PFF Defensive Line rankings

[shabazz]

One of the glaring weaknesses our defense had was against quarterbacks getting way too many yards running up the gut because our pass rush and push only came from the outside

Hopes are high that Mazi and company will collapse the middle of that pocket and cut off escape routs for opposing quarterbacks…….contain Hurts running ability and hope for the best

 

[Motorola]

"Great."

LOL. You were waiting for PFF's D-Line rankings to worry about the Eagles?

(I must admit that I've always considered your avatar a clever troll job.)

Although his member name would have been better with "Yankees" in it instead of "Bama".

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Hargrave was not good vs. the run. It’s why the Eagles signed two veteran free agent interior defensive lineman. Davis will be expected to be the run stopper now. Carter will play about a third of the snaps. If Davis disappoints the Eagles DL won’t be top 10.

I understand the Hargrave criticism but he was a good defensive linemen and their best one. A big part in why they got 70 sacks. That’s not going to be easily replaced. For sure not by Davis. They have Milton Williams too who I liked coming into the draft but not sure of the impact he can have next season.

 

[Motorola]

The good news is that there is little connection between anything PFF does and real football. Who cares where they rank anything? They're nothing but a bunch of fantasy nerds.

The NFL offseason post-draft until training camps start - PFF goes overboard with ranking every category and niche about the league.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

OP has been trolling here all year, and is awful at it.

Cowboys live rent free in the Eagles fan consciousness. Imagine spending dozens of hours on another team’s board… pathetic.

It truly is pathetic. They claim we are t relevant but treat us like their SB every year. I have Eagles hate but I sure *** hell don’t celebrate a “Philly week” or go on their forum and pretend to be an Eagles fan while insulting their team. Really is sad.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

The good news is that there is little connection between anything PFF does and real football. Who cares where they rank anything? They're nothing but a bunch of fantasy nerds.

I feel like they've gotten better at predictions... but I agree, they USED to su k, and now, their stats are a smidge too biased based on history vs true projection, which isn't a scientific formula, but rather requires deep insight to identify what the NEXT great players and units will be

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

You only comment on eagles and Eagle related stuff… just stop

HA... utterly....WRONG. jerruh and Dak are 80% of my posts. I DO mention the Eagles SOME (as does almost everyone in here) because they're really good right now.

If the Redsk...errrrr......Commanders were really good right now instead of them, they'd be who I mention. They ARE in our division you know.

Also....the earth isn't flat just because a marble doesn't start rolling when you put it down, and we DID go to the Moon.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

As an Eagles fan on this board for a good year now you are probably happy… i never have seen a worse troll than you. You aren’t even good at it…

Carefull. You saw the post about personal insults. Keep it civil, or I'll have to revoke your privileges for a while until you learn.

 

[Creeper]

I am surprised the Commanders weren't #1. But I think they will be better than the Eagles this year. Brandon Graham is another year older. Cox is already in decline and on a 1 year deal. Hargrave is gone. On the other hand, Davis is young and in another year could be the new Fletcher Cox. I am not convinced Jalen Carter is going to be that great. Of course, he could grow up and turn into a beast too. I liked Milton Williams coming out of college and I still think he is going to be a tough guy to handle as he matures. Overall, looking at their young talent on the DL, they should be optimistic.

I will give the Eagles credit. They have a good strategy to build inside out. They use high draft picks on the lines and maintain them as a strength almost every year. But the entire NFC East has strong defensive lines, with the exception of the Cowboys. This is why the interior OL has to be so good for Dallas.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Eagles got some potential issues since one of their two best DTs is going downhill and the other left for the 49ers. The early draft picks the last couple of years really have to come through for them.

I think Cox reached the bottom of the hill a couple years ago (if that's who ur referring to).

I wouldn't want him on the cowboys.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Resident Eagle fan reminding us Eagles defensive line is good…..

I used to think calling any cowboy fan that doesn’t slobber over Jerry’s every decision a secret eagles fan was one of the worst things plaguing this board, but you guys may be right on this one.

If you go through his post history, every single thing he comments on or reacts to is negative toward the cowboys. If you didn’t see his name you’d have no indication he even liked the team. He’s ingratiated himself into the community and now he doesn’t need to pretend anymore. 10 pages of posts, 20 pages of posts all the same. The actual origin of his fandom is a mystery, but then Eagles-promoting posts are starting to become curious

 

[VaqueroTD]

After PFF listed their OLine rankings and crowned the Eagles #1, they've now come out with their DEFENSIVE Line rankings.

Guess whose #1 again.

The freaking Eagles.

