Peter King's mock -- some interesting stuff...

[Fla Cowpoke]

They pretty much have said no to DT so I doubt it for the most part, but I think King's mock is awful.

 

[Stash]

I cannot disagree more. And your use of "pieced together" is the whole point. Why continue to have to try to cobble together a DL? We did that same thing for years on the OL, shoving out the OG and C equivalents of McClain. Why not just fix it?

I never said not to. I said I don't believe the way to do that is to use a 1st round pick.

And I don't expect the Cowboys to do so.

In fact, I will be shocked if the Cowboys use their 1st round pick on a defensive tackle, no matter who is there at #27.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

If Brown is the BPA then they should get him. No reason why he and Crawford cannot be on the field at the same time on third down.

 

[jterrell]

I cannot disagree more. And your use of "pieced together" is the whole point. Why continue to have to try to cobble together a DL? We did that same thing for years on the OL, shoving out the OG and C equivalents of McClain. Why not just fix it?

issue here is, you aren't the one doing the drafting.
dallas has shown ZERO inclination to draft a 300 plus pound DT in round 1.
in fact they have stated any number of times they feel the 1T is a position they can fill in round 6 or 7.

Brown is a value at 27 but Dallas just doesnt seem likely to reverse course and draft him after passing a better athlete at the position, Sharrif Floyd, just recently.

 

[Bowdown27]

I can't see this team taking a DT at #27, especially if two of the draft's most dynamic pass rushers are sitting there.

This team and staff have shown that they feel they can get good production from less cost than a 1st round investment at the defensive tackle position.

That's my idea. He seems to not fit marinelli scheme. A lot of cowboys "analysts" have been saying that

 

[Zekeats]

I got a feel in Gurley goes way earlier than everyone thinks. I think he ends up in NY with the Jets or Giants.

 

[jterrell]

FWIW, it will be an interesting draft.

Dallas has shown they do not value DT and RB with high picks though those could certainly be considered key team needs.
I suspect Dallas is hoping for a DE/CB combo in the first two rounds than a round 3 RB.

That's based entirely on their stated philosophy of the recent past including comments after the last couple drafts.

We'll have months to debate the moves after the draft but right now makes sense to look at what they might actually do.

 

[AbeBeta]

If it goes that way, I'd expect us to either move back or take the LB from UCLA - or both.

 

[Tobal]

When was the last time Dallas took a guard in the 1st round? Just because they passed on Floyd, doesn't mean they don't value DT's. Brown would be a dynamic 1 like Booger McFarland. He could also easily play the 3. Tell me what happens if Crawford is injured?

 

[Idgit]

FWIW, it will be an interesting draft.

Dallas has shown they do not value DT and RB with high picks though those could certainly be considered key team needs.
I suspect Dallas is hoping for a DE/CB combo in the first two rounds than a round 3 RB.

That's based entirely on their stated philosophy of the recent past including comments after the last couple drafts.

We'll have months to debate the moves after the draft but right now makes sense to look at what they might actually do.

This is exactly what it looks like. If the right DT (and one who can also play some 3 tech) is there, they'd consider it, I'm sure, but they've shown that's a position they both like to platoon and that they believe they can develop. They're doing the same thing with the front 7 on defense they did along the OL: draft quality players when ability meets opportunity, and fill in in the interim with good-value veterans and devoting extra bodies to the position groups while they churn long shots and college free agents to develop. The only difference is we've finally now all seen and can no longer refute that that process worked well for the OL so we're hearing less complaining about it this time around. Which is nice.

The reality was, the team was talent-poor overall in backup positions and mostly upside down on big contracts in 2010, and we've had to plug holes while drafting and developing starters. We've got some players in Crawford and Lawrence and Hardy and Lee and McClain and even Hitchens along the front now to work with. The challenge is building a deep rotation that's solid across the board. From here, you do that with top-100 picks, which is why I'd love to see us able to trade down and maybe come away with a pair of top 100 guys for the front 7. If it's not to be, though, backing up Hardy or McClain with a versatile player makes more sense than adding a DT high.

CB isn't as high a priority in my book as it seems to be in others. We've got to replace a dime back in Claiborne and decide what to do with Carr, but this draft is deep at CB and we can always add a starter to the unit in VFA before the next draft if we want to go that route. Plus, we ought to give Patmon an actual chance to develop into a real contributor because I think he's shown enough to have earned a shot. If the board breaks to where a CB is the smart pick in round one, so be it. As long as we add players to the defense, I'll be happy, but I think we can better use the help along the front right now. There's also depth there for the secondary later in this draft, so we'll have our options to add a CB at some point.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

When was the last time Dallas took a guard in the 1st round? Just because they passed on Floyd, doesn't mean they don't value DT's. Brown would be a dynamic 1 like Booger McFarland. He could also easily play the 3. Tell me what happens if Crawford is injured?

Brown was poorly coached at UT. As much as he played his three years in college that was some pathetic foot and handwork i saw him using even to my neophyte eyes. He and Armstead both are very overrated in my book.

 

[Risen Star]

I cannot disagree more. And your use of "pieced together" is the whole point. Why continue to have to try to cobble together a DL? We did that same thing for years on the OL, shoving out the OG and C equivalents of McClain. Why not just fix it?

Exactly right. The get by mentality in the trenches. Pffft.

As an aside, Dorsett at 16. The thing is, he's got such elite speed that if he hits, you have such a dynamic weapon in your offense. Only a handful of players in the league at best can offer that kind of impact. I could understand if a team over drafted him for it.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

When was the last time Dallas took a guard in the 1st round? Just because they passed on Floyd, doesn't mean they don't value DT's. Brown would be a dynamic 1 like Booger McFarland. He could also easily play the 3. Tell me what happens if Crawford is injured?

The issue is that they didn't bring in any of the DT. They brought in CB, LB, DE, and RB and unless those positions are wiped out I don't see them passing on Peters or Jones for example.

 

[gmoney112]

Peter's so plugged in he doesn't even know Dallas doesn' t make a habit of drafting players that don't visit.

Unless I missed where Brown came for a workout, then we aren't going to draft him in the 1st.

 

[Parcells4Life]

All they need to do is rewatch the Packers game to see how deadly it is when you can't hold your own in the middle. The 1-legged man can kill you and then you can't hold up in the run game in the 4th.

Marinelli has been great for a lot of things in his tenure, his management of the 1-tech has not been one of them. I think that also can be attributed to the reason the LBs keep getting beat up, there's no one to keep the opposing OL off the second level so the linebackers are being crushed by 320 pound linemen and they can't take that much punishment.

 

[Macnalty]

Guess I can see Miami taking Gurley, although I thought they had a decent group of backs already. They need to fix their interior offensive line. Even Gurley will struggle behind that mess.

Dolphin fan group is all about the Oline and some spattering of Gurley but mostly Oline, they would be disappointed and feel they are close to making some progress this year.