Peter Warrick refuses paycut Agent is

[mavsfan2121]

Warrick refused a paycut. I didnt realize his agent was Rosenhaus. This leads me to 2 questions.

#1 Did Rosenhaus tells Warrick to refuse paycut because he can get him a solid deal with the Eagles?

#2 Would the Eagles even deal with Rosenhaus on a Warrick deal after the advice he has been offering TO?

#3 Could this lead to a peaceful understanding. Rosenhaus sits down with Eagles and delivers them a happy TO and a happy Warrick?

 

[InmanRoshi]

Where is the outcry that the Bengals won't fulfill the contract obligations that they agreed to?

 

[calico]

Where is the outcry that the Bengals won't fulfill the contract obligations that they agreed to?

Warrick did not live UP to the contract he was given. I have no problem with them asking him to take a pay cut.

 

[ravidubey]

Where is the outcry that the Bengals won't fulfill the contract obligations that they agreed to?

Agreed. The character police regarding all of these disputes heavily slam players. Warrick can't lose by sticking to his guns unless Cincy's offered reduced salary would be more than he could get on the open market, which I doubt.

 

[Smith22]

Players know they can be cut at any time. That's just the way it is.

If they don't like it, then they should try and change the CBA. After all, they do have a union.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Warrick did not live UP to the contract he was given. I have no problem with them asking him to take a pay cut.

But when a player's play exceeds the contract he signed, he needs to just shut up and play to his contract. He signed. it.

I know I'm tired of these billionaire owners being taken advantage of.

 

[Doomsday101]

GEORGETOWN, Ky. - Now you can count Peter Warrick along with everyone else who is confused about his status.

The Bengals wide receiver told some media members Wednesday that he thought he had been cleared the night before in a physical and that he was ready to practice in the morning. But after Warrick sat out, head coach Marvin Lewis said in a post-practice news conference that the final decision rests with himself and Bengals president Mike Brown.

Yet, even though he hasn’t taken a snap for a full practice since the Monday night win over Denver in October, Warrick is still listed as questionable for Friday night’s preseason opener against New England at Paul Brown Stadium, and offensive coordinator Bob Bratkowski said it wasn’t out of the realm that Warrick could work Wednesday night.

“We still get to determine where he’s at,” Lewis said. “Coach Lewis, Mike Brown. “(The trainers) don’t make decisions. They tell us where they think he is one way or the other. Mike has the final decision. We’ll wait until we feel good when the time is right based on where we feel he is. He’s not cleared.”

An obviously disappointed Warrick seemed to be at a loss.

“It’s on them. I don’t know what they want,” Warrick said.

Told Lewis said he wasn’t cleared, Warrick said, “Then I can’t do anything about it. Did he tell you why? I don’t know.”

Lewis didn’t get into specifics, but there are clearly big financial implications if Warrick is activated from the physically unable to play list but his knee isn’t up to it. Once the team passes him on the physical and puts him on the field, then it is liable for his $2.2 million salary.

But there are plenty of indicators that the Bengals think he can still play and aren’t ready to cut him yet. They could have approached him about doing an injury settlement or waiving him because of a failed physical, but apparently they aren’t ready to do either of those things in a bid to make sure he’ll be able to stay on the field.

The downcast Warrick of Wednesday morning was a clear contrast from the upbeat Warrick who declared himself ready to prove wrong the people that have doubted him since he’s been hurt.

 

[Yeagermeister]

But when a player's play exceeds the contract he signed, he needs to just shut up and play to his contract. He signed. it.

I know I'm tired of these billionaire owners being taken advantage of.

They can ask for a raise but not after the first year of a 7 yr deal. I see nothing wrong with Hines Ward holding out because he's in the last year of his contract.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Players know they can be cut at any time. That's just the way it is.

If they don't like it, then they should try and change the CBA. After all, they do have a union.

Exactly.

Or, if a guy is so sure the best contract offer he can get is "unfair", just sign a one year deal every year.

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

Where is the outcry that the Bengals won't fulfill the contract obligations that they agreed to?

:bravo: :toast:

 

[joseephuss]

Where is the outcry that the Bengals won't fulfill the contract obligations that they agreed to?

I think the situations are just slightly different. If the Bengals cut Warrick, he can go out and get equal or greater value from some other team. If T.O. sits out, are the Eagles getting any type of value from that?

People chose sides in the player vs. management battles based on who is involved. There is no great love for Peter Warrick, so no great out cry. People hate T.O., so no one wants to side with him. Hines Ward has lots of support for his similar situation; however, similar is not the same. Hines has played for a few years under his current deal, T.O. only played one.

