell them a false story of how the procured the dolphin. "This little dolphin was found on the footsteps of the local fire department and we are trying really hard to find it a good home."

 

[Concord]

So 30+ years ago they bought some animals that were about to be eaten from this group and there is something wrong with that? Isn't that the same thing Peta does?

In the United States it is currently illegal to import dolphins obtained from a drive, including the drive hunt at Taiji, as it is considered an inhumane method.

You posted the reason yourself...they should have never been involved with these people in the first place...they payed them money...which only helped and encouraged them to continue this practice.

 

[Concord]

What exactly do you want done to them? You are pushing an agenda here (and you have that right), but give us some clue of what you expect to happen.

Should be jail them? Should we release the dolphin that they got? (if it is not dead already)

My only agenda is to protect animals.

I just want people to realize that when they go to places like Sea World they may be supporting pratices like Dolphine driving without knowing it.

I want no more wild Dolphins or Orca's or any other marine animal brought in...if they can stay open by using the babies that are born at their facilities...OK...if not then oh well.

 

[zrinkill]

they should have never been involved with these people in the first place...they payed them money...which only helped and encouraged them to continue this practice.

Same with these guys right?

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221517

 

[Concord]

Same with these guys right?

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221517

Wrong.

This isn't the same thing. That animal-rights protection group did what they had to do to save save those dogs and they saved them ALL.


"After a standoff and negotiation, the group agreed to pay the dog trader 83,000 yuan ($13,000) to secure the caged dog's freedom, said Qiming president Qiao Wei.

"It's a compromise we took in an effort to let the dogs free—they are visibly suffering for being packed in small cages with very limited space. We spent hours negotiating with the trader," Qiao told CNN in a phone interview. "Finally with the help of local government he was willing to hand over the dogs in exchange for 83,000 yuan—60,000 for personal compensation, another 20,000 for cages that we lack."


Sea World didn't pay money to save those dolphins...they payed money to get dolphins to perform for them so they could make money off of them...not to save them.

If it would have been the same then Sea World would have payed for ALL the dolphins and saved them all...not just the ones that they could make money off of...they could have payed for them all...taken the bottlenose and set the rest free...but they didn't.

Frankly I can't believe that a place like Sea World would know that the ones that they don't buy are going to be slaughtered and wouldn't do something about it.

Pathetic.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Sea World didn't pay money to save those dolphins...they payed money to get dolphins to perform for them so they could make money off of them...not set them free.

If it would have been the same then Sea World would have payed for ALL the dolphins and saved them all...not just the ones that they could make money off of...they could have payed for them all...taken the bottlenose and set the rest free...but they didn't.

They did in fact pay and did in fact save them from dying. Remember, the rest were killed.