Pete Prisco's Top 50 NFL Players

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Top 50 players: In with the new, out with some of the old

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June 14, 2007
By Pete Prisco
CBS SportsLine.com Senior Writer
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]The NFL can sometimes be cruel to veteran players, even former stars. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]We see it all the time. These players are revered for years, only to see their play fall off a little, and then have fans cry loudly for them to be replaced. [/FONT]
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Nnamdi Asomugha is a name worth knowing after the Oakland corner picked off eight passes in 2006. (US Presswire) When I put together the CBS SportsLine.com Top 50 rankings of the NFL players each summer, I'm guilty of the same thing.
If you're aging and sliding, or injured and non-productive, or even loafing too much (that's you, Randy Moss), there's a good chance you're being dropped down or even out of my list.
I'm always looking for fresh faces.
This year, there are 19 players on my Top 50 who weren't on the list last year. Some are veteran players who had good seasons, but most are young, rising players who belong, a couple who were even left off the Pro Bowl teams last December because they didn't have name recognition.
That matters little on this list.
That's why young players like Jets safety Kerry Rhodes and Raiders cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha are on the list, while guys like Moss and Brett Favre are not.
The weird thing about the big change on the list is that the top hasn't changed. The top six players from my 2006 list remain the same. That means Colts quarterback Peyton Manning at the top followed closely by Patriots quarterback Tom Brady.
This is the fourth time Manning has topped the list in the seven years it's been done. In years past, I've been seared for putting him in that spot.
Can anybody argue now?
Brady is just behind him, close I might add, and Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer is just off the pace.
The highest-rated defensive player is Broncos corner Champ Bailey in the fourth spot. He got my vote as the NFL Defensive Player of the Year last season and is the best cover player since Deion Sanders.
The only two newcomers to the Top 10 are Chargers linebacker Shawne Merriman and Panthers defensive end Julius Peppers. They replace Moss and Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis.
Moss falls out after a horrible season, even though when he's focused he's still a top 50 talent. But you at least have to try to get on the list.
Lewis has dropped down to the 32nd spot, but he's not off. Some say he's not even in the top 50 anymore, but I'm not buying that. Neither are Ravens coaches, who insist he's still playing at a high level.
If he falls off this coming season -- don't expect it -- Lewis could fall out of my top 50.
Life can really be cruel to veteran players. The CBS SportsLine.com Top 50 is no different.
Change is swift, especially if the skills begin to erode.
1. Peyton Manning, QB, Indianapolis Colts: You'd be hard-pressed to find people -- outside the Boston area, that is -- who would argue about him owning this spot now.
2. Tom Brady, QB, New England Patriots: He's just a hair behind Manning. Look out now, though, with all those receivers on the roster. This could be a special year for Brady.
3. LaDainian Tomlinson, RB, San Diego Chargers: He's a sensational all-round weapon. If he plays long enough, he might break all the rushing records.
4. Champ Bailey, CB, Denver Broncos: He is the best defensive player in the league. You can compare him to Deion Sanders, which is high praise.
5. Carson Palmer, QB, Cincinnati Bengals: It took him a little while to get going after the knee injury, but he had another big year. He's right below Manning and Brady.
6. Walter Jones, T, Seattle Seahawks: You can always count on this guy to play at a Pro Bowl level. He's on his way to the Hall of Fame.
7. Chad Johnson, WR, Cincinnati Bengals: Along with Palmer, they make up the best of the young pass-catching duos in the league. Johnson really elevated his game in the second half of the 2006 season.
8. Shawne Merriman, LB, San Diego Chargers: Getting 17 sacks in 12 games is dominance. He comes off the edge with force. Is the sack record possible? You bet.
9. Julius Peppers, DE, Carolina Panthers: He's only 27, which means he's just now reaching his peak. He has the tools to be a 16-sack guy every year. He can also play the run.
10. Brian Urlacher, LB, Chicago Bears: A few years ago, he was more reputation than production. Not anymore. He is now a dominant middle linebacker.
11. Richard Seymour, DE, New England Patriots: One of the class guys in the NFL is also one heck of a player. When he got hurt in the AFC Championship Game loss to the Colts, it really showed up on the defense.
12. Dwight Freeney, DE, Indianapolis Colts: His numbers were down last year, but he's still one of the most disruptive defensive players in the league.
13. John Henderson, DT, Jacksonville Jaguars: Coach Jack Del Rio said Henderson is the first three-gap tackle he's seen. That's as good as it gets. Why can't he get voted into the Pro Bowl?
14. Andre Johnson, WR, Houston Texans: It's too bad he plays in Houston because he doesn't get the due he deserves, especially since he has never really had an option on the other side.
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Drew Brees, Jason Taylor, Ed Reed (Getty Images) 15. Drew Brees, QB, New Orleans Saints: He showed a lot skeptics -- including this writer -- that he wasn't just a product of the San Diego offense. He really fits with Saints coach Sean Payton's offense.
16. Jason Taylor, DE, Miami Dolphins: The NFL Defensive Player of the Year in 2006 can still be a pass-rush force. What's more impressive is how much better he plays the run now.