I think there would be an outcry if the Eagles came into the year asking T.O. to take a pay cut after only playing one year under the current contract.

Lots of variables are involved. I am just glad this stuff isn't happening in Dallas this year.

 

[joseephuss]

But when a player's play exceeds the contract he signed, he needs to just shut up and play to his contract. He signed. it.

I know I'm tired of these billionaire owners being taken advantage of.

I think it alright if T.O. or any player asks for a pay raise on their current contract. It just seems a little bad when he does it after only one year. It is also the fashion in which he has done it. He could have asked privately and pressured the Eagles internally instead of the spectacle that he has made it. The media waits for stories like this and he immediately fed them this one.

 

[ravidubey]

Players know they can be cut at any time. That's just the way it is.

If they don't like it, then they should try and change the CBA. After all, they do have a union.

Yeah, and slice off the hands that feeds them like they were doing in Basketball, they're still doing in Baseball, and just got spanked for doing in Hockey.
Automatically guaranteed contracts would hurt both the NFL and players both by diverting a percentage of precious cap money to injured players or those who can no longer play.

The NFL proved it can break all comers including the Player's Union, the WFL and USFL, NBC, Maurice Clarett, all competing sports leagues, and a few Governors.

 

[tyke1doe]

I think the situations are just slightly different. If the Bengals cut Warrick, he can go out and get equal or greater value from some other team. If T.O. sits out, are the Eagles getting any type of value from that?

People chose sides in the player vs. management battles based on who is involved. There is no great love for Peter Warrick, so no great out cry. People hate T.O., so no one wants to side with him. Hines Ward has lots of support for his similar situation; however, similar is not the same. Hines has played for a few years under his current deal, T.O. only played one.

I think there would be an outcry if the Eagles came into the year asking T.O. to take a pay cut after only playing one year under the current contract.

Lots of variables are involved. I am just glad this stuff isn't happening in Dallas this year.

Very good post. At least you understand nuances.

 

[ravidubey]

I think it alright if T.O. or any player asks for a pay raise on their current contract. It just seems a little bad when he does it after only one year. It is also the fashion in which he has done it. He could have asked privately and pressured the Eagles internally instead of the spectacle that he has made it. The media waits for stories like this and he immediately fed them this one.

TO has every right to ask to be paid more and Philly has every right to refuse. But bringing this BS out in the open was brain-dead.

Still TO has a point; who in the NFL has been better on the field with less at QB? Why do Harrison and Muhammad make more than he does? TO got shafted by his agent in '04 and Philadelphia had him over a barrell. He signed his contract because it was the only one he could receive. As a true free agent, TO would have made much more.

 

[Hostile]

Warrick refused a paycut. I didnt realize his agent was Rosenhaus. This leads me to 2 questions.

#1 Did Rosenhaus tells Warrick to refuse paycut because he can get him a solid deal with the Eagles?

#2 Would the Eagles even deal with Rosenhaus on a Warrick deal after the advice he has been offering TO?

#3 Could this lead to a peaceful understanding. Rosenhaus sits down with Eagles and delivers them a happy TO and a happy Warrick?

If they end up with Warrick and trade TO to the Falcons I say advantage rest of the NFC East.

 

[jimmy40]

Where is the outcry that the Bengals won't fulfill the contract obligations that they agreed to?

If he doesn't like it I'll give him a job at $7.00 an hour, no benefits.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

TO got shafted by his agent in '04 and Philadelphia had him over a barrell. He signed his contract because it was the only one he could receive. As a true free agent, TO would have made much more.

Sounds to me like a reason to sue his former agent (which he won't do, on the basis that they're friends), not a reason to hold up a team and its fans.

 

[burmafrd]

Hines Ward is about the only guy I sympathise with- he has played very well for years and his contract is up- HE deserves a big deal. The others are not in the same category.

 

[Echo9]

But when a player's play exceeds the contract he signed, he needs to just shut up and play to his contract. He signed. it.

Yup, he signed it. And by signing it, he got a percentage in guarateed money in a signing bonus. The owners took a risk in giving him the signing bonus that he wouldn't get injured, and he wouldn't stink.

He hasn't lived up to the hype, but still got to walk away with the signing bonus and a good amount of salary.

Looks like the Bengals lost out on this one and are at the VERY LEAST able to cut their losses instead of being forced to continue to pay for a mistake and cripple their team for years (see Allan Houston and the Knicks, or any number of MLB contracts).