Great.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-defensive-line-rankings-2023

Thanks for posting, I read the link on the offensive line ranking that was posted earlier, but this was what I really wanted to see. I already have a good handle on the offensive line, I’m just curious how other people view our defensife line, especially because it is more of a team situational rotation squad. Almost impossible to grade it with single player rankings like you can the OLine.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

I am surprised the Commanders weren't #1. But I think they will be better than the Eagles this year. Brandon Graham is another year older. Cox is already in decline and on a 1 year deal. Hargrave is gone. On the other hand, Davis is young and in another year could be the new Fletcher Cox. I am not convinced Jalen Carter is going to be that great. Of course, he could grow up and turn into a beast too. I liked Milton Williams coming out of college and I still think he is going to be a tough guy to handle as he matures. Overall, looking at their young talent on the DL, they should be optimistic.

I will give the Eagles credit. They have a good strategy to build inside out. They use high draft picks on the lines and maintain them as a strength almost every year. But the entire NFC East has strong defensive lines, with the exception of the Cowboys. This is why the interior OL has to be so good for Dallas.

Also consider that ironically the two players you didn’t mention, Sweat and Reddick, combined for the most sacks of any Edge duo in the league at 27.

 

[Creeper]

Also consider that ironically the two players you didn’t mention, Sweat and Reddick, combined for the most sacks of any Edge duo in the league at 27.

Reddick is a LB who will rush. Are they counting guys like that when grading DLs? Sweat had a good year but I think those guys benefit greatly from the guys in the middle. I am not taking anything away from teh Eagles DL. It is a really good one. But the Commanders have some good guys on the DL too.

 

[75boyz]

I remember the old Giants GM Ernie Accorsi. He said you can never have enough pass rushers. This was after drafting JPP while still having Strahan, Tuck and Osi. That comment stuck with me ever since.

And that d-line was key in defeating the Hoodie/GOAT combo twice in the SB.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I used to think calling any cowboy fan that doesn’t slobber over Jerry’s every decision a secret eagles fan was one of the worst things plaguing this board, but you guys may be right on this one.

If you go through his post history, every single thing he comments on or reacts to is negative toward the cowboys. If you didn’t see his name you’d have no indication he even liked the team. He’s ingratiated himself into the community and now he doesn’t need to pretend anymore. 10 pages of posts, 20 pages of posts all the same. The actual origin of his fandom is a mystery, but then Eagles-promoting posts are starting to become curious

It’s quite clear what he is. It’s really easy to tell who’s an Eagle fan and who’s not when you have more knowledge about the Eagles than the Cowboys. There are some posters who are invested in the Eagles because they are a rival. Then there’s a time in your post where it goes to fandom.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Reddick is a LB who will rush. Are they counting guys like that when grading DLs? Sweat had a good year but I think those guys benefit greatly from the guys in the middle. I am not taking anything away from teh Eagles DL. It is a really good one. But the Commanders have some good guys on the DL too.

Yeah he’s counted, Reddick is even more complicated than Micah because he’s almost exclusively an edge rusher. So he’s more or less a standup DE for us, a little different than an on-ball OLB in a 3-4 who rushes and drops back.

There were a few games last year where Reddick did drop back more than the minimal amount he usually does to confuse defenses, and they weren’t our best defensive performances because it messed up both our pass rush and our run D.

A big point to this is Reddick is not usually on the field with 2 DEs at the same time; he takes one of their spots. So Johnathan Gannon was credited with coming up with a 3-3-5 defense last year that was “revolutionary”, but it really was just a normal 4-2-5 nickel when you consider Reddick’s responsibilities were nearly identical to Sweat’s. He’s a LB on the depth chart just because there isn’t really a name for the specific position he plays. 4-3 OLB edge rusher? That’s what TJ Watt is, and he’s listed for Pittsburgh in the article because they’re really just alternative defensive ends (which is what Nolan Smith is probably going to be)

 

[gimmesix]

I think Cox reached the bottom of the hill a couple years ago (if that's who ur referring to).

I wouldn't want him on the cowboys.

Cox had seven sacks last year. He's a declining player, but probably still better (until proven differently) than the DTs we keep putting out there. Hopefully, that changes with Mazi.

 

[CowboyRoy]

All rankings right now are either based on last seasons performance or speculation on next seasons...either way neither will be the reality when the pads come on and the games start.

Eagles had the best lines last year and earned the rankings but 2023 is a new season

What? So the best Dline got better and that means to YOU that they will be worse?

Sure buddy.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Dallas can handle them with a healthy starting running back and a healthy offensive line.

Pork chop, pork chop, greasy, greasy, we can beat them 'uns, easy...easy!

YOu keep saying "healthy Offensive line". Just the fact that you have to premise EVERY comment about the Oline, with that injury line should tell you something about our line right there.