17. Ed Reed, S, Baltimore Ravens: He's the most complete safety in the league. He has range and can tackle. He's the prototype for the modern safety.
18. Kevin Williams, DT, Minnesota Vikings: Playing next to Pat Williams, he's a big reason why the Vikings led the NFL in run defense.
19. Torry Holt, WR, St. Louis Rams: He's a pass-catching machine. For some reason, though, he never gets his due.
20. Larry Johnson, RB, Kansas City: For the second consecutive year, he put up huge numbers. He's a big-play threat every time he touches it.
21. Frank Gore, RB, San Francisco 49ers: Gore had his breakout season in 2006. He's a tough, hard-nosed runner who pops with power through the hole.
22. Adrian Wilson, S, Arizona Cardinals: For the past three years, he has been one of the most underrated players in the league. Now he's a true Pro Bowl player.
23. Antonio Gates, TE, San Diego Chargers: He is such a valuable weapon in the middle of the field that he helps offset the fact the Chargers don't have a go-to receiver.
24. Jammal Brown, T, New Orleans Saints: His move from the right side to the left side was a smooth one. It earned him his first trip to the Pro Bowl. He will be there for a lot of years.
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Steve Smith, M. Harrison, Will Smith (Getty Images) 25. Steve Smith, WR, Carolina Panthers: He was banged up some last season with a hamstring injury, so he wasn't as explosive as usual. When he's 100 percent, he's lightning fast.
26. Marvin Harrison, WR, Indianapolis Colts: His ticket to the Hall is punched, yet there is no real fall-off in production as he ages.
27. Will Smith, DE, New Orleans Saints: Without him, the Saints defense would be in big trouble. When the opposing offense puts up points, he pins his ears and attacks. He's a force off the edge.
28. Tommie Harris, DT, Chicago Bears: He's coming off a hamstring injury, but when he's healthy he's a major disrupter inside. The Bears really missed him in the Super Bowl.
29. Steven Jackson, RB, St. Louis Rams: He had his breakout season in 2006 and the Rams expect even more. He's also a great pass-catcher out of the backfield.
30. Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Arizona Cardinals: When he and Matt Leinart become more comfortable together, Fitzgerald's numbers will improve. He has the big-play ability all the great receivers need.
31. Shawn Andrews, G, Philadelphia Eagles: He physically dominates defenders. He's a power player who is also pretty good in pass protection.
32. Ray Lewis, LB, Baltimore Ravens: Some scouts say he's lost a step. If he has, he's still the best at his position in the AFC.
33. Reggie Wayne, WR, Indianapolis Colts: He's not just the other receiver on the Colts offense anymore. He could be the No. 1 wideout on a lot of teams.
34. DeAngelo Hall, CB, Atlanta Falcons: This gambling corner has a knack for the big play. He does get beat once in a while, but that's because he plays a lot of man coverage.
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D. Hall, S. Hutchinson, Lee Evans (Getty Images) 35. Steve Hutchinson, G, Minnesota Vikings: Some scouts say he didn't play as well with the Vikings as he did with Seattle, but he remains among the top at his position.
36. Lee Evans, WR, Buffalo Bills: He flashed star potential last season and should be even better in 2007. He's one of the rising players on this list.
37. Nnamdi Asomugha, CB, Oakland Raiders: The Raiders have great history with corners and this is the next star. He showed shutdown ability last season.
38. Sean Taylor, S, Washington Commanders: This big-hitting safety has the range you like to play the pass. He plays with an attitude.
39. Donovan McNabb, QB, Philadelphia Eagles: McNabb is coming off a major knee injury, so there are still concerns. But he's still one of the better quarterbacks in the league.
40. Terence Newman, CB, Dallas Cowboys: It was shame he didn't play in the Pro Bowl last year. He was robbed.
41. Bob Sanders, S, Indianapolis Colts: He is small for the position, but he packs quite a punch. When he returned to the Colts lineup in the playoffs, you could see the impact.
42. Jonathan Ogden, T, Baltimore Ravens: He might not be as good as he was a few years ago, but he's still one of the better left tackles in the game.
43. Ty Warren, DE, New England Patriots: He's the most underrated player in the league. He could be on his way to his first Pro Bowl this season.
44. Kerry Rhodes, S, New York Jets: Most people would be shocked to see him on the list, but he had a Pro Bowl season in 2006. He will get his due this year.
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R. Mathis, T. Gonzalez, Keith Bulluck (Getty Images) 45. Rashean Mathis, CB, Jacksonville Jaguars: He was selected to his first Pro Bowl last season, and the coaches say he's just scratched the surface of his talents.
46. Tony Gonzalez, TE, Kansas City Chiefs: Even though he's getting up in the years he is still a force in the middle of the field. He's happy now, too, since he received a new contract from the team.
47. Keith Bulluck, LB, Tennessee Titans: With the Titans defense struggling so much, he doesn't get the credit he deserves. The players who face him know how good he plays his position.
48. Marcus Stroud, DT, Jacksonville Jaguars: Were it not for injuries, he'd be much higher on this list.
49. DeMarcus Ware, OLB, Dallas Cowboys: He's an explosive player who should really benefit from playing under Wade Phillips.
50. Jamal Williams, DT, San Diego Chargers: He's the best run-stuffing nose tackle in the league. He makes it tough to run on the Chargers.
Just missed: Brian Westbrook, RB, Eagles; Shaun Alexander, RB, Seahawks; Asante Samuel, CB, Patriots; Troy Polamalu, S, Steelers; Luis Castillo, DT, Chargers; Deuce McAllister, RB, Saints; Reggie Bush, RB, Saints; Vince Wilfork, DT, Patriots; Nate Clements, CB, 49ers; Casey Hampton, NT, Steelers; Orlando Pace, T, Rams; Brian Waters, G, Chiefs; Logan Mankins, G, Patriots; Olin Kreutz, C, Bears; Fred Taylor, RB, Jaguars; Mike Strahan, DE, Giants; Julian Peterson, LB, Seahawks.

