Peter King's Take On The Cowboy Disaster...

Shotgun Dave;2535811 said:
If you look at production on the field, TO has played and continues to play CIRCLES around Roy 11.
Roy has been a bigger problem, no question.
 
Shotgun Dave;2535811 said:
If you look at production on the field, TO has played and continues to play CIRCLES around Roy 11. TO has the body of a 25 year old WR - a RIPPED 25 year old WR at that.
Not this again.

Look, you can go on the innernets and find pictures of 45 year old guys with ripped abs. It doesn't mean they have the same athletic ability they had when they were 25. It just doesn't. You can't tell about quickness and explosion by outward appearances.

Some of you guys act like TO will never age. Do you really believe that? Say that TO lasts a few years longer than most due to the way he takes care of himself. He's STILL going to get old... Like it or not.

And on Roy11, I agree that he looks like crap right now. But we're stuck with him for a long time. And I still think he can be a LOT better than what he's shown the last few games.
 
I think King is spot on except his comments about Roy. I want to see what Roy does with a full training camp not coming over in midseason and only playing with Romo for 6 games. That's not enough time to evaluate him.

The thing with TO. I think he is a hell of a receiver but I don't think this team will ever win with his attitude of get me the ball. If he dials that down(which would take a miracle) then I think there could be some success but I don't see that happening.
 
theogt;2535677 said:
He's "correct" on most of what he says, because he's just pointing at what most people would point at, regardless of whether they had an understanding of the what went wrong or not.


That's what media folks do theo.
 
Chocolate Lab;2535828 said:
Not this again.

Look, you can go on the innernets and find pictures of 45 year old guys with ripped abs. It doesn't mean they have the same athletic ability they had when they were 25. It just doesn't. You can't tell about quickness and explosion by outward appearances.

Some of you guys act like TO will never age. Do you really believe that? Say that TO lasts a few years longer than most due to the way he takes care of himself. He's STILL going to get old... Like it or not.

And on Roy11, I agree that he looks like crap right now. But we're stuck with him for a long time. And I still think he can be a LOT better than what he's shown the last few games.

TO is aging like the rest of humanity? Really?

:rolleyes:

Where in my post did I say to make TO our #1 for the next 5 years? Where did I say he'll never get old?

You've inferred things I never said. Take TO being ripped out of the equation. Let's say instead he weighs 300 pounds and moves like Flozell out there.

He's still played circles around the rest of our WR's and is a top 10 WR in this league. How much longer he continues to do it is a question mark, and that's why the issue of his being ripped matters. He takes exceptional care of himself, and his production reflects that.

I never said he had to be our go-to WR for the next 5 years.
 
I'm a huge TO fan but I agree also. I also think that with TO gone, Jason Garrett will be forced to make his receivers run their routes properly.
 
Clove;2536032 said:
I'm a huge TO fan but I agree also. I also think that with TO gone, Jason Garrett will be forced to make his receivers run their routes properly.


I just wish he'd be forced to run the ball.
 
Clove;2536032 said:
I'm a huge TO fan but I agree also. I also think that with TO gone, Jason Garrett will be forced to make his receivers run their routes properly.

If getting rid of a clear #1 WR is what it takes to get our Assistant Head Coach to do his freaking job, then we need a different Assistant Head Coach.

This is getting comical.
 
what QB doesnt want to get his best WR the ball... this is funny! getting the ball to the open guy is great in theory but when push comes to blows its like 0ontana looking for Jerry too much or Unitas looking for Berry too much!


the flaw is the QB and his lack of leadership over his team and his WRs!
 
Shotgun Dave;2536069 said:
If getting rid of a clear #1 WR is what it takes to get our Assistant Head Coach to do his freaking job, then we need a different Assistant Head Coach.

This is getting comical.
I would personally prefer a coach who would demand certain things from top to bottom, so that's not going to happen with Jerry at the helm, so may as well get players with less star power, who's job is always on the line.
 
tyke1doe;2535644 said:
I know the T.O. apologist don't want to hear this and suckle at his muscle teats to excuse him for complaining about not getting the ball, but T.O. is in Romo's mind, and he represents the "me-first" attitude with this team. It's not going to happen, but T.O., as good as he is, might be an addition by subtraction. Now, I don't know the cap ramifications on cutting him, and I doubt Jerry will do it, but it is my prediction that this team will reach the Super Bowl the year after T.O. leaves.

I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

OK, maybe somebody should make this clear to you:

There is absolutely NO EVIDENCE that Owens "complains" about not getting the ball any more than any other receiver in football. None.

