Pete Prisco's Top 100 players

TheCount;4564367 said:
Not if they have the 6th best QB already on their roster. ;)

Top 100 lists are fun, people need to stop taking them so damn seriously.

How's that?

Well, what Romo deserves is a rating comparable to where his level of play is at.

#78 isn't there.

So what he thinks Romo deserves is pretty misguided and his commentary is more about all the meanies who pick on Romo than it is anything else.

Obviously his opinion is just as guided by the commentary as it is anything else.

I guess I should have said, he only put him that high out of pity. Otherwise he likely would have just easily dismissed him.
 
1. No way Tyron Smith should be that high or even on the list...he played well as a rookie RT...he hasn't played a down at LT...no way I put him that high...not yet.

2. No way Ware should be rated #3...ridiculous. Great player, but even IF you believe he's the best pass rusher in the entire NFL (debatable), imagine an open draft to restructure the entire NFL and you have pick #3. No way anyone takes Ware over all the franchise QBs, over the top CBs.

And if you run a 4-3, he's probably not even the top DE.

Love the guy, but #3? No way.
 
Chuck 54;4564620 said:
1. No way Tyron Smith should be that high or even on the list...he played well as a rookie RT...he hasn't played a down at LT...no way I put him that high...not yet.

2. No way Ware should be rated #3...ridiculous. Great player, but even IF you believe he's the best pass rusher in the entire NFL (debatable), imagine an open draft to restructure the entire NFL and you have pick #3. No way anyone takes Ware over all the franchise QBs, over the top CBs.

And if you run a 4-3, he's probably not even the top DE.

Love the guy, but #3? No way.

It is the 100 best players and not the 100 most valuable.

So nothing wrong with being #3. I would agree in an open draft that Ware would not go ahead of a franchise QB but I don't agree at all that he would not go above top CBs in the game.
 
Chuck 54;4564620 said:
2. No way Ware should be rated #3...ridiculous. Great player, but even IF you believe he's the best pass rusher in the entire NFL (debatable), imagine an open draft to restructure the entire NFL and you have pick #3. No way anyone takes Ware over all the franchise QBs, over the top CBs.

Yes QB's would be chosen first because they are the most important player on the team, but by position Ware deserves to be #3. There are alot of great pass rushers in the game and to be the best means alot.
 
Chuck 54;4564620 said:
2. No way Ware should be rated #3...ridiculous. Great player, but even IF you believe he's the best pass rusher in the entire NFL (debatable),

Really? Really? Dude.
 
Chuck 54;4564620 said:
1. No way Tyron Smith should be that high or even on the list...he played well as a rookie RT...he hasn't played a down at LT...no way I put him that high...not yet.

2. No way Ware should be rated #3...ridiculous. Great player, but even IF you believe he's the best pass rusher in the entire NFL (debatable), imagine an open draft to restructure the entire NFL and you have pick #3. No way anyone takes Ware over all the franchise QBs, over the top CBs.

And if you run a 4-3, he's probably not even the top DE.

Love the guy, but #3? No way.


This.
 
For 1 game that's I'd being played today I would guess 26-29 of NFL coaches would take Romo over Ryan.

"Matty Ice" the nickname has to much holdover from his college days and hasnt really been earned on the biggest stages yet. That and the fact that he came in and took over for Vick after that franchise was doomed, people tend to just go with what they hear or see in highlights.

Between Romo and Rivers it would probably be as close to 50-50 or 60-40 as you can get. There's a reason people around the nfl respect Rivers the way they do. He makes everyone on that team better. He has the killer instinct you want in a Football player. He's the guy you love if he's on your team and love to hate if he's not. Very similar to romo.

We as fans are seeing possibly the greatest era of QB's ever. Maybe not better than the 80's yet but pretty close.
 
Chuck 54;4564620 said:
1. No way Tyron Smith should be that high or even on the list...he played well as a rookie RT...he hasn't played a down at LT...no way I put him that high...not yet.

2. No way Ware should be rated #3...ridiculous. Great player, but even IF you believe he's the best pass rusher in the entire NFL (debatable), imagine an open draft to restructure the entire NFL and you have pick #3. No way anyone takes Ware over all the franchise QBs, over the top CBs.

And if you run a 4-3, he's probably not even the top DE.

Love the guy, but #3? No way.