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2 Huge criticisms with this list:


6. Walter Jones, T, Seattle Seahawks: You can always count on this guy to play at a Pro Bowl level. He's on his way to the Hall of Fame.

The highest rated tackle in all of the NFL is creditted with allowing a whopping 10.5 sacks last season per STATS LLC.
(For reference... our very own Flo and Colombo allowed 7.5 and 4.5 sacks respectively)


38. Sean Taylor, S, Washington Commanders: This big-hitting safety has the range you like to play the pass. He plays with an attitude.

Per AdamJT13:
"Sean Taylor allowed more catches and more yards, had far fewer interceptions and far fewer PDs, AND he led the league in TD catches allowed -- 11. Taylor also led the league BY FAR in missed tackles with 19, the highest total in the 11 years that STATS has been keeping track of them. "
 

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Good to see Newman getting the pub he deserves.

Out of the top 10 the only one I have a problem with is Jones, and as good as Johnson is hes not top 10 IMO.

11-20= Seymour, Freeney, and Andre Johnson are too high IMO

21-30= Will Smith before DeMarcus? Tommy Harris ???

31-40= Mcnabb and Taylor Im against here.

41-50= are ok for me
 

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playmakers;1529135 said:
Good to see Newman getting the pub he deserves.

Out of the top 10 the only one I have a problem with is Jones, and as good as Johnson is hes not top 10 IMO.

11-20= Seymour, Freeney, and Andre Johnson are too high IMO

21-30= Will Smith before DeMarcus? Tommy Harris ???

31-40= Mcnabb and Taylor Im against here.

41-50= are ok for me

How does Seymour not get his due on this board people slate him all the time. He was one of the Pats best finds he fits their system and excels in it hes now by far and away their best defensive player and yes I am including Thomas.
 

