Peyton Manning > Tom Brady

[Gemini Dolly]

Are you blind???

Tom Brady is way hotter than Peyton Manning.

Tom>Peyton End. discussion. now.

 

[thechosen1n2]

I love the fact that people say "Brady played on a better team" and crap like that. Peyton Manning is an average qb in the playoffs. the one year he won a ring his defense bailed him out for throwing multiple picks vs chiefs,Ravens and a pick 6 vs a depleted New England team. Tom Brady is a better qb then Peyton Manning especially in the postseason.

Wrong rampage. Manning and Manning alone made the Colts contenders. The colts had no, none, zero defense and Manning was winning 13 games a year. As soon as he got something that resembled a defense, Manning Won. Manning better than Brady all day. Manning is the best QB now, and possibly ever. Its the intangibles. If Manning ever had the well rounded team theat the pats had, it would not even be a discussion.

 

[thechosen1n2]

Thats where its at!

Manning is not a QB, he is a field general who passes. I've never seen a QB manage an offense like he can.

ding ding ding..we got a winner.

 

[Rampage]

Wrong rampage. Manning and Manning alone made the Colts contenders. The colts had no, none, zero defense and Manning was winning 13 games a year. As soon as he got something that resembled a defense, Manning Won. Manning better than Brady all day. Manning is the best QB now, and possibly ever. Its the intangibles. If Manning ever had the well rounded team theat the pats had, it would not even be a discussion.

the defense won him that ring cause he was average at best in the 2006 playoffs. it looked like he was trying to lose some of those games. Brady doesn't turn the ball over like Peyton does when it counts. like your opinion matters anyway. you're the same guy who says big Ben is the best qb today.

 

[Rogah]

Dude, Manning is not just a QB. The guy is practically an offensive coordinator. Each of those guys is great in their own way but Peyton Manning is a QB all in his own category. Not saying he is above any single QB but what he does is rare. Extremely rare.

25 other guys you'd rather have in the postseason? Little overboard ain't it? IMO, Tom Brady might be the only one that has a legitimate argument in that case and I would probably take Tom.

I meant 25 all time.

 

[Rogah]

Wrong rampage. Manning and Manning alone made the Colts contenders. The colts had no, none, zero defense and Manning was winning 13 games a year.

You can say the exact same thing about the Patriots team that Brady inherited. They were 5-13 under Belichick and believe me, all of New England was calling for Belichick's head. So this talk that Brady inherited a great team is nonsense. But once Brady did take over, he turned 5-13 into 14-3 his very first year as a starter.

 

[rkell87]

You can say the exact same thing about the Patriots team that Brady inherited. They were 5-13 under Belichick and believe me, all of New England was calling for Belichick's head. So this talk that Brady inherited a great team is nonsense. But once Brady did take over, he turned 5-13 into 14-3 his very first year as a starter.

and the easiest schedule in the nfl

 

[rkell87]

I disagree. The Patriots were not setting the world on fire, or world beaters, when Brady took over for them. They were not good at all really.

I don't think Brady, to be perfectly honest, gets nearly enough credit for what he was able to do with that team on offense. He gave them a real shot on offense to make plays and allowed the guys around him to start to come around and make plays.

same thing with romo really and they both took over for the same guy(crazy right?) but when your talking QB play and look at brady vs. peyton in real life and not the stat sheet year to year with the team that is around them imo there is no question who is better and it isnt even close. yeah yeah rings whatever im sure peyton would trade his career for toms too but that doesn't change what he has done and the way he plays he may be the greastest ever.

 

[The Panch]

the defense won him that ring cause he was average at best in the 2006 playoffs. it looked like he was trying to lose some of those games. Brady doesn't turn the ball over like Peyton does when it counts. like your opinion matters anyway. you're the same guy who says big Ben is the best qb today.

Are you serious?



Before that AFCC game, Brady threw his 3rd pick against San Diego to lose the game, but Troy Brown bailed him out by forcing the fumble.

 

[Rampage]

Are you serious?



Before that AFCC game, Brady threw his 3rd pick against San Diego to lose the game, but Troy Brown bailed him out by forcing the fumble.

is that the same San Diego team who picked off Manning 6 times in 1 game or the San Diego team who knocked out Peyton's team from the playoffs the last 2 seasons?

 

[The Panch]

is that the same San Diego team who picked off Manning 6 times in 1 game or the San Diego team who knocked out Peyton's team from the playoffs the last 2 seasons?

It's also the same team that picked off Brady 3 times the following year as well.



And did you even see that game where Peyton threw 6 picks?? He was playing with a D-league Offensive line that couldnt block and a bunch of receivers starting that he's never hardly played with.


And the offensive line they had in the playoffs last year wasnt any better cause they couldnt protect Peyton at all.


And the year before, the defense didnt have their best player in Freeney, and let Billy Volek drive on them for the game winner. You're right tho, it's all Peyton.