To be fair this isn't a draft. Drafts dont just determine rank of players by how good they are. It has a lot to do with the value of a position. Ware is the best at what he does. Would teams value that over a franchise QB? No because winning is determined more on your QB Play than any other position.

That being said Ware is just as good a player as Rogers or Brady. His position on the field might not be as valued as QB but that's not what these list are for.
 
Tyron Smith and Romo should have positions swapped... even then Tyron would be too high... I don't see Dware at #3 but he for sure is top 5.

No Sean Lee yet Tyron is in top 50.. lol
 
Oh look, this stupidity again. Go ahead and drop Romo. I long for the Quincy Carter type of days.
 
pjtoadie;4564009 said:
Romo's the 10th rated QB behind:

Rodgers - Okay (Top 3)
Brady - Okay (Top 3)
Brees - Okay (Top 3)
Peyton Manning-Based on injury/last year not sure where he should go. If healthy then yes Top 3 or 4.
Big Ben - Okay. Does what Tony does, which is makes more out of less support (O-Line, Running game, Receivers). Difference between what he has done and Tony is that he has had great Defense and at different times good/great O-Line, Running game, Receivers which led to Superbowls. If Tony had been the Pittsburgh quarterback in their Superbowl years could they still have won? I think yes.
Stafford - Better measurables than Tony, but would perform worse with our past Offensive lines and supporting cast than Tony has. With a good or better O-Line and supporting cast I think he is better than Tony, but with a mediocre or worse supporting cast I think Tony would do better.
Ryan - No
Rivers - No
Eli Manning - Prior to 2 years ago I would have said no (including his first Superbowl year), but he has really improved and should be above Ben in my opinion. I see him as a more experienced Stafford. If Tony had been the Giant QB could they have won their superbowls? I think they still could have won and I believe Eli would do worse with a lesser supporting cast than Tony has. With a good/great supporting cast he may have become (last two years) a better pure QB than Tony but it is close. As I tell my Giant friends, Eli has really been great the last two years. He is playing at a Tony Romo level.

My comments/perspective above.
 
pjtoadie;4564009 said:
Romo's the 10th rated QB behind:

Rodgers
Brady
Brees
Peyton Manning
Big Ben
Stafford
Ryan
Rivers
Eli Manning


Ware is 3rd behind Rodgers and Brady

I actually think his QB ranking is pretty much on money...but would bump Eli up little higher. When you factor in ability to lead combined with stats - Romo is where he belongs. Which I still think is pretty good for guy who went undrafted.
 
Nav22;4564182 said:
:laugh2:

I'm only going to focus on Matt Ryan being ahead of Tony Romo for a second.

There is literally no justification for anyone to put Matt Ryan ahead of Tony Romo. None. Zero.

Romo's stats and playoff record are better than Ryan's. Ryan is 0-3 in the playoffs and just came off a playoff shutout to the Giants (Atlanta's D scored the only 2 points).

It's simply a difference in perception for the two players. Ryan isn't perceived to be a choker because his failures are ones that nobody really cares about... because nobody really cares about the Falcons outside of Georgia. Romo, meanwhile, plays for the Cowboys.

I can't believe people have such a hard time understanding this and being able to put their perceptions into proper perspective, at least when creating a list of top players. Shame on you, Prisco.


Same here. I can make a valid arguement for the other 9 including Stafford based on a combo of potential and proven ability. Not saying I agree with that, or Rivers, Ben and Eli.

But Ryan is waaaaay out of line. The kid is good, but has in no way proven to be on Romo's level.
 
Wood;4565377 said:
I actually think his QB ranking is pretty much on money...but would bump Eli up little higher. When you factor in ability to lead combined with stats - Romo is where he belongs. Which I still think is pretty good for guy who went undrafted.

How the heck can you agree with Ryan being ranked higher than Romo?!? Ryan has less stats, and hasn't even won a playoff game! Romo gets raked over the coals for only having one playoff win to go along with his stats, but you are ok with ranking Ryan above Romo with not having a playoff win AND lower stats? So he is just ranked higher because he was a 1st round pick instead of an undrafted free agent like Romo? Can we let the "undrafted" thing finally die? There are a ton more 1st round quarterbacks that haven't done squat. I guess we should rank them all higher than Romo. :banghead:
 

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