Nobody who actually has played with Owens has ever mentioned that he constantly complains about not getting the ball. Not McNabb, not Garcia, not Romo.

So, in essence, you're just talking out of your ***.

Additionally, the very idea that a quarterback and offensive coordinator are thinking "Uh oh, we'd better forget about throwing to who is open and running our offense and winning the game to appeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease Terrell Owens" just shows how incredibly far out of touch with reality you really are.

You honestly believe that's the way it works?

That Owens is SO bad and SO selfish and SO detrimental on the sidelines that the quarterback and the coaches are making their game day decisions to try to avoid him COMPLAINING?

Seriously. Just think about this one and hopefully you'll realize how foolish it is to believe that.
 
Thank you. Enough of this "most talented team in the league" stuff. That is probably why everyone is so shocked/disappointed. We've overrated the talent on this team. So many players just aren't who we thought they were.
 
CaptainAmerica;2535611 said:
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Two: Cut the 34-year-old baby, Terrell Owens. With T.O. gone, Romo could drop back to pass and look for an open receiver -- not an open receiver with the number 81. You simply can't play football that way, and no matter what Romo says,

Brett Favre won his first MVP in 1995, the year after Sterling Sharpe, a HOF caliber WR, had a career ending injury. Sterling Sharpe broke the NFL record for most receptions in a season two years in a row with Favre, and Favre looked for him on pretty much every play. Sterling Sharpe was "the guy" in GB before Favre really became superman and the best thing that ever happened to Favre is the Packers loosing one of the best WR talents in Packer history.

I see parallels here with Romo and Owens. It could very well be that Romo won't take the next step until Owens is gone.
 
perrykemp;2536753 said:
Brett Favre won his first MVP in 1995, the year after Sterling Sharpe, a HOF caliber WR, had a career ending injury. Sterling Sharpe broke the NFL record for most receptions in a season two years in a row with Favre, and Favre looked for him on pretty much every play. Sterling Sharpe was "the guy" in GB before Favre really became superman and the best thing that ever happened to Favre is the Packers loosing one of the best WR talents in Packer history.

I see parallels here with Romo and Owens. It could very well be that Romo won't take the next step until Owens is gone.
Hide. Owens is God. Run Forrest run.
 
perrykemp;2536753 said:
Brett Favre won his first MVP in 1995, the year after Sterling Sharpe, a HOF caliber WR, had a career ending injury. Sterling Sharpe broke the NFL record for most receptions in a season two years in a row with Favre, and Favre looked for him on pretty much every play. Sterling Sharpe was "the guy" in GB before Favre really became superman and the best thing that ever happened to Favre is the Packers loosing one of the best WR talents in Packer history.

I see parallels here with Romo and Owens. It could very well be that Romo won't take the next step until Owens is gone.

Or like when Aikman lost Irvin .... uh, no, he sucked badly after that.


Favre won b/c he had a good TEAM around him, both players & coaches. Not to mention that the elite teams like Dallas and even SF were no longer at their best. It's about timing, and taking advantage of opportunities.
 
TO is not the problem. If you think getting rid of him is going to make the OL block or to even recognize the right people to block you're nuts.

And it's clear to even me that we're getting outcoached. When teams jump our routes to the point they're more open than the WR, you've got some problems.

If Jerry doesn't stir some things up then we are in for a shock.
 
tyke1doe;2535644 said:
I know the T.O. apologist don't want to hear this and suckle at his muscle teats to excuse him for complaining about not getting the ball, but T.O. is in Romo's mind, and he represents the "me-first" attitude with this team. It's not going to happen, but T.O., as good as he is, might be an addition by subtraction. Now, I don't know the cap ramifications on cutting him, and I doubt Jerry will do it, but it is my prediction that this team will reach the Super Bowl the year after T.O. leaves.

I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.



THANK YOU, BURGER KING!!!

This team lives in a delusional world. It thinks it can just step on the field and teams are going to fall over because of all the talent. Talent? What talent?
No, this team is not the most talented in the league, for the reasons King stated above.

Bravo.

:clap:

Thanks for that, now I am officially salivating. I feel like a whopper virgin in the middle of Antarctica! I am starving right now, I should have eaten today!!!!

Between this and that one poster with Allison in his sig pic, this site is killing me :D
 
Chocolate Lab;2535629 said:
Well, he got this part right. (Except for Newman playing like a Bowling Green walk-on.)
Sorry, but Newman played like crap! He is good, NOT great.
 

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