 

[thechosen1n2]

the defense won him that ring cause he was average at best in the 2006 playoffs. it looked like he was trying to lose some of those games. Brady doesn't turn the ball over like Peyton does when it counts. like your opinion matters anyway. you're the same guy who says big Ben is the best qb today.

bruh you are so far from wrong. Every post i mention Ben its followed by Worthlessberger. Dude has made a few plays, but he lives off his defense.

 

[thechosen1n2]

Are you serious?



Before that AFCC game, Brady threw his 3rd pick against San Diego to lose the game, but Troy Brown bailed him out by forcing the fumble.

and he threw a huge pic against the colts in the AFCC game the year the colts won the SB.

 

[BeWare94]

In the regular season, there is no QB in history I would rather have than Peyton Manning. In the playoffs, I can think of about 25 QBs I would rather have than Peyton Manning, and Tom Brady is one of 'em.

Assuming both quarterbacks get to the playoffs, I think that what you do IN the playoffs is what really matters. Manning>Brady? If you value regular season statistics and accomplishments, perhaps. I tend to favor the 2 Super Bowl ring disparity in which Brady holds the distinct advantage.

 

[BeWare94]

Tom Brady is and was infinitely better than Bledsoe.

Was Matt Cassel infinitely greater than Drew Bledsoe as well, then?

 

[khiladi]

Counter-argument..

Brady also had Bellichek knowing the defensive play-calls, because of his cheating... Brady wasn't lighting the world on fire until he had Moss, so Moss impacted that offense significantly, otherwise they just weren't lighting the world on fire. Brady had a ridiculous OL two years ago that got away with plenty of holding.

Remember, the Super Bowl against the Panthers was because of a conveniently shafted kick-off that never happens, giving the Patriots the ball close to mid-field with a few seconds left. Then there was the tuck-rule...

 

[BeWare94]

Counter-argument..

Brady also had Bellichek knowing the defensive play-calls, because of his cheating... Brady wasn't lighting the world on fire until he had Moss, so Moss impacted that offense significantly, otherwise they just weren't lighting the world on fire. Brady had a ridiculous OL two years ago that got away with plenty of holding.

Remember, the Super Bowl against the Panthers was because of a conveniently shafted kick-off that never happens, giving the Patriots the ball close to mid-field with a few seconds left. Then there was the tuck-rule...

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What about the fumble call against Felix Jones last week versus the Packers? Or the 'touchdown that wasn't' in the SuperBowl when Roethlisberger clearly didn't cross the plane versus Seattle? There are bad calls in every game...you can't fault the team that benefits from them for taking advantage.

 

[Rogah]

Assuming both quarterbacks get to the playoffs, I think that what you do IN the playoffs is what really matters. Manning>Brady? If you value regular season statistics and accomplishments, perhaps. I tend to favor the 2 Super Bowl ring disparity in which Brady holds the distinct advantage.

+1. Like I said above if it's a regular season game against the Texans or the Jaguars, then I'll take Peyton Manning over anyone. But when it's the playoffs and we're talking the biggest games, I will take Brady (and a whole host of other guys) way before Manning.

 

[Rogah]

Counter-argument..

Brady also had Bellichek knowing the defensive play-calls, because of his cheating...

I honestly don't think you know what that whole scandal was about.

Brady wasn't lighting the world on fire until he had Moss, so Moss impacted that offense significantly, otherwise they just weren't lighting the world on fire.

Yes, he had to suffer through 3 Super Bowls while throwing to such future Hall of Famers as David Givens, Daniel Graham, David Patten and Deion Branch.

Brady had a ridiculous OL two years ago that got away with plenty of holding.

With all due respect, this comment is just too silly to address.

Remember, the Super Bowl against the Panthers was because of a conveniently shafted kick-off that never happens, giving the Patriots the ball close to mid-field with a few seconds left. Then there was the tuck-rule...

You could take about 75% of past champions, change one play somewhere along the line, and pretty much take away their championship. What if Jackie Smith doesn't drop that TD pass in Super Bowl 13? What if the referees don't screw the Oilers with that bad call and rob them of a touchdown in that playoff game against Pittsburgh? What if the referees don't screw Seattle 4 times in Super Bowl 40? What if Bettis doesn't make that tackle against the Colts? What if Warner doesn't throw a 99 yard interception on the final play of the 1st half? What if the refs called pass interference on the Deion Sanders/Michael Irvin play? What if Norwood makes his FG? What if the Bengals score on 1st and Goal from the 1 in Super Bowl 16? What if that Tennessee Titan receiver gained that 1 extra yard against the Rams? What if David Tyree doesn't make his catch? What if Bart Starr failed on his QB sneak in the Ice Bowl? What if Dwight Clark doesn't make his famous catch?

And most importantly, what if Leon Lett scored his TD against the Bills? Oh, wait, that probably wouldn't have affected the outcome of that game

 

[thewireman]

I would have to go with Peyton. Like others have said, he can run an offense all by himself. I know Tom Brady is good, its just the whole spy gate thing that makes me question if Brady knew what the defenses were doing so it made him look better than without all the spygate stuff