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He had 4 sacks last year, never had more than 5.5 in a season and always seems to be questionable on the injury report every week. Is he good, yes! Should he be number 11, no! I would put him between 30-50. Number 11 should be a Derrick Thomas, Bruce Smith, Ronnie Lott, etc. I know they play different postions but Im refering to defense as a whole. Those guys were game changers. Seymour is moreso a very solid player as oppose to a game changer. Is he as good as a Johnny Randle in his prime? I dont know. Dont get me wrong, I dont want to sound negative but I think 11 is way too high. Remember, its the 11th best player in the entire league. Whats your opinion back.
 

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Anyone who ranks DeAngelo Hall as the second-best cornerback in the NFL and Sean Taylor as the third-best safety either doesn't pay close attention or doesn't care about actual performance. Both of those guys have immense talent but haven't come close to playing up to their potential.
 

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I think 4 sacks for a 3-4 defensive end in the Parcells-Belichick system of two-gappers is actually quite good, you have to remeber the difference in the 3-4 from the one the chargers play where Castillo, who could well be on that list, aims for 10 sacks a season. No one runs on Seymour, he plays everydown even moving inside to DT in dime/nickle situations, all 4 sacks this year came in this situation on 3rd down. I think he gets ignored a lot by fans of other teams mainly because of the stats but between him and Asante Samuel the Pats shut down pretty much one side of the field every play allowing the linebackers to float and make plays. He is asked to do a helluva lot of ugly stuff but he chases down and contains a lot of plays from the back side as well.

Oh and he registered 8 sacks in 03. His stat line for your ammusement from 06.

2006 New England Patriots GAMES 16 TTL 40 TKL 22.0 ASSISTS 18 SACKS 4 INT 1 PASS DEF 7

Other interesting info:

Was voted a defensive captain for the 2006 season by his teammates ... Led the team or tied for the team lead in sacks three times in 2006 (vs. BUF, at NYJ, vs. CHI) ... Led the team in quarterback hits twice in 2006 (vs. DEN, vs. HOU) ... Tied for the team lead in passes defensed three times in 2006 (at MIN, vs. HOU, at JAX).

"He's the best defensive lineman in the league," the San Diego Chargers' Luis Castillo says. "But if you look at his career, he's averaged only about five sacks a year."

"I've seen New England go with one down lineman," Hasselbeck says. "You think, 'Anybody should be able to run at will against that.' But the one down lineman was Seymour. He picked up the double team, and you couldn't run against it."

and to some it up

"He's the cornerstone of a defense which has become a foundation to a dynasty," Solomon Wilcots
 

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"Here's a list of the players I think are the top-50 in the NFL."

"Based on what?"

"Based on who I think are the top-50 players in the NFL."

Why are people debating over who should be where? This is based 100% on Pete Prisco's opinion which has no more validity than yours or mine. Well actually, mine would have much more validity because it's mine but we won't go into that right now.

Who gives a damn what some mediot THINKS?
 

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Deangelo hall "gets beat once in a while" how about once a game just about.
Sean Taylor STANK it up last year. Jones allowed 10.5 sacks last year.
Champ Bailey is NOWHERE near as good as Deion was at his best. Champ is probably the best in the league right now, but Deion arguably was the best of all time at shutting down top WRs. Something Bailey has NOT done (and something Newman HAS done).
 

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Why is Jamal Williams at 50.

Like, I'm being serial on this. Super serial.
 

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This list is horrid.

TO is considered by many to be a top three receiver in the league, yet Lee Evans is listed and he isn't.
 

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SultanOfSix;1529282 said:
This list is horrid.

TO is considered by many to be a top three receiver in the league, yet Lee Evans is listed and he isn't.

I'll say it again, consider the source.
 

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I usually don't get to caught up with this sort of stuff but it is articles like this that make me wonder how in the hell this guy has a job.
 
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You know what, Dallas players will get their due next year, I'm not worried about what so called columnist write. People it's done on the field, the recognition will come with that...:wink2:
 

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SultanOfSix;1529282 said:
This list is horrid.

TO is considered by many to be a top three receiver in the league, yet Lee Evans is listed and he isn't.


Look at TO's performance over the last few years. That "top three" status hasn't been justified since 2004.

Last season, he COULD have jumped back there but as we all know, he dropped far too many balls in key situations to earn "top three" love.
 
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